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Official July 2008 NPD Results Thread
- Thread starter sonycowboy
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doicare said:
Doesn't really matter. MGS4 sold close to 1 Million with the bundle last month. Most likely less than 200k this month with the bundle. It's big drop no matter how you slice and dice it. But then again, the Wii and the DS only sell because the childrens are on holidays.
Souldriver
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Coming from where the PS3 is coming, I would call that a solid month.dreamer3kx said:
Also worth considering is that the PS3 is still fairly expensive (so is the 360 for that matter), and the console is in second/third place (or better: not this gens winner). By these terms it's doing really well, since looking back at the GC and Xbox sales, I don't think they averaged above 200k in slow months like these. If I recall correctly the GC had sub-100k months fairly often.
Revelations
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Huh? Done? Jumping the gun a bit arn't we...WrikaWrek said:
MikeE21286
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yeah, that's a good point.....but The 360 did have a price dropStumpokapow said:
or clearance
wayward archer
Member
WrikaWrek said:
Prices are still too high.
Wii sports isn't the sole reason people are buying wii's like crazy. It's sitting at a good price too.
DeaconKnowledge
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Ysiadmihi said:
While I agree, it's foolish to think that EA will gimp sequels just for the hell of it, which is what people in this thread are implying.
Also, Rock Band's gimping isn't as bad as it's being made out to be. The removal of Online World Tour is upsetting, but DLC and create a player are only marginal omissions.
donkey show
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Mama Robotnik, you rule. Please make a Sony one now. 
Revelations
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MikeE21286 said:
It was actually suppose to be a joke. But they did it wrong. :lol
ratcliffja
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The removal of DLC is a minor omission? That is THE biggest selling point of Rock Band. I almost never play the disc-based songs anymore, but I continue to play the game every week.
Stoney Mason
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sionyboy said:
so true
rollingstart
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What game came out in July, or is coming out in August that would get people to buy a 360? Too Human sure ain't moving consoles. Gears 2 will be a beast.
Souldriver
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Considering Nintendo's relationship with third parties (and the false(?) perceptions surrounding it), I think the Wii userbase better be glad with the good Rock Band Sales. Because imho it goes like thisYsiadmihi said:
Rock Band sells well --> Sequel comes out, may or may not be average again.
Rock Band sells bad --> See, third parties don't sell on Wii, NO sequel.
BLaZiN PRopHeT
Member
any numbers on MGS4?
also why not wait until this fall to say if the 360 is done or not?
also why not wait until this fall to say if the 360 is done or not?
NekoFever
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Microsoft needs to do a real fucking price drop. We haven't had a 'real' one since the console came out, which is pushing three years ago. It's all very well trumpeting that you haven't been scared into dropping the price like a stone and talking about how you're 'adding value', but when you've clearly exhausted the people who are willing to pay $300+, which is not a mass-market price, it's time to drop it.
I appreciate that the 360 is well out in front and profitable (I think?) and the PS3 isn't going to catch it any time soon, but it becomes a problem when people perceive your machine as being waning and the competitor's as being on the upswing. It's not good to be doing these numbers off the back of a strong E3 and a
price drop.
I appreciate that the 360 is well out in front and profitable (I think?) and the PS3 isn't going to catch it any time soon, but it becomes a problem when people perceive your machine as being waning and the competitor's as being on the upswing. It's not good to be doing these numbers off the back of a strong E3 and a
sort of
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Mama became the saving grace of the NPD threads after April came and went by. :lol
I genuinely don't think either MS or Sony can afford a "real" price drop any time soon. I think MS is closer to being able to afford it, and may bite the bullet and do it this holiday. Sony I'm more skeptical of: I think we'll get a wealth of value bundles including some high quality bundle games, and we'll get the SKU shift to 399, but I don't think we'll see a 349 or 299 PS3 soon.
In other words, this isn't like last generation (or the generations before it), where price drops can be done at will whenever the parent company deems it strategically viable. This generation Sony and Microsoft have bled so much money right out of the gate that they essentially emptied both barrels within 12 months of the respective system's release. It'll be some time before they can reload, and price drops will come when they are remotely feasible on a financial level, not when it seems like it would really put the screws on the competitors.
In other words, this isn't like last generation (or the generations before it), where price drops can be done at will whenever the parent company deems it strategically viable. This generation Sony and Microsoft have bled so much money right out of the gate that they essentially emptied both barrels within 12 months of the respective system's release. It'll be some time before they can reload, and price drops will come when they are remotely feasible on a financial level, not when it seems like it would really put the screws on the competitors.
Private Hoffman
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DeaconKnowledge said:
The 80 GB is a very popular model right now, why wouldn't it do roughly half? Given that the 40 GB stock is drying up, my ~50% estimate is probably low balling the MGS4 bundle figures.
Going from 1 million to about 200k is pretty expected for this sort of title. It's not a casual game, and it certainly doesn't have long legs like some multiplayer shooter titles for the online play.
MikeE21286 said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330539
Anyways, I had my NPD fix. Time for bed. Go on gentlemen.
Shipptnotsold
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um, sonycowboy...
where's FFIV...!!?
after 2 weeks still less than 147k...!?
where's FFIV...!!?
after 2 weeks still less than 147k...!?
DeaconKnowledge
Member
ratcliffja said:
To you perhaps. But for every person that thinks that DLC is the heart and soul of Rock Band are 10 people that don't give a shit and just want a setlist. Should the game not be released because they can't get DLC in time?
Like I said before it debuted, the people who think it's too big of an omission will wait for the inevitable Rock Band 2, which, lo and behold, is reported to have DLC and Create a player.
edit: OR get Guitar Hero, World Tour.
BenjaminBirdie
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NekoFever said:
I don't think anyone outside the fishbowl of the hardcore gamer considers either the PS3 or the 360 on any kind of upswing. Like I pointed out. A 280,000 gap LTP v. a 2,200,000 gap.
Neither of them are swinging anywhere, in the grand scheme of the marketplace.
MikeE21286
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What game came out to justify 555,000 consoles sold in freakin' July. Lots of it has to do with relative price point and pop culture phenomenondonny2112 said:
solid2snake
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Linkzg said:
MikeE21286
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Sadist said:http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330539
Anyways, I had my NPD fix. Time for bed. Go on gentlemen.
great, very high sales by a few games......good night
viciouskillersquirrel
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Wow. For the first time since this generation began, I've been able to follow this thread along from beginning to end and not have two new pages to read each time I opened a new one.
Could it be.... acceptance?
By the way, MGS4's audience tends to be pretty dedicated, buy consoles for the game and line up to get it day 1. That explains its drop off both in pushing hardware and in copies sold. Though I'm sure its chart ranking drop is not as precipitous as some are claiming.
As for the 360, I find it rather odd that its software sales seem to be slowing down. Could it be a backlog effect? By that I mean that when people first buy a console, they get a lot of software at once in a frenzy but slow their purchasing habits afterwards.
Could it be.... acceptance?
By the way, MGS4's audience tends to be pretty dedicated, buy consoles for the game and line up to get it day 1. That explains its drop off both in pushing hardware and in copies sold. Though I'm sure its chart ranking drop is not as precipitous as some are claiming.
As for the 360, I find it rather odd that its software sales seem to be slowing down. Could it be a backlog effect? By that I mean that when people first buy a console, they get a lot of software at once in a frenzy but slow their purchasing habits afterwards.
Clinton514
Member
Wasn't the 360 price drop recent? And why are people so surprised by the PS3 beating it out?
:lol
It's more interesting seeing the reactions from certain people rather than the actual NPD info
gtj1092 said:
Oddly enough, I just went to Best Buy. (the one on the west side of Abq, if you're wondering) They had a stack of 20GB models next to a stack of 60GB models. Then I went around the corner to see if they had any PS3's or wii's, and lo and behold, another stack of 20GB's.
DeaconKnowledge
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Scrubking said:
With Guitar Hero World Tour ready and waiting to steal sales with a better feature set? Yeah no.
MikeE21286 said:
Part of the reason why casuals are casuals is that they don't rush out to buy a system the second a game they want is available. Wii Fit is still selling systems, no question. I would wager Mario Kart Wii is too, and Wii Sports will sell systems until the end of the generation.
Donny's point is absolutely sound: if we can agree software sells systems (and apparently we can), then it's completely logical to assume that the Wii is selling based on software, because it's selling more of it than anything else in history.
MikeE21286 said:
Something called Wii Sports had a hand in it, I believe. Considering it probably sold 3-4 million in software this month (based on estimates of the past couple of months), there's a few games selling with the system now and again. Maybe you think the DS is selling based on hype alone considering it seems to have only a game or so in the top 10 each month?