• Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!

Obama talks race and gender in Philly...

Status
Not open for further replies.
CoolTrick said:
Hey Amir0x?

This is why I think it's appropriate to play the victim card here. This is the kind of reality altering that goes on here amongst the rabid Obama fans.
And how often have the insults been levied your way without you first insulting someone else?

Get over it for fucks sake.

This is the fucking internet. You either deal with others, or you have no place here. And dealing isn't what you're doing right now, it's called bitching.
 
And how often have the insults been levied your way without you first insulting someone else?

:lol

Quite a number of times.


And I'm oh so more than happy to deal with the shit here. I don't back down from shit. But then ya can't bitch how CoolTrick and CoolTrick alone is the only one flaming people.
 
ComputerNerd said:
Both Democrats will raise the capital gains tax. Not sure to what % though. They'll also raise the dividend tax, and the death tax.

All 3 of which will severely hurt me financially. And I'm middle class! If they really wanted to help the middle class, they'd let those taxes remain low.

You seriously have to be the most brainwashed person that posts on GAF. No one in the middle class pays estate taxes. Only the top 99.7%.

And do you realize that you never really got a tax cut? Since they were not matching spending cuts, you still owe though taxes . . . but now with interest too.
 
Damn LTTP awesome speech party. As a white dude that grew up not terribly wealthy or privileged, the speech really hit home. But I loved Obama already.

I think a guy on CNN said it best. When Obama talks its like he is talking to you as an adult, other candidates seem like they are talking to children when they speak.

Really I didn't even think that much of the whole 'controversy' in the 1st place. I know I could never be a politician... I have associated with some real nutjobs!
 
CoolTrick said:
:lol

Quite a number of times.


And I'm oh so more than happy to deal with the shit here. I don't back down from shit. But then ya can't bitch how CoolTrick and CoolTrick alone is the only one flaming people.
Hey, did you ever respond to all the people who pointed out you were wrong about post 2/12 superdelegate gains? It looks like Obama is +61 since 2/12.

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/superdelegate-history-tracker.html
 
CoolTrick said:
:lol

Quite a number of times.


And I'm oh so more than happy to deal with the shit here. I don't back down from shit. But then ya can't bitch how CoolTrick and CoolTrick alone is the only one flaming people.

You're so badass. Wow.
 
CoolTrick said:
:lol

Quite a number of times.


And I'm oh so more than happy to deal with the shit here. I don't back down from shit. But then ya can't bitch how CoolTrick and CoolTrick alone is the only one flaming people.
No you play offended and hide behind mods.

You don't get the shit that you do because you're a Hillary fan. You get it because your a pompous self indulgent jackass that gets on others nerves. Feigning fealty to your lord Hillary, and insulting anyone that doesn't share your outlook.

You rally behind the idea that a cult is attacking you, when those attacks are limited to five maybe six people. All the while belittling the intellect of those that don't share your views.

Make no mistake, you're your own worst enemy here. Not any perceived cult.
 
siamesedreamer said:
Yeah, sure...whatever you say.

A married couple would have to make UNDER $32,000 a year to stay within that bracket.
Wait a minute, your siren call has always been that most people don't pay ANY taxes at all!
 
Innotech said:
One reason I wont vote for Obama is BECAUSE he insists on talking about race. Politicians in general focus on this WAY too much. Its pointless and stupid and out of place in an era where professional athletes and celebrities and music stars are all different races and backgrounds.
lol WHAT
 
It has been extremely interesting reading this thread. It is shocking how out of touch I am. I had no idea this many people still held such strong feelings on race. I don't remember race being a major issue in a national election since I've been following politics (1996). The topic of race was barely mentioned in 2000 and I don't remember it ever being mentioned in 2004. Leading into this I had never seen race appear on any poll of "most important issues" to voters (versus favorites like the economy, spending, the war, health care). Now race seems to be the most important issue to Obama supporters.


One thing I think I can say for sure: this speech has done more to make race a factor in this election than anything that came before it.
 
Tom_Cody said:
It has been extremely interesting reading this thread. It is shocking how out of touch I am. I had no idea this many people still held such strong feelings on race. I don't remember race being a major issue in a national election since I've been following politics (1996). The topic of race was barely mentioned in 2000 and I don't remember it ever being mentioned in 2004. Leading into this I had never seen race appear on any poll of "most important issues" to voters (versus favorites like the economy, spending, the war, health care). Now race seems to be the most important issue to Obama supporters.
Well, get ready...

GOP sees Rev. Wright as pathway to victory
 
capt.c9d3c3439dc0486487f1841195163ff0.aptopix_obama_2008_paab110.jpg
 
MightyHedgehog said:
This is what pisses me off about this. While people can chase their tails on the probably eternal issues related to race & gender, the person who's least fit for the job (IMO) can make off with the win in November. Self-inflicted 'divide and conquer' is something that seems to most fuck Dems over on a regular basis. Race, gender, and their relations issues are something that all three candidates can affect to a limited degree, but we're here supposed to be focusing on who's a better person for the job to steer us out of the path of the real shitstorm created over the last ten years and not an age-old problem that can only really be changed by the citizenry of America. There's no law that can fix the simple-minded thinking of those so hung up on race, sex, sexual orientation, and religious leanings.
The better person for the job of steering us out of the path of the real shitstorm we created for ourselves over the last ten years is the kind of person who understands that the fundamental issues at the heart of race/gender conflicts and tension are the very same issues fueling the shitstorm we're in. Someone who understands that resentment and divisiveness builds and hardens over time, understands that you can't just crack such hardened resolve, you have to dissolve it slowly through acknowledging that no one person or group is to blame and that no one in a conflict is truly blameless.

Race/gender issues don't come about specifically because of race or gender. They occur because we have a fundamental tendency to segregate ourselves, categorize and stereotype across whatever differences we perceive amongst ourselves. It's at the heart of why we stand at odds with many other factions of our world in the first place.

Getting into shitstorms is far easier than staying out of them. The better person for the job is the person who demonstrates an absolute clarity for why they occur in the first place, like Obama did yesterday in his speech. It should never be viewed as a mistake to speak as insightfully and candidly as he did yesterday. Winning the election isn't worth sacrificing the kind of integrity and principles that Obama has demonstrated he stands for.
 
i was pretty much going to vote for Obama anyway, but after reading that speech there's no way i CAN'T vote for him. Incredible. God he needs to be our President.
 
i'm still not seeing how what obama's pastor said was any worse than mccain's pastor saying islam should be destroyed.


i guess it is alright to criticize are "foreign" but not our own country.
 
Look by far the most positive thing about this speech for me (outsider Canadian commenting here) is that Obama's explanation for the reason that he won't disown his former pastor even though it would be the safest political move.

He could no more disown his pastor than disown the entire black community. This is the key point right there.

The angry incidenary comments made by Wright aren't one off loony outbursts, they're commonly held beliefs. And that makes all the difference A blanket disownment is to refuse to acknowledge this and that is the standard operating procedure in politics that has allowed these feelings to be ignored and *fester* for so long. The better approach is to

1. Acknowledge the sentiments. (Which Obama does)
2. Understand where they are coming from (Which Obama articulated perfectly)
3. Begin to move on by making the point that *every* community feels legitmately hard done by and that the only way to really make a difference is if different communties started watching out for each other instead of retreating into a zero sum mentality.

I'm freaking paraphrasing his damn speech here, I've always held to point #1 (acknowledge widespread sentiment as worthy of discussion even if you don't agree with it) and to see a politician actually SAY IT is freaking spectacular. Hell the only way that any of these 3 points can be advanced in the general population is through *leadership* and what the hell do you know there's a Leader standing right there who could bring about a widespread change in mentality.

Obama has done the gutsy thing here by forwarding a nuanced and principled stand instead of simple useless bromides. Vote him in the Primary and vote him in as your President.
 
Innotech said:


Inno you are so unbelievably wrong I don't even know where to begin. Obama does NOT insist on talking about race. In fact, since this whole thing began, he has tried to avoid talking about it as much as possible.
 
I noticed the reaction to this on good morning america and the today show weren't well....as good as I would like.

They basically said those who already love obama would react well to it, those upset about the wright comments and blue collar voters likely won't be affected by it.
 
Dark Octave said:
Every American has people like this in their lives, both black and white (and everything else). You can't disown people you love from your life just because of their background views.

Bottom line, Obama has never said, or even been reported to had said anything racial, so why is he on trial about this? For those of you crying for blood and blowing this out of proportion, next time your long term friend, parent, or sibling, says something racial about any group, drop them from your life like you expect Obama to. If you can't, shut the hell up about this issue already.

This is the rational argument. There's no place for it in politics.
 
Cheebs said:
I noticed the reaction to this on good morning america and the today show weren't well....as good as I would like.

They basically said those who already love obama would react well to it, those upset about the wright comments and blue collar voters likely won't be affected by it.

Uh huh.. I don't see how see anyone couldn't be impressed with that speech. They either don't give a damn about what the man is saying or aren't being honest. That is one of the best speeches regarding race in this Country I've ever heard.

He spoke about the situation as honestly as it could be talked about from both sides of the aisle. I don't see how anyone whether you are an Obama supporter or not could not have a great deal of respect or come away with a positive impression of the man after that speech?

It doesn't matter what "Good morning America" or "The today show" think the speech was fantastic and you can tell it came from the heart.

njp here is the honest truth. The ones who are now blowing it out of proportion are the ones that helped bring it about. They were trying their best to find a way to bring race into this entire thing and now they've found that way.
 
Cheebs said:
I noticed the reaction to this on good morning america and the today show weren't well....as good as I would like.

They basically said those who already love obama would react well to it, those upset about the wright comments and blue collar voters likely won't be affected by it.
They've got the excuse they've been hoping for all this time. Now they're going to blow it out of proportion and ride it out no matter how weak it is. This country still has a lot of growing up to do.
 
Every American has people like this in their lives, both black and white (and everything else). You can't disown people you love from your life just because of their background views.

Bottom line, Obama has never said, or even been reported to had said anything racial, so why is he on trial about this? For those of you crying for blood and blowing this out of proportion, next time your long term friend, parent, or sibling, says something racial about any group, drop them from your life like you expect Obama to. If you can't, shut the hell up about this issue already.


I agree 100%

Do people really think the other candidates don't know ANYONE with prejudiced views. Get fucking real!
 
CowboyAstronaut said:
Inno you are so unbelievably wrong I don't even know where to begin. Obama does NOT insist on talking about race. In fact, since this whole thing began, he has tried to avoid talking about it as much as possible.

yeah, I think that's the most frustrating responses I've seen to this speech. He initially tries to talk about realizing that we are all Americans with common issues and we should work together to solve our problems - "Oh, he's all speech no solutions. All he talks about is hope!"

Then the past month or so has been spent twisting comments and pictures to paint him (and others close to him) as some covert muslim black panther kill whitey terrorist American hater affirmative action presidential candidate, and people just say "oh well, that's politics!"

So he gives a calm, straightforward speech on race in our country to try to help clarify a lot of issues in our country and now it's all "Why does he need to talk about race?? God can't we just move on! I wish he would just get over it and talk about something else!"

sheesh
 
siamesedreamer said:
Yeah, sure...whatever you say.

A married couple would have to make UNDER $32,000 a year to stay within that bracket.

That is married filing seperately, so in that case, each person can make 32K a year in adjusted income. Married filing joinly can make over 62K dollars gross adjusted. That means, after 401K deductions, health insurance, anything else deductible (or the standard deduction)..

so once again, you dont know what you are complaining about.
 
Dark Octave said:
They've got the excuse they've been hoping for all this time. Now they're going to blow it out of proportion and ride it out no matter how weak it is. This country still has a lot of growing up to do.

Seriously it's quite sad to be honest.
 
Its unfortunate about this whole Obama/Pastor thing, but I can't say I'm surprised. I knew deep down that SOMETHING outside of the actual campaign would likely come up and seriously hurt his chances at the nomination, he is just too good for this country to ever actually be President.

Its sad, though. My Dad said that like always 'we' would screw one of our own out of the Presidency, and it turned out to be that way. I swear, we are the only race that continually fuck each other over.

:(
 
For months, Republican party officials have watched with increasing trepidation as Barack Obama has shattered fundraising records, packed arena after arena with shrieking fans and pulled in significant Republican and independent votes.

Now, with the emergence of the notorious video portraying Rev. Jeremiah Wright damning the country, criticizing Israel, faulting U.S. policy for the attacks of Sept. 11 and generally lashing out against white America, GOP strategists believe they’ve finally found an antidote to Obamamania.

In their view, the inflammatory sermons by Obama’s pastor offer the party a pathway to victory if Obama emerges as the Democratic nominee. Not only will the video clips enable some elements of the party to define him as unpatriotic, they will also serve as a powerful motivating force for the conservative base.

In fact, the video trove has convinced some that, after months of praying for Hillary Clinton and the automatic enmity which she arouses, that they may actually have easier prey.

“For the first time, some Republicans are rethinking Hillary as their first choice,” said Alex Castellanos, a veteran media consultant who recently worked for Mitt Romney’s campaign.

Even Obama’s much-lauded Tuesday speech, which detailed his relationship with his church and focused on the issue of racial reconciliation, failed to shake the notion that Republicans had been given a rare political gift.

“It was a speech written to mau-mau the New York Times editorial board, the network production people and the media into submission. Beautifully calibrated but deeply dishonest,” said GOP media consultant Rick Wilson, who crafted the ad in 2002 tying then-Sen. Max Cleland to Osama bin Laden. “Not good enough.”

Until now, questions about Obama’s allegiance to country had been largely confined to the fever swamps of the Internet and e-mail chains. They took the form of dark whispers about the greater meaning of Obama’s failure to put his hand over his heart during one national anthem, his decision not to wear an American flag lapel pin and, at their most toxic, the outright lie that he’s a Muslim or some sort of Manchurian candidate.

With Michelle Obama’s comments last month that she was, thanks to her husband’s candidacy, for the first time “really proud of [her country],” the topic entered the more mainstream elements of the conservative conversation, ricocheting across talk radio, cable news and blogs.

“All the sudden you’ve got two dots and two dots make a line,” said Castellanos. “You start getting some sense of who he is and it’s not the Obama you thought – he’s not the Tiger Woods of politics.”

But if Michelle Obama’s gaffe caused some ripples in the right-wing pond, the Wright videos have detonated the equivalent of a daisy cutter on the conservative landscape, awakening an otherwise dispirited party base.

“I usually get three or four emails a week on Obama,” said Michigan Republican chairman Saul Anuzis Monday. “Today I received more than 10 – all of them on his minister.”

Among the e-mails Anuzis received was a link to a mash-up video splicing together Wright’s most extreme comments, Michelle Obama’s statement, footage of Obama not putting his hand over his heart during the anthem at a political event and images of Malcolm X and the two black Olympians in 1968 who raised their fists in the “black power” salute set to the iconic rap song by Public Enemy “Fight the Power.”

The video, titled “Is Obama Wright,” is described as being produced by something called “NHaleMedia,” apparently just a dummy Web site set up to produce anonymous and home-made videos.

In effect, the pastor has done what many on the right, quivering even with the anonymity afforded by the online era, had hesitated over until now—thrust highly delicate matters of patriotism and race into the political dialogue.

“It opens up an entire new vein,” said Republican consultant Paul Wilson.

Just as with John Kerry and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth in 2004, Republican strategists view the Wright flap as deeply damaging to Obama because it strikes at the message, or set of principles, at the heart of his candidacy.

In Obama’s case, the core of his appeal has been that he transcends race and is more inclined toward conciliation than combat.

“He wants the authentic black image but he also wants to keep all his safe, suburban Obamacans in line,” said Rick Wilson. “Well, you can’t have both – they’re mutually exclusive.”

“This is a guy who associates with some real haters,” he added.


Perhaps most damaging for Obama, his opponents now have the powerful video to make that case.

“It’s harder for people to say it’s taken out of context because these are Wright’s own words,” noted Chris LaCivita, the Republican strategist who helped craft the Swift Boat commercials against Kerry that employed the use of their target’s own language when he returned from Vietnam and returned his medals. “You let people draw their own conclusions.”

“You don’t have to say that he’s unpatriotic, you don’t question his patriotism,” he added. “Because I guaran-damn-tee you that with that footage you don’t have to say it.”

Asked if they would say it or even suggest it, a spokesman for John McCain indicated that the GOP candidate would not.

“There are profound differences on enormously important issues that will affect the future of the country,” said McCain adviser Steve Schmidt. “He’s said he intends to campaign on those issues.”


McCain’s hesitance to go anywhere near the Wright videos speaks to just how explosive they could be among voters – but also to his awareness of the potential for a backlash.

“He needs to stay away from it,” said Paul Wilson of McCain. “It’s poison.”

But thanks to the power of new media forces – talk radio, cable TV and blogs – to drive a storyline, McCain’s job could easily be done for him.

“The best thing the GOP can do is stay out of it,” suggested Jim Dyke, a former RNC communications chief who was a key figure in the behind-the-scenes takedown of Kerry in ’04. “Why risk getting shot by running into the middle of a circular firing squad?”


And to interfere may obscure the attack, added Castellanos. “Leave it alone – the last thing you want is to make it a partisan Republican attack. It’s much more credible on its own.”

Yet some conservatives aren’t content to let the video played out organically, spread via “did-you-see-this?” e-mails—especially if it’s revealed that Obama was in fact in the church when Wright delivered some of his more incendiary remarks. The temptation to craft an ad may be overwhelming.

“Obama knows that if somebody puts him in church on some day that Wright said some crazy [stuff] like white people injected blacks with AIDS he’s in a world of hurt,” said Rick Wilson. “I would eat this up like cake.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9116.html
 
Flo_Evans said:
Really I don't see what the big deal is. Hell to me any pastor is spewing bullshit I don't agree with on a daily basis.

Its not really that big of a deal. Its not as if this guy was running a David Koresh-esque religious militia which was hell-bent on bring down the government, and Obama supported and funded the movement. But with the way the Clinton campaign has conducted themselves it was a certainty that they & the media would completely blow this out of proportion .
 
PhoenixDark said:
wow. it's almost like I said this exact same thing already in this thread. :lol but I'm just CRAZY BATSHIT INSANE LOL


anyways, I love to hear white people denying that racism exists. It's like rich people who say there's no such thing as poor people. Just because you don't see it, or more likely are never exposed to it, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist on an almost systemic level.
 
Nameless said:
Its not really that big of a deal. Its not as if this guy was running a David Koresh-esque religious militia which was hell-bent on bring down the government, and Obama supported and funded the movement. But with the way the Clinton campaign has conducted themselves it was a certainty that they & the media would completely blow this out of proportion .
Come on now, it's a big deal. Tiger Woods has certainly taught us that White America is ready to embrace a black man as the tops in a field, but only if he's not overtly "black". Jeremiah Wright qualifies as overtly black, I'm afraid. I think he's probably done for now, not in the primaries but in the general. Then again, maybe the economy will get so shitty that people will actually be smart, but I doubt it. BLACK FOLKS GETTIN' ANGRY SCARE WHITEY!
 
My take after a day of mulling:

When he said he cannot disown his pastor as he cannot disown the black community or his grandmother was the gist of his explanation.

The racial anger, prejudice and divide that his pastor, the black community, or some whites like his grandmother show are all part of america.

To those who say Obama should just cut ties with his pastor - should he cut his ties with the black community as well? Should he cut his ties with his grandmother as well? But most importantly, should he cut his ties with America? Since this country is full of imperfect people.
 
whytemyke said:
wow. it's almost like I said this exact same thing already in this thread. :lol but I'm just CRAZY BATSHIT INSANE LOL


anyways, I love to hear white people denying that racism exists. It's like rich people who say there's no such thing as poor people. Just because you don't see it, or more likely are never exposed to it, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist on an almost systemic level.

Obama could probably lose the election over this, and it would be his fault entirely. People here don't seem to realize how huge this story is, and have instead dismissed reality while only thinking about the short term goal: beating Hillary/getting the nomination. We all know Obama is going to get the nomination barring some unforeseen event - that's not the issue. The issue is that this video as well as many other Obama actions have created a pattern of questionable comments for the GOP to play off over and over again.

You can splurgh over his great speech all you want, but it will be forgotten in October, replaced in the minds of American's by a barrage of negative ads featuring Wright. And if it is ever proven that Obama was in attendance during any of Wright's more incendiary sermons, game over.
 
Triumph said:
Come on now, it's a big deal. Tiger Woods has certainly taught us that White America is ready to embrace a black man as the tops in a field, but only if he's not overtly "black". Jeremiah Wright qualifies as overtly black, I'm afraid. I think he's probably done for now, not in the primaries but in the general. Then again, maybe the economy will get so shitty that people will actually be smart, but I doubt it. BLACK FOLKS GETTIN' ANGRY SCARE WHITEY!

I think you might be right. His speech was fantastic, but the media treatment nowadays is much friendlier to 10 seconds soundbites of Wright ranting than a 30 minutes Obama speech. I'm convinced that less than 10% of the people who were turned off Obama by Wright will know more about that speech than the "Obama denounces but doesn't disown" headlines.

Sad but true, the modern world is a world of sheep.
 
whytemyke said:
anyways, I love to hear white people denying that racism exists. It's like rich people who say there's no such thing as poor people. Just because you don't see it, or more likely are never exposed to it, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist on an almost systemic level.

Yeah, let's say it's about the image. Racism has the image of not existing anymore because of the way the media and public opinion controls the issue. You see some accident happening and think "I thought we were over this?".

Now the question is: Who can really tell whether racism is over or not? What decides that? Your personal experiences? Statistics? I think the image is a good indicator for something as fuzzy as racism. In most places you have to uphold the image of being non-racist. Being racist is a taboo and will get you fired. Therefore the image dictates that it's over.
 
Hollywood Duo said:
Hmm, this is a modern development?

Somewhat. Before people were sheep because they had no way to verify information and had to rely on the media. Nowadays everyone can find sources, opinions and counter opinions on the Internet and on the myriad of cable channels with a different bias but in the end they don't and remain ignorant by choice.

Not new, not surprising but still pretty sad.
 
Oh my god, I can't believe that guy said "mau mau."

I'm still doubting the GOP's ability to pull this off. I mean, sure, they're excited to get some race-baiting sound bites. Of course they are. But the reason they're so excited is because their GE campaign is not going to be about getting people to the polls to vote for McCain (as a lot of their base doesn't really want to do that), but instead about getting people to the polls to vote against the Dem candidate.

I mean, what is this Manchurian candidate premise about, anyway? Why would someone who hates America run for President? So they could have a high-stress job fighting Congress every day and... I dunno, what? Selling state secrets to...African-Americans? I mean I just don't get this. The only way this concept works is if enough voters are afraid enough to vote for a candidate they dislike in order to keep a black guy out of the Oval Office. There are lots of people who support McCain because of his issues, and there are plenty of people who will vote for the hawk candidate no matter what, but there aren't enough of those guys to win the GE.

I certainly don't want to get overconfident, because that's deadly. And I have a greater responsibility this year--last election I was registered in MA, this election I will be registered in.... FLORIDA...! I just don't think it's time to hit the panic button yet.

Also, in those great days to come when I am a History teacher, some time at the end of the year I am going to make all my students fill out tax returns so they can get a clue as to how tax law works. Not understanding tax law is one thing; voting on your misunderstanding is tragic.
 
PhoenixDark said:
Obama could probably lose the election over this, and it would be his fault entirely. People here don't seem to realize how huge this story is, and have instead dismissed reality while only thinking about the short term goal: beating Hillary/getting the nomination. We all know Obama is going to get the nomination barring some unforeseen event - that's not the issue. The issue is that this video as well as many other Obama actions have created a pattern of questionable comments for the GOP to play off over and over again.

You can splurgh over his great speech all you want, but it will be forgotten in October, replaced in the minds of American's by a barrage of negative ads featuring Wright. And if it is ever proven that Obama was in attendance during any of Wright's more incendiary sermons, game over.

on the other hand, on the political level he has the absolute high ground here. Played right, he's set up to turn the arguments of black racism and a lack of patriotism on their head. The ones who would use Wright to divide us are the ones who are preventing Unity in america.

Compare that to the swift boat veterans, despite outright lying, Kerry could only combat what they said, since his Vietnam war experience was a big part of his canidacy. He couldn't transcend Vietnam, because he was still stuck in it.

Obama has the potential to transcend the race issue here, it's not going to be easy, but things like this give me a lot of hope,

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23695639/page/2/

“Our town is composed of approximately 90 percent Native Alaskan. We like "our" white people, but seriously, as soon as they set foot on our land they do adopt a particular attitude of superiority. They don't make an effort to associate with us; they won't invite us to their residences for socialization — it's almost as though they are afraid of us! They certainly do not treat us as equals. So this is kind of a sore subject with me. I have many friends who are white whose friendship was "made" elsewhere, and have all treated me with respect, courteously, deferentially, etc. But when the white teachers or medical staff come here as temporary residents, they don't do very well at all. So I tend to resent all of them and distance myself from them all. So, I am helping to perpetuate this cycle of un-socializing with the whites here.”
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom