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Official Metroid Prime 3 Corruption Hands-on Thread - ALL Previews here
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Backtracking killed the previous 2 for me.... even though I love Super Metroid.
PkunkFury
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the elevators were loading screens, you still had multiple ways to access each area from the others by the end of the game. Especially in Prime 2 which had a really sweet overworld design, like a wheel with spokes, with tons of secret pockets and passages in both worlds. Plus they were never linear in the sense Halo is. Usually there's one way you have to go, but you still have to find itDayShallCome said:
I think it's completely ridiculous to try and judge the linearity of the game based of the E3 demo.
I mean, it's a demo that's going to try and take you through action packed areas. No one wants a demo where you have to backtrack, considering you only get to play for a limited amount of time.
I mean, it's a demo that's going to try and take you through action packed areas. No one wants a demo where you have to backtrack, considering you only get to play for a limited amount of time.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
not worried. of course an e3 demo for this game is going to focus on showing off the new combat controls and environmental interactions. retro has stated ad nauseum that they've got the adventure elements under control, and that it's not a shooter.
The linear design doesn't even seem to be the main issue so much as the repeating level chunks. It worked well enough for Halo simply because Halo was focused on combat scenarios rather than scenery (though it still provided some great scenery). Prime was always about exploring beautiful worlds with even the smallest of rooms appearing unique. Repeating segments would be a travesty here.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
yeah, well, i guess we have a month until we find out. i can't imagine retro making a misstep that huge in the final game.
i've been wrong before though
i've been wrong before though
super funk
Member
Metroid Prime 3 is sort of an enigma. We have previews raving about the controls, but does that sacrifice the traditional Metroid feeling of exploration for better combat? Nothing can every keep you people happy. People have been complaining about backtracking for years but now that 1up says that its gone we go into panic mode?
Plus, I dont see how 1up can call the game too linear when theyve played all of 7 minutes of it.
I myself have been a little reluctant of the title since its claim to fame as having great fps controls, but the point of the matter is that Retro is awesome and there is no reason for us to doubt them. Theyve been working on this series for years now, so I dont think on the final release theyre going to completely screw with the formula.
Plus, I dont see how 1up can call the game too linear when theyve played all of 7 minutes of it.
I myself have been a little reluctant of the title since its claim to fame as having great fps controls, but the point of the matter is that Retro is awesome and there is no reason for us to doubt them. Theyve been working on this series for years now, so I dont think on the final release theyre going to completely screw with the formula.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Nice impressions ! I hope that the OST will be on par with the first Metroid Prime.
TheCardPlayer
Likes to have "friends" around to "play cards" with
Jeremy Parish. He sees repeating in every game. Don't let him bother you.dark10x said:
The issue is...
I've always enjoyed the controls of Metroid Prime and am not looking forward to playing this on the Wii (I hate holding the pointer in a steady position for hours). I have no interest in additional combat as combat should never have been the focus AND I LOVE backtracking in the previous Prime games. I'm sure others would agree.
Many of the complaints leveled at the game were demanding that it should be something it was never meant to be. Look at the results...
dark10x said:
Exactly. I personally think the controls should be:
Nuchuck: forward, back and turn left and right. Hold one of the buttons (Z I guess) to look around
Wiimote: Use the point to lock on only. Point at an enemy push A or B to lock on then puch the other to shoot. down on the D pad can be for missiles that way it is easy to do a super missile. This way you don't have to be constantly pointing at the screen and it pretty much retains the original MP controls.
TheCardPlayer
Likes to have "friends" around to "play cards" with
Point is, there are multiple planets. 1Up just saw one and not all of it. We know the ship acts as a hub that connects all the planets. I'm sure there is backtracking involved somewhere with returning to planets.
NintendosBooger
Member
Backtracking gone, diminished? GOOD. The levels on MP1 were gorgeous and atmospheric, but I was more interested in advancing through the game than getting my ass handed to me again on areas I've already cleared.
I've totally given up on 1up.
First it was their totally unjustified review of ssx blur. Then they said re4 wii wasn't as good as the other versions (what were they smoking). Now they say there is no backtracking based on a 7 minute demo. wtf..
I'm never reading anything from 1up again.
First it was their totally unjustified review of ssx blur. Then they said re4 wii wasn't as good as the other versions (what were they smoking). Now they say there is no backtracking based on a 7 minute demo. wtf..
I'm never reading anything from 1up again.
super funk
Member
dark10x said:
Yes, I agree completely.
jjasper said:
I totally disagree. The uber trick detection worked great, I was pulling off uber tricks left and right after 15min. If you read the review, the guy said he couldn't even do one. Obviously he didn't follow the instructions correctly.
I love the re4 wii controls. Its way better than using the analog stick. And the wii version is the best version.
Zerodoppler
Member
dark10x said:
I'm with you. I've watched most of the new videos, and I still can't figure out what they've supposedly changed about the aiming to make it more like mouse + keyboard. To me, the controls look nearly identical to those in Red Steel.
Have you even played a wii game that uses the wi remote as a pointer?
All you do is rest your arm on your leg and its totally easy and comfortable to hold the pointer steady for hours.
And for the record, I didn't like the mp1/2 gcn analog controls and can't wait to play mp3 with the new controller scheme.
All you do is rest your arm on your leg and its totally easy and comfortable to hold the pointer steady for hours.
And for the record, I didn't like the mp1/2 gcn analog controls and can't wait to play mp3 with the new controller scheme.
dark10x said:
Magicpaint
Member
Completely agreed.dark10x said:
super funk
Member
AniHawk said:
Now thats the first rational thing youve said in a while!
Yes, because God knows, Nintendo building a demo at E3 to show off the controls, to show off the combat and aiming and stuff, is going to be indicative of how the entire game plays. Metroid Prime 3 am become Halo! Series am dead! Bitter fanboy tears am coming!
Not only a seven-minute demo, but a demo BUILT to showcase the new controls. I swear to ****ing Christ, people are just TOO ****ing stupid.
jman2050 said:
Not only a seven-minute demo, but a demo BUILT to showcase the new controls. I swear to ****ing Christ, people are just TOO ****ing stupid.
mentalfloss
Banned
Ristamar said:
Why am I smoking something? There haven't been any PC games that have implemented that kind of feature and it's definitely an advancement in first person control. If you're flanked by a lot of enemies coming directly in front, you lock on to your main competition, avoid his shots, pick off the other guys and then get back to him.
Not something I've ever really seen on PC. It's something that should be a used in any Wii fps from this point on. Great feature.
Man, the trolls are in total meltdown mode today.
Metroid Prime 3 is going to rock. You can't tell from a 10 minute (or less) demo whether or not a game is going to be repetitive or linear. The original Metroid Prime's E3 demo level was the platform stage...and that couldn't have been any more linear at all. To all you lamers pulling out the one or two "disappointing" quotes, it's pretty obvious what you're trying to do.
Retro is not going to screw this up. They are all huge Metroid fans and understand the series well.
Metroid Prime 3 is going to rock. You can't tell from a 10 minute (or less) demo whether or not a game is going to be repetitive or linear. The original Metroid Prime's E3 demo level was the platform stage...and that couldn't have been any more linear at all. To all you lamers pulling out the one or two "disappointing" quotes, it's pretty obvious what you're trying to do.
Retro is not going to screw this up. They are all huge Metroid fans and understand the series well.
jjasper said:
How can you tell? It's a demo. They are focusing on the gameplay mechanics used in battle and interaction. How can you apply that small section of game to the whole experience? Everybody knows that Metroid Prime is about exploration, so it's probably safer to assume that's still the focus rather than to assume it's not. Like I said before, the platform section of Prime 1 was the demo at E3...were we calling it linear then?
Until Retro comes out and says that they're providing some sort of run and gun experience, I don't expect anything but a game based around exploration with fantastic action elements.
Childish and tired defense there...
It's more about ignoring the overwhelming positives to focus on the itsy bitsy piece of concern.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I feel the same way.... but I'll wait on MP3 before passing judgment on the whole series.Mato said:
Bluemercury
Member
jjasper said:
More accurately 1up preview....
I don't mind backtracking but those lengthy walks ranging from over 10 minutes can go to hell..
I mean a solution that'll benefit both sides would be to put in some teleporting devices to lessen the backtracking for the less patient and for those who want to walk from one end of the map to the other end can do so too
I mean a solution that'll benefit both sides would be to put in some teleporting devices to lessen the backtracking for the less patient and for those who want to walk from one end of the map to the other end can do so too
I hated that crap in both prime games...too much back tracking for a 3-d world in that vain. That crap got annoying, i'm all for not having it crazy linear but I'm damn glad they are reducing it.jjasper said:
Now...for an E3 demo, why in they well would they want you exploring and back tracking when they are trying to show you how well the shooting mechanics and control work. They don't want the demo to be boring, and backtracking is boring.