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Official Virtua Fighter 5 Battle Arena Version C Thread
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sixteen-bit
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If you're playing as Player 2 online, you'll use your P2 side configuration.Gantz said:
Masta_Killah said:
Yea i was looking at that on amazon , but it has some pretty bad reviews.
And micvlad - i see where youre coming from , but thing is i know almost all of gohs moves.
He doesnt have that much offensive , but his counters are awesome and so are his down grabs.
Tried the analog stick , it makes some of his grabs easier , but i dont like doing forward forward or back forward moves with it.
Ill try it again tonight to see if i can get used to it =P
Question for Aoi players :
when youre on the ground ,you can counter someone who tries to punch you.
Does that also work for people who do the up+punch move when youre on the ground?
If so , i think im gonna use her more =P let me know.
edit : if anyone wants to play , in around 5 hours (at school) - add IceCreamTaco
Masta_Killah
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Trojan X said:
Thanks for the suggestion. I used to play Jacky when he first came out. I liked his fighting style. Is Brad a kickboxer? I'll give him a try as well.
therapist said:
I think he is talking about the Offensive and Defensive Movements that every character has.
He actually does have some pretty good pokes and offensive moves in this game. P, K is good and can be done over and over to be quite annoying since the K recovers so fast and P comes out quickly. Mix it up with throws, or press back after the K to put him in a back turned stance. When he is back turned you can press p+K for a nice spinning elbow thing I think that side turns on hit.
Also, 6p,6p is pretty good. I think they are both mid hits but I could be wrong, and I think you can delay the second hit a bit but Id have to test all of that. I just know I use it a lot, and it works really well. Also mix up not using the second p and going into a throw.
43p is a good move to move you forward and recovers pretty fast. You can hold down during the animation and then press forward p+K for the shoulder after that if they try low p or something.
and yeah, his shoulder (336p+k, or hold down and then fwd and p+K) is a good move. Staggers on low block, beats out a lot of shit and can set up for combos.
Other moves I like are 4p,k and also 66k. 66k is nasty. Hits from far away, they will go to the ground and you can run up for ground throw.
Please do. Even though at $170 the price is starting to look less attractive...Masta_Killah said:
In the interest of full disclosure, this is my "1st" VF so no one could possibly be worse than I am (or will be once I start playing). After admiring the series for years I did buy VF4 Evo, but I had even less gaming time back then and ended up playing a total of maybe 4-5 hours and never got around to going back to it. Yes, for shame. I was all set to give it another try when the home version of VF5 was announced and then decided to wait when a 360 release was mentioned to see which would be better. Sorry, guys I'm not even close to being a hardcore player. I just happened to start the thread when the original was moved to the online forum.Masta_Killah said:·feist· said:Guess you can sign me up for that. I haven't played a VF game since part 2.
The End.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled good players.
Jirotrom said:
I honestly don't mind giving you some tutorial on the game but I do not have the 360 version of the game, yet. I only have the PS3 version and i've been playing the game extensively while I stayed in Japan. If you still like me to give you some advice then please let me know, otherwise you have to wait until I get the 360 version.
For those that are curious: my main characters are Akira, Lei Fei, Eileen and Pai. My tournament characters are Akira & Lei Fei. My ranking with Akira is Liberator and my ranking with Lei Fei is Conqueror. In Japan I am seen as a average player among the elites so, in Super Saiyan terms, if Chibita a Super Saiyan 4 then I'm a high Super Saiyan 2.
Ok, here's a great match with Eileen fighting again El Blaze, a fight you ALL must see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCggmLMKVJM
Some slight corrections for haunts' post (which is pretty good btw, covers quite a bit of Goh's stuff!)
It's f+P, P, not f+P, f+P. I heard online that this move is actually really, really god damn good because of the lag factor. Usually if this move is blocked you can do a low punch to stuff Goh if he tries another f+P but online I heard that the lag makes it so that Goh can literally do f+P, P over and over unless the opponent starts mashing low punch, which is fine because if they do start mashing you can do Goh's low punch cut or f+K knee to counter it. :lol
P, K is also a really good string too... other than P+K from back turned (which turns the opponent to their side) he also has a throw from back turned to mix things up.
The good thing about b, d/f+P that haunts mentioned is that yes, it has good recovery and good range... but it looks a lot like his low punch cut. I don't know if this tactic will work with online players or new players, but I know that some Goh players around here will throw out the low punch cut and see if the opponent will duck and block. Since the cut recovers really quickly you can follow up with f+P, P if they duck on reaction because it'll beat anything they throw out. Again use this with caution because I don't really know how people will react to it online... it works against some people I play against but they're well-versed with how Goh's attacks look so it's a little easier to fool them once (and only once:lol)
b+P, K is good but you need to hit check the K, otherwise the recovery is bad enough that it guarantees a throw attempt from the opponent...
For f, f+K, the normal combo to pull off is d+P, shoulder. A ground throw is alright but it's escapable and you potentially lose damage. f, f+K, d+P, shoulder works on everyone except Akira, El Blaze, Kage and Shun... I think the general combo is to throw out a f+P, P after the kick crushes the opponent. It induces a slam effect as well so you can add in a ground hit on top of the two punches.
One more move to add ... use b, f+P!! That's one of Goh's best moves because it's vastly improved over VF4. It now knocks down on any hit and also leads into combos, usually with f+P, P.
It's f+P, P, not f+P, f+P. I heard online that this move is actually really, really god damn good because of the lag factor. Usually if this move is blocked you can do a low punch to stuff Goh if he tries another f+P but online I heard that the lag makes it so that Goh can literally do f+P, P over and over unless the opponent starts mashing low punch, which is fine because if they do start mashing you can do Goh's low punch cut or f+K knee to counter it. :lol
P, K is also a really good string too... other than P+K from back turned (which turns the opponent to their side) he also has a throw from back turned to mix things up.
The good thing about b, d/f+P that haunts mentioned is that yes, it has good recovery and good range... but it looks a lot like his low punch cut. I don't know if this tactic will work with online players or new players, but I know that some Goh players around here will throw out the low punch cut and see if the opponent will duck and block. Since the cut recovers really quickly you can follow up with f+P, P if they duck on reaction because it'll beat anything they throw out. Again use this with caution because I don't really know how people will react to it online... it works against some people I play against but they're well-versed with how Goh's attacks look so it's a little easier to fool them once (and only once:lol)
b+P, K is good but you need to hit check the K, otherwise the recovery is bad enough that it guarantees a throw attempt from the opponent...
For f, f+K, the normal combo to pull off is d+P, shoulder. A ground throw is alright but it's escapable and you potentially lose damage. f, f+K, d+P, shoulder works on everyone except Akira, El Blaze, Kage and Shun... I think the general combo is to throw out a f+P, P after the kick crushes the opponent. It induces a slam effect as well so you can add in a ground hit on top of the two punches.
One more move to add ... use b, f+P!! That's one of Goh's best moves because it's vastly improved over VF4. It now knocks down on any hit and also leads into combos, usually with f+P, P.
Reno said:
Thats what I thought but couldn't remember. I think I end up holding 6 for some reason everytime I do that move.
Reno said:
Yeah, I use it here and there. It works more often than I think it would and after a while you can totally hit confirm the b+p
Reno said:
Holy shit.. I had no idea you could combo out of that.. That makes the move so much better.
Reno said:
I was going to add that but I guess I think that is more of a defensive/counter move. What do you think? I typically use it when I block a big move, or they wiff something somewhat close. I don't use it too much just out in the open though but maybe im missing opportunities..
OH YEAH, 6p+k, p is really good too. I forgot about that move.
OK, another thing, doesn't his knee counter hit when you catch someone while they are evading? I dont like guessing too much so are there any tricks to keep and eye out for evades or bait evades? And does his 6p,p... the second hit, does it trace or w/e its called when someone is evading?
Crab Milk Mickey
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I wonder how long they took to unlock those masks.Trojan X said:
*looks at Reno*
haunts said:
Yes, if you can hit confirm the punch then move is great to use because then you can start screwing with people and throw out the K at will.:lol
Yes, it's mainly a punisher move... it's not something that you'd use out in the open but it executes in 14 frames which means it's super, super fast. I mean, if you block Akira's double palm (15) and Jacky's f+P, K (18) it's a free combo. Online it may not be so good because the difference in one frame is too small to take advantage of. But it's good for punishing failed evades too. It's also good to use as a round opener since it's so fast
Oh, one other move that's enhanced by online play... d/f+K+G! I heard a lot of people are abusing PPPx strings with Lau, Pai and Aoi so if you run into one of those as a Goh player use d/f+K+G and the counter hit throw to go under the attack. It takes off a good 30% or so if you can nail the throw followup.:lol
Edit: MicVlaD: Those are 10th Dan+ items there, but I don't even know if they're in the 360 version. Sega adds new items all the time for VF.net so without having the game I can't say if it's available with the 360 rev.
CurseoftheGods
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Holy shit. I just met Ryan (from 1up) randomly in an online match. :lol I beat him. 
CurseoftheGods
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big_z said:
Shun (his primary I think). I was Pai.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Narag said:
Nah man, right on, hes a GREAT choice. He embodies a lot of the reasons why I like Virtua Fighter: fluid, realistic fighting style, good combos, good design, etc etc
Finally achieved Master rank with Pai in Quest mode and brought the game over to the studio to challenge Ken, the korean guy. He plays with a stick and we didnt have any, so he was seriously capped and even then his best guys beat all my subs, once I got around to using my main (Pai) I didnt lose a single match.
Scared of how good hell be once we get the stick, really, I like my 166 wins- 9 losses record
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
I guess he has some new material for a blogpost, then.CurseoftheGods said:Holy shit. I just met Ryan (from 1up) randomly in an online match. :lol I beat him.
"God's Beard!"
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I wonder what fighting styles the next VF will add. I mean, half the roster is Kung-Fu as it is...
Karate? Taekwondo? Savate(lol)? A mixed martial artist? Yabusame?
It doesn't seem like there were that many changes to version C, it's kind of like a balance patch, I thought there wold be bigger changes.
Karate? Taekwondo? Savate(lol)? A mixed martial artist? Yabusame?
It doesn't seem like there were that many changes to version C, it's kind of like a balance patch, I thought there wold be bigger changes.
Segata Sanshiro
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Taka-Arashi needs to come back. Virtually all of the reasons for getting rid of him have been addressed now.
"God's Beard!"
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Segata Sanshiro said:
fuck yes.
Attack You
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Raging Spaniard said:
For anyone still using a pad, until you've decided that you like the game enough to invest in a stick, I strongly recommend putting G on RB. It's unintuitive anywhere else, IMO.
Segata Sanshiro
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I find I have extreme problems with hitting a shoulder button at the same time as face buttons. I just leave the config as is and sit the pad down, working the buttons with fingers and not my thumb.Attack You said:
:lol That's actually how my friends know they're getting better. I hold the pad normally until I think they might have a chance of beating me. When I put the pad down and put the fingers on it, they know they're about to get worked over for being a little too good.
Attack You
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Segata Sanshiro said:
If I tried that, my hands would cramp up. My fingers are too thick.
On VF4E, I had G on R2, because it's more comfortable for my index finger to hit that back shoulder button. It's discouraged now, because of that fucking analogue trigger that has been entirely useless for fighters since the NiGHTS pad."God's Beard!"
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Segata Sanshiro said:
I just use the shoulder buttons to replace the button combinations. K+G and P+K would be rediculous otherwise.
3RT,6P,RB is almost too easy, whereas DLC would be imposible with the face buttons. Not to mention how much easier PKG is to do on LT.
Segata Sanshiro
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Yeah, the controllers that adopted the NiGHTS pad triggers failed to realize one of the crucial elements of the Saturn pad: Six equally sized, well-laid out face buttons.Attack You said:If I tried that, my hands would cramp up. My fingers are too thick.
Attack You
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God's Beard said:
The peeps I play with use the other buttons to assign button combinations (P+K, K+G). For whatever reason, I never liked to rely on those. Even in Street Fighter, where I'll consciously put Px3 or Kx3 on their own buttons, I never use them.
Segata Sanshiro
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Yeah, I'm the same way. I don't actually mind other people using them, but to me, for myself, it feels like cheating.Attack You said:
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Attack You said:
I dunno, Ive been playing since the first VF4 with the same button config (default) and it would be hard for me to change it now. RB is easy for me in order to do the counters, LB for throws, etc, its all hardwired into my brainz now. Hell I even hold the controller normally, without emulating an arcade position (which I realize its sacrilege here, but it really works for me, I can pull off any move on the list)
Funny enough I didnt like VF until 4 came out, now its my favorite 3d fighting game :lol Going back to 1 or 3 it has even changed that much, I just always tried playing with Akira cause he looked like Ryu and it gave me the wrong impression on the game back then :lol
I do intend to invest on a stick though. It will take me a long time to get my edge back after I reteach myself how to do all the moves, but itll pay off in the end Im sure.
Masta_Killah
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·feist· said:
http://www.arcadeshock.com/items/pr...le-elite-black-360xbox6buttonblack-detail.htm
here ya go.
So is there no way to let another player with their own profile play online on your account?
My friend who plays VF with me was over and I wanted to let him try his Lei-Fei online but we couldn't find anyway for him to play online except through my profile. Everyone playing player matches were terrible, so he ended up having to play ranked matches and change around my W/L record.
Also, just getting it so we could both use custom characters in offline vs. took like 15 mins and the instruction manual. This whole "you have offline friends" thing was not very well thought out in the X360 version.
My friend who plays VF with me was over and I wanted to let him try his Lei-Fei online but we couldn't find anyway for him to play online except through my profile. Everyone playing player matches were terrible, so he ended up having to play ranked matches and change around my W/L record.
Also, just getting it so we could both use custom characters in offline vs. took like 15 mins and the instruction manual. This whole "you have offline friends" thing was not very well thought out in the X360 version.
slidewinder
Banned
These guys also make a 360-compatible stick that should be comparable to a MAS:·feist· said:
You can customize the parts and button layout (including a curved layout more appropriate to VF). It used to be that there were guys on the shoryuken.com forums who'd build nice custom ones for around the same price as MAS, too.
Bebpo said:
Oh hell, that's an overall 360 problem, not just VF.
I still get headaches everytime I try to get DOA4 into a two player mode with only one profile. At least VF can handle that part right....not saying much, but still...
edit: btw...liking what game got you this new tag? I must have missed something. :lol
PepsimanVsJoe
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Jeeze Louise. I'm only about 32% done with all of the opponents in Quest mode(cleared the first arcade finally).
My rank is uh...Vindicator? No wait it's Vanquisher. I unlocked some horns for Eileen but they kind of suck. I wanted some awesome devil horns but these things look lame. Like she took the tips off of some party hats and stuck them in her hair.
I should just give up on competitive fighting games altogether. It's like taking a test you know all the answers to and still failing. I have a steady grasp of the basics and know a thing or three about good combos and safe/unsafe moves. Then I get online and proceed to block everything with my face. Even simple things like techrolling to escape down-attacks seems to elude me online..yeesh(I got nailed by one while standing even...pathetic).
Did see a Lau dressed like LuBu though(well at least that headpiece that makes him look like a gigantic heroic cockroach)
My rank is uh...Vindicator? No wait it's Vanquisher. I unlocked some horns for Eileen but they kind of suck. I wanted some awesome devil horns but these things look lame. Like she took the tips off of some party hats and stuck them in her hair.
I should just give up on competitive fighting games altogether. It's like taking a test you know all the answers to and still failing. I have a steady grasp of the basics and know a thing or three about good combos and safe/unsafe moves. Then I get online and proceed to block everything with my face. Even simple things like techrolling to escape down-attacks seems to elude me online..yeesh(I got nailed by one while standing even...pathetic).
Did see a Lau dressed like LuBu though(well at least that headpiece that makes him look like a gigantic heroic cockroach)
Flock said:
I bought the Hori stick (without the VF5 stickers) from http://gameasylum.us/xb360hofiars.html - you can use voucher code asylumgift. It was $76 delivered to Melbourne. Deal of the century!
I have seen it at JB Hifi for $130 if you're unable to buy online.
ThatCrazyGuy
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Some of the commands in practice mode make no sense. Maybe it's just me, I don't know.
slidewinder said:These guys also make a 360-compatible stick that should be comparable to a MAS:
You can customize the parts and button layout (including a curved layout more appropriate to VF). It used to be that there were guys on the shoryuken.com forums who'd build nice custom ones for around the same price as MAS, too.
Gosh. I could never use a stick like this for VF. I prefer the hori but if it makes any of you improve your gameplay then it's all good.
PowerSmell
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Has anyone noticed any changes to the quest mode characters?
Anyone remember the Sniper Wolf Vannessa in the PS3 version, named Sniper Woof :lol , who looked exactly like Sniper Wolf, complete with Rifle? For some reason they renamed her S Wolf and gave her the default Vanessa costume.
Anyone remember the Sniper Wolf Vannessa in the PS3 version, named Sniper Woof :lol , who looked exactly like Sniper Wolf, complete with Rifle? For some reason they renamed her S Wolf and gave her the default Vanessa costume.
sixteen-bit
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I fought a Vanessa that was for sure named Sniper Woof the other day. I don't remember her looking exactly like Sniper Wolf and she had an assault rifle, not a sniper rifle.PowerSmell said:
Attack You
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That sucks that they changed an innocent in-joke like Sniper Woof. I love it when games parody other games.
Has anyone seen an 8-button stick for the 360 anywhere? I may have missed it somewhere in the thread, but I didn't see it in the OP.
Has anyone seen an 8-button stick for the 360 anywhere? I may have missed it somewhere in the thread, but I didn't see it in the OP.
I know this is sacrilege, but are there any PS2 controller adapters for the XBOX 360? I tried playing with the 360 controller last night and gave up in frustration.
Oh, and although I've been playing VF since VF1, I prefer controllers to arcade sticks, so recommending an arcade stick is pointless.
Oh, and although I've been playing VF since VF1, I prefer controllers to arcade sticks, so recommending an arcade stick is pointless.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
I consider that to be cheating, IMHO. I just use the usual PKG setup without any funky mapping. This goes for any other fighter as well.Attack You said:
sixteen-bit
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If you read the original post, you'd know that one does exist, it's $80, and it lags like hell.SaitoH said:
adamYUKI
Member
Hey Guys - need some halp. I just hooked up the 360 to a 1080P Bravia via the stock HD component cables and find the online play quite sluggish / laggy. Offline seems ok, as i am able to connect combos, but playing online is noticeably a problem. This is occurring even against opponents with whom i have an excellent connection usually (when playing on my standard def TV).
The 360 is outputting 720p and the display info on the TV screen confirms this. Does anyone have any suggestions?!
The 360 is outputting 720p and the display info on the TV screen confirms this. Does anyone have any suggestions?!