We will have other VR solutions at that pointIt's all fun and games right now, but you can bet that somewhere down the line , facebook will want control of their investment.
We will have other VR solutions at that pointIt's all fun and games right now, but you can bet that somewhere down the line , facebook will want control of their investment.
Well they are a tech company. But they behave more like a venture capitalist investment firm than a tech company these days. Rather than innovate and improve, they just spend massive amounts of money buying up other firms. Instagram, WhatsApp, Oculus now. They remind me of AOL in a sense. This bubble will end too.
Facebook has been bleeding users in the West, no way to capitalize, and it's intrusive ads have turned a lot of people off.
It's funny how crowd funding for Oculus allowed them to now be bought by Facebook. Can't wait for CliffyB and his doublespeak about how this is a good thing too.
Q I can support this as a great step forward to a variety of VR experiences, not just gaming VR.
But I have one request: Don't put Facebook updates in my HUD
A Deal!
I agree with the posts in this thread that stated that most of us would have sold out if we were in his shoes. He's pretty much set for life. Most people have price tags on their heads.
There is absolutely no way he does, and even if he did I'd want to see the proof in writing for all these "I'll tell you exactly what you want to hear right now!" promises.Does he even has the final say on this?
Does he even has the final say on this?
What is facebooks endgame here?it
[Update: As for exactly how Facebook will monetize Oculus, CEO Mark Zuckerberg said on the call to investors, "We're clearly not a hardware company. We're not going to try to make a profit off of the hardware long-term...but if we can make this a network where people are communicating, and buying virtual goods, and there might be ads down the line...thats where the business could come from."]
We're not going to try to make a profit off of the hardware long-term...but if we can make this a network where people are communicating, and buying virtual goods, and there might be ads down the line...that’s where the business could come from
Marvel flourished under Disney, because Disney knows including Mickey Mouse in Avengers won't make Mickey Mouse cool right now.Recode said:Its a little like deciding to be Disney, said one source, owning all the good content brands. If Facebook is Disney (by the way, its COO, Sheryl Sandberg, is on the entertainment giants board), then Instagram is the Disney Channel (the kids love it!) and WhatsApp is ESPN (everyone loves it!).
What is facebooks endgame here?
At best VR could be the next TV. I cannot believe in the long term they want to make money selling hardware. They are far better positioned to sell services or push ads through it
1) We can make custom hardware, not rely on the scraps of the mobile phone industry. That is insanely expensive, think hundreds of millions of dollars. More news soon.
3) We can make huge investments in content. More news soon.
We will have other VR solutions at that point
No. He doesn't own the company or have a final say in anything. You lose that when you sell. If Facebook really, really wants to do something they will just bulldoze their way to that decision, even if it means firing Luckey.
Again, you're speaking as if you're privy to the details of an agreement that I don't believe are public.
Exactly.If all those answers end up being true in the long term then Facebook spent a bunch of money for no reason.
Facebook didn't spend that money for no reason.
BUSINESS AS USUAL
Again, you're speaking as if you're privy to the details of an agreement that I don't believe are public.
He is getting torn into, god damn.
Again, you're speaking as if you're privy to the details of an agreement that I don't believe are public.
Q Cut the PR.
Most of us will not agree with it.
Most of us will see it as a sell-out.
You had our trust. Now you will have to regain it.
A I understand that, and I am confident that I will.
So Palmer Luckey is already being contradicted by his new boss.
People want him to do a PR spin...but then will blame him for doing a PR spin? Nobody will give him the benefit of the doubt. This seems completely fucked.
So Facebook makes it's own platform that also makes use of the Rift? Why does this mean it will be locked out from being used for everything else?
People say this a lot, but in purely hardware terms, good VR is good VR. It doesn't change depending on what it is used for. It's not like e.g. TVs where you can build features which benefit watching movies but are actually detrimental to gaming.
So yeah, I don't like this, but I don't think it will jeopardize the hardware quality, at least over the next few years.
So Palmer Luckey is already being contradicted by his new boss.
Sony is in and soon other companies will be too, not going to be too much longer until we see another VR display for PC and unlike directx/open go its not going to take rewriting massive lines of code to support other devices.why do you assume it's that simple? it's not that simple. it's never that simple
this is like saying people could just ditch directx today and switch to opengl if something goes south with microsoft. and that's with opengl actually being a decent, mature alternative
another example would be if everyone suddenly wanted to not have games on steam anymore for whatever reason
once everyone is committed to this thing, it's not a matter of just flipping a switch. and i'm pretty sure all the people working on facebook aren't retarded. they realize they're gonna need to lock in people, not suddenly, but slowly and surely
Don't you know, people only deal in absolutes here. You'll need to watch three 90 second ads before you're allowed to even put the Rift on your head.Ads can exist within the realm of virtual markets that are independent of the hardware itself.
That and being able to get better manufacturing is the only thing which make me think it *might* be a good thing that they were brought.A We have not gotten into all the details yet, but a lot of the news is coming. The key points:
1) We can make custom hardware, not rely on the scraps of the mobile phone industry. That is insanely expensive, think hundreds of millions of dollars. More news soon.