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Yeah that's right blame Vick for Lelie's unproductive year last year, instead of the fact that until alittle after midseason he was the #3 receiver and the fact that we had Greg ****ing Knapp calling bonehead plays and routes for him to run.


Personally I wish we would have tried to keep Lelie and got rid or Roddy White or Michael Jenkins. Congrats on the signing 49er fans. You still will have Alex Smith throwing to him. :P
Can't wait to see yall in the Dome.
 
You still will have Alex Smith throwing to him.

1. alex smith is a better QB than mike vick.
2. i like anthony adams a lot but he has no place in a 3-4 defense. he was productive at times when we ran the 4-3. he is a good guy
3. nate clements won't be doing anything but playing qb according to mike nolans interview yesterday. they asked him if there was any chance clements would return punts, play receiver, or do anything else besides CB and he immediately and without hesitation responded absolutely not.
 
themadcowtipper said:
I heard they are going to use him at QB, that is why he signed with them...

He was a pretty good returner when he was on the Bills. Mcgee and Clements were one of the reasons the Bills had one of the best special teams units in 04' and '05. Bobby April is the main reason. I was just curious, no need to act smug.

Wouldn't trade Willis for a 4th, I would have to think about a 3rd.
 
Update: 03.04.07 — The North County Times (San Diego) is reporting that according to sources who spoke with Porter on Friday. The Bakersfield native expects to visit with San Francisco in coming days.

Source: http://49ersnews.wordpress.com/


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bulger, Hassleback, and Leinart am A CRY

*kicks the **** out of the air*

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
MaestroRyan said:
so if giants land mcgahee, and the texans have ahman green...


who ends up a jet and bronco? thomas jones to broncos and michael turner to jets, and then jamal lewis back to ravens?

I think the Broncos will sign Travis Henry. I see the Jets drafting a running back in the second round. Michael Bush, Kenny Irons, and Antonio Pittman will all be there when they draft in the second.
 
Nameless said:
I think the Broncos will sign Travis Henry. I see the Jets drafting a running back in the second round. Michael Bush, Kenny Irons, and Antonio Pittman will all be there when they draft in the second.

Even though RB is far from our need...Grabbing Bush in the 2nd round wouldnt make me mad at all. Great power back to spell Sjack.
 
Big Zep said:
Even though RB is far from our need...Grabbing Bush in the 2nd round wouldnt make me mad at all. Great power back to spell Sjack.

I wouldn't mind Bush either if he is there in the 3rd. The only weakness Frank the Tank had at times last season was finishing off drives, in fact that was a problem for our offense as a whole--we left a lot of points on the field. I would like a guy like Bush, especially for short yardage and goalline situations.
 
edit- damn I'm slow,Dm is on top of his team
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
i was thinking of starting a smear campaign against calvin johnson so he drops to #11. who's with me?

:lol dream on

Lets do it for #8!
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
i was thinking of starting a smear campaign against calvin johnson so he drops to #11. who's with me?

i heard Calvin Johnson killed Anna Nicole Smith because he was jealous that she could run the 40 faster than him, but you didn't hear it from me.
 
MaestroRyan said:
so if giants land mcgahee, and the texans have ahman green...


who ends up a jet and bronco? thomas jones to broncos and michael turner to jets, and then jamal lewis back to ravens?
I don't think Giants get McGahee, to be honest.

I think Turner stays put and so does Thomas Jones.

I could see Corey Dillon to Baltimore, Travis Henry, Tatum Bell (Lions), or Dominic Rhodes to NYG, and I actually see McGahee in Denver.

Hopefully we learn more within the upcoming week.
 
Striker029 said:
I don't think Giants get McGahee, to be honest.

I think Turner stays put and so does Thomas Jones.

I could see Corey Dillon to Baltimore, Travis Henry, Tatum Bell (Lions), or Dominic Rhodes to NYG, and I actually see McGahee in Denver.

Hopefully we learn more within the upcoming week.

To be honest, Striker, I'm beginning to believe the buzz from January. Word around the Giants was that unless something fell into their laps, they would stay pat and run with Jacobs/Sims combo. Do you remember watching James Sims last pre-season? I came away pretty impressed.
 
LJ11 said:
I hope the Giants or Broncos are dumb enough to give the Bills at least a second round pick for Willis Mcgahee. *Keeps fingers crossed.*

What would be so dumb about giving up a 2nd rounder for a guy who averaged over 1,200 all purpose yards a year and 8 touchdowns playing behind an average offensive line combined with a subpar passing attack? He'd be pretty darn good in Denver's system.

Enjoy Ashley Lelie, Niner fans. He's great at running fly routes or deep post patterns. Don't expect much else though. He is definitely not starting WR quality imho.
 
LJ11 said:
He was a pretty good returner when he was on the Bills. Mcgee and Clements were one of the reasons the Bills had one of the best special teams units in 04' and '05. Bobby April is the main reason. I was just curious, no need to act smug.

Wouldn't trade Willis for a 4th, I would have to think about a 3rd.

bobby april....the guy we kicked out of st louis after 2003. :lol
 
Enjoy Ashley Lelie, Niner fans. He's great at running fly routes or deep post patterns. Don't expect much else though. He is definitely not starting WR quality imho.

maybe not, but if he can put up 700-1000 yards opposite battle or stallworth he will fit nicely. i think nolan is going to use the patriots philosophy in that he's not putting all-star receivers out there, he's just going to let alex become the superstar he was born to be.
 
Andokuky said:
What would be so dumb about giving up a 2nd rounder for a guy who averaged over 1,200 all purpose yards a year and 8 touchdowns playing behind an average offensive line combined with a subpar passing attack? He'd be pretty darn good in Denver's system.

Don't look at averages. He had one good season, and that was '04 when he had to push Henry for the starting job. Our '04 oline was more pathetic than the past two seasons. His TD numbers have gone down and his condition is dog shit.

If you're inside the 20 and Willis got you there, he's on the sidelines being spelled. I have a really good friend whose a Broncos fan, and he always complained about Portis being injured. Mcgahee may not be injury prone, but he's on the sidelines anyway because his conditioning is sub-par.

He also lacks break away speed, both Bell and Portis are faster backs. I'll give Willis credit, because he runs really well inside the numbers but he is pathetic on tosses and stretch plays. He's just not patient enough. Mcgahee can't catch out of the backfield either.

Broncos fans should be hoping for Travis Henry instead. Tough inside runner, really good speed, good hands, and does well on stretch/counters.

soulja224466 said:
bobby april....the guy we kicked out of st louis after 2003. :lol

You kicked him out of St. Louis, and your special teams still sucked the next season. Remember that Bills game? Martz put the blame on your past special teams troubles on April, but it wasn't his fault. Martz refused to use starters on special teams.

April is a really good special teams coach IMO. The Bills always had terrible special teams units until he came to Buffalo. We've had awesome special teams since, both on coverages and returns. I have to give credit where credits due.
 
LJ11 said:
You kicked him out of St. Louis, and your special teams still sucked the next season. Remember that Bills game? Martz put the blame on him, but it wasn't his fault. Martz refused to use starters on special teams.

April is a really good special teams coach IMO. The Bills always had terrible special teams units until he came to Buffalo. We've had awesome special teams since, both on coverages and returns. I have to give credit where credits due.

yep, he was the scapegoat(along with landeta, who we cut after the game iirc). i cant blame martz too much either, because even when he did put starters out there, the results were the same.

i really dont know what the problem is, we've used up coach after coach. hopefully linehan has found a guy who can turn it around, since he just fired last years ST coach ligashesky.

oh and a question, is takeo spikes on the trading block? im wondering if he'd be a nice fit at SLB for the rams.
 
soulja224466 said:
oh and a question, is takeo spikes on the trading block? im wondering if he'd be a nice fit at SLB for the rams.

Takeo may be on the block as well. He's probably being shopped around, but may be released anyway because of his cap number.

Before Takeo ruptured his achilles he was as good as they get. Could rush the passer, cover TE and even a slot receiver. He isn't the same player anymore. The year before the injury ('04), he led all Linebackers in pass breakups (16 IIRC), was tied for the lead with 5 interceptions, and returned two touchdowns. His tackling numbers weren't high, but that's more a testament to Fletcher than anyone else.

Extremely physical and smart, but I don't know if he could ever be the physical force he once was. He strained his hamstring several times throughout the season, and wasn't really ready to play last season. I think he rushed to get back. Great leader and motivator as well.

If you can get him in a trade, and restructure his contract it's worth a shot. I think the Bills want to unload him because they have a young team and they aren't going anywhere. Spikes wants to win before it's too late, and they know Spikes doesn't want to go through more rebuilding.

If he gets released, look for Spikes to try and sign with a playoff contender. He's never been to the playoffs and wants to win above all else.
 
thekad said:
I feel left out.
As a Raider fan, I feel your pain. ****ing make some moves, damnit!

FrenchMovieTheme said:
he's just going to let alex become the superstar he was born to be.
:lol You're too much.

But at least your team has been working hard to improve. :(

I secretly hope we get JGar and since we only have Walter on the roster right now, we're shoppin'!
 
Rorschach said:
As a Raider fan, I feel your pain. ****ing make some moves, damnit!

I've been thinkin' the same damn thing.

Knowing Al he's probably waiting for the draft to pick up another 2 or 3 safeties.
 
DMczaf said:

Yeah, I'm really annoyed we let White go. He's 26 and should have played for another 10 years here or so. So now we've got old and busted Simeon and umm.. who else? Now I definitely want Gaines Adams with our first pick. :\

Excited about the JGar signing though!
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2788148

"There's a difference between the Chicago Bears team and the Chicago Bears organization," Briggs told ESPN.com, when reached Sunday evening at his home in suburban Chicago. "The Chicago Bears team? The coaches, players, city and fans? Yeah, I could stay there forever. I love it. But the Chicago Bears organization? I don't want to be there anymore. I won't play for them and I'll do everything in my power to keep from playing there."

:lol :lol :lol :lol

I would take Briggs if the price was right, either way hes an upgrade, but he is more of a 4-3 OLB than a pass rushing 3-4 OLB. For what we would have to give the Bears for him we could easily trade up for a second round draft pick and take Timmons who is a pass rusher, or Poslusny who is the same type of player Briggs is.
 
Wellington said:
Shit, didn't see that Leonard Davis signed with Dallas. **** you Cowgirls!
They paid $50M for him plus a huge signing bonus.

I definitely didn't want the Giants to use that kind of cash on him. Just because he's now paid like a top OL doesn't mean he is. ;)

Save that cash for Chris Snee.

As for Sims, I'm iffy on him. I wasn't impressed, certainly not enough for him to warrant the change of pace back. Ryan Grant I like more, but I'm not sure about him right now (injury status).

Maybe they get Tatum Bell for a 4th or get Travis Henry to visit.
 
Steeers have a lot of holes to fill this year.

Special teams, offensive line, linebackers, and running back.

And the Pats obviously went after ADT to try and kill Big Ben in the playoffs.
 
bionic77 said:
Steeers have a lot of holes to fill this year.

Special teams, offensive line, linebackers, and running back.

And the Pats obviously went after ADT to try and kill Big Ben IF THEY MAKE the playoffs.

Fixed ;)
 
maynerd said:
You keep your schizophrenia and paranoia out of this thread.

The question isn't whether the Steelers make the playoffs, but whethe they will lose a game in the process of securing home field advantage.
 
bionic77 said:
And the Pats obviously went after ADT to try and kill Big Ben in the playoffs.

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Playoffs!?
 
Apparently the Bengals are going after Stallworth... WTF? They already have Ocho Cinco, Whos your Mama, and Inmate#254864 aka Chris Henry, and Kelly is a good WR as well. Why on earth would they be going for ANOTHER WR. Rudy Johnson might as well move to defense or something because he is never going to get the ball EVER again.
 
Q:
Nameless said:
Apparently the Bengals are going after Stallworth... WTF? They already have Ocho Cinco, Whos your Mama, and Inmate#254864 aka Chris Henry, and Kelly is a good WR as well. Why on earth would they be going for ANOTHER WR. Rudy Johnson might as well move to defense or something because he is never going to get the ball EVER again.

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Another receiver in whom the Patriots reportedly are interested, Donte' Stallworth of the Eagles, is reportedly in the substance abuse program.

Per Bob Brookover of the Philadelphia Inquirer, the specific level of the program currently occupied by Stallworth is unclear. Unlike the steroids policy, which mandates a suspension for a first offense, a player is not immediately suspended for violation of the substance abuse policy. As a result, and in light of the high degree of confidentiality that sometimes applies to the player's status in the program, it's often difficult if not impossible to find out where a player falls within the spectrum of potential levels and penalties before a four-game suspension is imposed.

Stallworth's status in the program likely is a factor in the gap we recently reported between what Stallworth wants and what interested teams are willing to pay.

With that said, former Titans running back Travis Henry is getting plenty of attention in free agency, even though he was suspended for four games in 2005 for violation of the substance abuse policy. And the Titans traded for him when they knew (or should have known) that he was one visit to Rain Man's house in Georgia away from a one-year suspension.

Bottom line -- if a guy can play, he'll get an opportunity. For Stallworth, the bigger issue might be the perception that his hamstrings are tighter than guitar strings.

Edit: Screw you Tamanon. I hope Mike Tice is your next head coach.
 
Slo said:
Q:

A:

Edit: Screw you Tamanon. I hope Mike Tice is your next head coach.

Ahhh all makes sense now..

BTW..

Source:ESPN

Filling their need for a proven tailback, the Denver Broncos on Monday reached a contract agreement with Travis Henry, who was released on Saturday by the Tenenessee Titans to avoid paying him an $8.3 million roster bonus.

Henry will sign a five-year contract that includes $12 million in guarantees.

Good move by the Broncos. They trade TATUM BELL.. for a Pro Bowl CB and then bring in an even better RB.. Stupid stupid lions.
 
Nameless said:
Ahhh all makes sense now..

BTW..

Source:ESPN



Good move by the Broncos. They trade TATUM BELL.. for a Pro Bowl CB and then bring in an even better RB.. Stupid stupid lions.

Lions got an offensive lineman out of it too, which they needed desperately. Don't hate.
 
Broncos got Javon Walker for a 2nd round pick (amirite?) last season.

They seem to strike gold in trades...

In Giants news, WR Kevin Curtis is expected to make a surprise visit.

Amani Toomer re-structured his deal, more CAP friendly.
 
Striker029 said:
Broncos got Javon Walker for a 2nd round pick (amirite?) last season.

They seem to strike gold in trades...

In Giants news, WR Kevin Curtis is expected to make a surprise visit.

Amani Toomer re-structured his deal, more CAP friendly.

kevin curtis a nyg? i still think he'll be with mike martz next year.
 
SonnyBoy said:
Wellie, what's your opinion on Luke Petitgout? He's currently at Redskins park.

I am still pissed that we let him go, how's that?

Luke is probably a top 5 or 6 LT in the game, behind Ogden, Pace, Jones, Roaf (who is gone). When he played for us, Tiki had his best games running left behind him and Dave Diehl on the left. He is an exceptional run blocking tackle, absolutely exceptional. He's almost as good against the pass as well. I can't ever recall thinking that he whiffed on a block or that he almost got Eli killed. The only thing is he has the back problem, now the broken leg he is rehabbing, and of course, he had two seasons ago that penchant for false start penalties. He drastically reduced them last year but it should still be in the back of your mind.

Bottomline is that it was a ****ing HUGE mistake for us to let him go, IMO. He is fantastic against speed rushers and pretty good against power guys(handled Freeney with ease, as well as Simeon Rice and Mike Rucker). He will have trouble when his back is acting up though.

I look forward, very much so, to Osi Umenyiora matching up against him. Should be a lot of fun... :D

Kevin Curtis as a Giant would make me :D :D :D
 
Wellington said:
Thomas Jones traded to the Jets is the word...

Confirmed.

Listening to it on Chicago sports radio 670 right now.

Damn it.

Bears traded Jones and their 2nd round pick for the Jets 2nd round pick.....uhhhhhhh wtf.
 
Please tell me they traded for Patrick Ramsey. PLEASE. :lol

Edit: WTF, they traded their leading rusher to move up a few measly spots in the 2nd round? LMFAO
 
Yeah Briggs is gonna be gone soon. :(

BUT IT ISN'T ABOUT THE MONEY.

Yeah right!

Oh well, this upcoming season is gonna fall on the improvement of Rex so no worries! :D
 
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