But that was about it for Owens mistakes. He had seven catches for 156 yards and one touchdown. He celebrated his 14th score of the season by pouring a minibucket of popcorn through his facemask. A Siskel & Ebert tribute? You never know with TO.
woodchuck said:but that was all the way back in the early 90s.
recently, you had rich gannon who won the mvp
and jeff george played pretty well
I think we can both agree that there have been some dark days. This is like Djibouti and Ethiopia arguing whose citizens starve the most.woodchuck said:but that was all the way back in the early 90s.
recently, you had rich gannon who won the mvp
and jeff george played pretty well
woodchuck said:in terms of not having an actual QB in a long time?
Quincy Carter
RYAN LEAF
Chad Hutchinson
Clint Stoerner
Vinny Testaverde
ANTHONY WRIGHT
Drew Bledsoe
dude, we had ryan leaf as our qb at one point. it doesn't get worse than that.
woodchuck said:in terms of not having an actual QB in a long time?
Quincy Carter
RYAN LEAF
Chad Hutchinson
Clint Stoerner
Vinny Testaverde
ANTHONY WRIGHT
Drew Bledsoe
dude, we had ryan leaf as our qb at one point. it doesn't get worse than that.
AD is whats keeping that team floating. Come on those guys shouldn't even be metioned with Harrision, Moss, or Romo.MaestroRyan said:Tarvaris Jackson makes AD good. You heard it hear first.
edit: Also the Vikings youth means they will be dominating the league for many years
Tarvaris Jackson - plays like romo (with speech impediment):lol
Adrian Peterson - plays similar to Adrian Peterson of OU fame
Sidney Rice - reminds everyone of randy moss
Aundrae Allison - marvin harrison like skills, but with less skill
be scared!
Zeke said:AD is whats keeping that team floating. Come on those guys shouldn't even be metioned with Harrision, Moss, or Romo.
effzee said:hey i heard how tom brady defended moss this past week...but what for?
i guess i missed it but what was he defending moss for or against?
Patriots quarterback Tom Brady passionately came to the defense of receiver Randy Moss yesterday, firing back at critics who have questioned Moss's effort. In a quiet moment in the locker room before practice, Brady was asked if he agreed with ESPN "Monday Night Football" analyst Ron Jaworski, who said Moss took plays off during the team's 31-28 victory over the Eagles last Sunday night. Brady had not heard the remarks, and was made aware of them by a reporter. "I have never, ever felt he has taken plays off. Are you kidding me? There is nothing there about Randy's game that I'm not 100 percent positive on," Brady said.
darkiguana said:I'm a Cowboy fan and even I find this comparison ridiculous. The Raiders and other teams have been putting up with qbs of this quality for decades. The Cowboy's have had 2 HOF Qb's during there existence. For the majority of there history the Cowboy's have had anywhere from average to HOF caliber QBs. The last few years were pretty rough, but most teams have been dealing with this for decades.
woodchuck said:i'm not comparing the history of the franchises.
He said the Raiders haven't had a real QB in a long time. They've had a real QB more recently than the cowboys have had a real QB. And besides Rich Gannon, they did have Jeff George and Hostetler was decent.
Cowboys haven't had a real QB from like 1999-2006.
Off the top of my head, I can only think of a couple of other franchises who haven't had a real QB in that time frame - Bears, Bills, Dolphins, Browns, and Texans (lol).
Is he still available?pheeniks said:
he took us to the playoffs multiple years
Oh Raiders...Following last Wednesday's practice at the Raiders' training facility in Alameda, starting quarterback Daunte Culpepper, still trying to fight his way back from the severe knee injury he suffered two years ago, bragged that he could beat halfback LaMont Jordan in a 100-yard sprint. This wasn't surprising to Culpepper's teammates, some of whom scoff at his penchant for extolling his own abilities in virtually every realm and sarcastically refer to him as "Top Five In the World."
Negotiations between Culpepper and Jordan ultimately broke down, and the quarterback instead ended up racing third-year cornerback Stanford Routt who, during his college days at Houston, finished third in the 200 meters at the 2003 NCAA outdoor meet. Even while starting from midfield and spotting the quarterback five yards, Routt lived up to his surname. "Stanford blew him away," one witness said. "And afterward, Daunte said something didn't feel right. Now, he's on the bench. Doesn't that say it all?"
"We still have a chance to win our division," receiver Ronald Curry said hopefully, "but even if we were out of it, guys would still play hard. We're trying to build something for next year and the years beyond. It's a better team with better schemes, and we're not making as many stupid mistakes as we have in the past."
Adds veteran defensive tackle Warren Sapp, now in his fourth season with the Raiders: "Ever since Lane took the job, something about him wasn't going to let us do the same old (expletive) over and over again. His message has been consistent: 'Let's stop (expletive) around and go play.' He has all the confidence in the world, and we feed off that. This was the best we've played since I've been here, easy; we put our foot on them today."
iapetus said:Paul Spicer has been making some very clear statements about his belief that while the Jags' twelfth man wears teal, the Colts' twelfth man wears black and white stripes:
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/120307/jag_222328606.shtml
Mr. Snrub said:
Mrbob said:So Lance Briggs inked a new long term deal with the Bears today. Interesting to see considering in the offseason he said he would never play for the Bears again after this season. What a difference a truck load of money makes.
Mrbob said:So Lance Briggs inked a new long term deal with the Bears today. Interesting to see considering in the offseason he said he would never play for the Bears again after this season. What a difference a truck load of money makes.
iapetus said:Paul Spicer has been making some very clear statements about his belief that while the Jags' twelfth man wears teal, the Colts' twelfth man wears black and white stripes:
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/120307/jag_222328606.shtml
Kastrioti said:Wow seeing Ray Lewis cry like that really hit me.
R.I.P. Sean Taylor
I guess it brought back memories for Ray.Kastrioti said:Wow seeing Ray Lewis cry like that really hit me.
R.I.P. Sean Taylor
Wellington said:I guess it brought back memories for Ray.
In bad taste, I know, but still...
:lolWellington said:I guess it brought back memories for Ray.
woodchuck said:so much time for brady to throw.
fucking spread offense. go back to college.