This, right here.At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter much since I think the weaksauce 3D Land/World type is the future 3D Mario we'll be getting. It's very risk adverse, so seems pretty Nintendo-like to me when it comes to their software nowadays.
This, right here.
I fear the next 3D Mario will be a slightly prettier 3D Land/World expansion pack. Hope Nintendo opens the floodgates on VC on NX and includes GameCube titles. Or do a few more remasters, including Sunshine if NX has analogue triggers.
NX would be dead on arrival, if one of their biggest launch games would be 3D World 2.
They have to deliver a revolutionary and big 3D Mario, just like Galaxy was in 2006. Nobody would buy a NX just to play a enhanced 3D World
Considering that 3D World is the best 3D Mario, yes I would buy an NX just to play that.
I don't know if this is thread worthy or not, But does any of you guys also have very low hopes for nintendo next console ?
I'm not talking about the console itself which we know nothing about except rumors and speculations, but it's more about the games.
I used to be a big nintendo fan, for me nintendo was playing with my brother.It was about dreamy adventures, some cool concepts over familiar games.
But the Wii U software output really disappointed me.Besides Bayonetta 2 none of their exclusives really clicked with me.
I know it's a personnal opinion and I know their not fundamentally bad games it's just that the nintendo magic isn't there anymore.
Did I grew too old for nintendo ?
I wanna know if some people experienced it too and if they are worried about the NX and the games it'll have?
That's your opinion. If 3D World 2 happens, there will be meltdowns everywhere and rightfully so. Trust me.
You're not alone. There are tons of people who think that way, including me.
Currently, this is one of the darkest timelines for Nintendo. But don't worry, NX is just around the corner, it will hopefully deliver
Exactly my thoughts too.
Nothing wrong with 3D World and a sequel is welcome but only after they release a new 3D Mario that is completely different.
3D World is great but its ni Mario 64 or Galaxy. Also i might be in the minority but i would love a Sunshine 2. Of something with a hub world leading to bigger levels to explore.Considering that 3D World is the best 3D Mario, yes I would buy an NX just to play that.
I would say it's the opposite. Galaxy and to a slightly lesser extent its sequel are closer to 64 and Sunshine than the 3D Land/World era of holding Y to run in a straight line without any real camera control, and on a strict time limit.
Meanwhile Galaxy keeps the mission structure of the first two in a lot of ways, which 3D Land and World entirely threw away.
At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter much since I think the weaksauce 3D Land/World type is the future 3D Mario we'll be getting. It's very risk adverse, so seems pretty Nintendo-like to me when it comes to their software nowadays.
This distinction is true in terms of categorizing the games based on functional aspects.
I would argue though that 64 and Sunshine belong in their own category for themselves, while Galaxy and 3D World are lumped together simply based on game feel. The former I feel are adventure games, especially given the open nature of the levels and the mission based star structure.
They're more like sandbox platformers too because you can tackle something in different ways whereas in the other two games the path is linear and usually there's only one "correct" solution to progress. This is compounded by the fact that powerups like the fire flower are time based in Galaxy, essentially this is made to prevent you from taking it to a section of the game that wasn't designed with it in mind. So the latter have levels that the designer intended for you to experience in a specific and predetermined way, while the SM64 style the gameplay is more freeform, you have much more power to choose your way through the game and how you experience it.
The only things correct here are the first-party ports and the ARM CPU, but the former has been confirmed by other sources and the latter is the only possibility other than NX not having an AMD-based APU.
They will be meltdowns ALWAYS with Marios, since thanbase is really splitted.That's your opinion. If 3D World 2 happens, there will be meltdowns everywhere and rightfully so. Trust me.
What if Mother 3 really gets localised on Wii U and they packaged the whole trilogy on disc for the NX at launch, that'd be so good. Mother 3 feels like a pipe dream.
They will be meltdowns ALWAYS with Marios, since thanbase is really splitted.
"Why is it not a Mario 64 spiritual sequel?"
"Why is it a Mario 64 spiritual sequel?"
I have faith, since the last "bad" (read, not fantastic) game was Sunshine.
To go to the topic. I'm really curious about the timing of the whole reveal.
There has been a lot of hints/rumors at it being finally localized this year.
Douvt it'll be in a package before a long time though, since it's still just virtual console.
I have faith, since the last "bad" (read, not fantastic) game was Sunshine.
Anyone been to 10K's twitter lately? He posted this rumor roundup..
https://nin10k.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/nx-rumor-roundup-megadump-year-1-lineup/
That's your opinion. If 3D World 2 happens, there will be meltdowns everywhere and rightfully so. Trust me.
You're not alone. There are tons of people who think that way, including me.
Currently, this is one of the darkest timelines for Nintendo. But don't worry, NX is just around the corner, it will hopefully deliver
Today, the day we finally get to know what Nintendo NX is!
@Veldhuis94YT No need. it's not for me exclusively. It's on the interwebz.
So let me get this strait....MS mentions investigating hardware revisions but doesn't want to move in small increments, wants to make big moves...given the limited information and lack of leaks, people assume 2017 and nothing in 2016....
Nintendo has been very cagey with NX and has now targeted 2017 for release of the new system with no real data out there.....
Now here comes the totally out of my ass dream....Nintendo partners with MS on hardware to be released in 2017. MS brings the more powerful hardware and third party relationships, Nintendo brings their IP....Everyone buys one because you can now buy one system with great multiplats, halo/forza/gears/Nintendo IP's. PROFIT!
Anyone been to 10K's twitter lately? He posted this rumor roundup..
https://nin10k.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/nx-rumor-roundup-megadump-year-1-lineup/
It's a joke based on the "NX will be revealed on may 9th" rumor.Forgive me if this was mentioned or is irrelevant, but a Mojang dev tweeted this earlier:
https://twitter.com/pgeuder/status/729566892353032192
The Mario Minecraft Mash-Up pack was announced shortly afterwards, so maybe this was just him trying to get our attention for that? Whatever the case is, the clock is ticking. He mentioned that this would be public in a later comment, so it's not just Mojang that gets to know, if we're to believe this.
https://twitter.com/pgeuder/status/729580494111821824
Apparently he isn't even trying to sound legit anymore. He should immediately block these "sources" instead of posting the horseshit they tell him.Anyone been to 10K's twitter lately? He posted this rumor roundup..
https://nin10k.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/nx-rumor-roundup-megadump-year-1-lineup/
Why is the FFVI remake rumor not plausible? Somebody mentioned this like a year or two ago on this website.
The not plausible thing is Nintendo spending money for a timed exclusive for it. Or Square rebooting Legacy of Kain.
Why wouldn't Nintendo just go multiplatform so their games can appear on a console with twice the sales and a vastly stronger Japanese market?
Considering that 3D World is the best 3D Mario, yes I would buy an NX just to play that.
New mario would be sync in time as they said.
Its not going to be another 3d world. The developer was keeping more open world in mind. Miyamotto also talked about galaxy 3 for next gen is a possibility...
I think it will have both (open world galaxy style. More the design like mario kart 8)
New mario would be sync in time as they said.
Its not going to be another 3d world. The developer was keeping more open world in mind. Miyamotto also talked about galaxy 3 for next gen is a possibility...
I think it will have both (open world galaxy style. More the design like mario kart 8)
I'm thinking there is a strong case for another 3D World type game as far as camera view, because same-screen multiplayer only works in this context and they probably value it highly. This gen's Nintendo has been all about sharing your experience with others and I think this factor will play an even bigger role on NX.
I don't get the hate for 3D World, the level design follows the same philosophy as Galaxy but without using any of the gravity effects. This was to be expected, I mean where do you even go after Galaxy? Multiplayer was the (indirect) answer, and it was a clever decision I think.
I also don't understand how people place 3D Marios in weird categories, Galaxy to me is a guided obstacle course (just like 3D World), while 64 is an exploration based sandbox platformer. The two are based on completely different design philosophies. Just think about the layout of the levels themselves, in Galaxy you have a sequence of mandatory obstacles where you have to complete part A in order to reach B, and when you put them together they are shaped like a stretched out corridor for the most part. In SM64 the shape of the levels are more like cubes and you can generally go to area B without going through A (i.e. non linear). It's hard for me to imagine when someone says the two games are similar.
I also don't understand how people place 3D Marios in weird categories, Galaxy to me is a guided obstacle course (just like 3D World), while 64 is an exploration based sandbox platformer. The two are based on completely different design philosophies. Just think about the layout of the levels themselves, in Galaxy you have a sequence of mandatory obstacles where you have to complete part A in order to reach B, and when you put them together they are shaped like a stretched out corridor for the most part. In SM64 the shape of the levels are more like cubes and you can generally go to area B without going through A (i.e. non linear). It's hard for me to imagine when someone says the two games are similar.
l don't get how you can say Galaxy is a precision platformer based on "obstacle courses" like 3D World. The only way they're similar is level progression, outside of that the things you do in the two games are completely different and l'm always amazed people can't seem to see this.
Take an "iconic" level like Gusty Garden: out of the dozen or so of planetoids that compose the Galaxy, only one has anything resembling precision platforming, ie a series of dexterity based challenges punished by death if you fail, the last part of the gravity scramble mission. Everything else is you running around planetoids where you can't fall off, solving simplistic environmental puzzles, having fun light interactions like riding wind currents using large flowers or turning a giant worm into a bridge between large apple planets and collecting stuff. Typical action-adventure type 3D Mario gameplay, just more streamlined than in 64.
And that's a level where level progression is similar to 3D World. What about the giant mountain in Freezeflame? Buoy Base? Deep Dark? How are any of these levels different from the sandbox-type courses of 64, and where are their equivalent in 3D World?
I really wish we could get a spiritual successor to Super Mario 64 or a full on remake. Still my favorite Mario game.
I believe in the Final Fantasy VI Remake @_@.
Nobody would buy a NX just to play a enhanced 3D World
Damn that's a long wait. What is the power in this thing supposed to be? It will be 3.5 years post PS4/XB1 launch by then. If it's only marginally better, then they might be pulling a Wii-U again...
Regardless, I'll be there Nintendo. There's nothing else like a Nintendo game.
So the issue what i had with 3d world is the level design. You can have better looking games on the hardware. Imaging this: