There are never good reasons to buy a new console at release.
I'd also add Halo: Combat Evolved, as it helped established the Xbox as a 3rd choice.
Just like what the title says. Please don't start any flame wars, but news and hype for both the Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5 is indeed underwhelming. Granted, we're still under a pandemic, it has ruined a lot of plans for announcements, and cancelled E3 2020 (Event is dying anyways).
Yes, new hardware is great, especially powerful hardware pushing for 4K and 120 FPS, but what good is it when we still don't know how much these toys cost, or what we'll be playing this Holiday? Halo Infinite is delayed until 2021, and Spiderman: Miles Morales is a glorified expansion.
What we know so far, the return of 2 SKU's just like Gen 7. Xbox Series X isn't the only new Xbox hardware coming out, and Sony will launch the SAD Edition of the PS5. This is indicating that the new hardware isn't going to be cheap. MS will rely on Gamepass and partners that will implement xCloud services (Samsung). Sony will be traditional, rely on hype and ride on the PS4's success.
But What about Nintendo? Well, they do their own thing of course. The next Nintendo Console is still long ways off, but at least they announced that they're still keeping the Hybrid Concept moving forward. However, their second half of 2020 is baron. Complete Gamecube level baron of not knowing what's the big Holiday game coming out, and only rumors of repackaged 3D Mario games, as well an already completed Metroid Prime Trilogy awaiting for a release date. Hell, I'll be scorning Nintendo if the only big Fall game is Pikmin 3.
What do you Gaffers feel about next gen? Are you excited, or as underwhelmed as I am? The PS4 still has some games kicking to it, and Ghost of Tsushima is fantastic. MS will continue to hype Gamepass more, and Nintendo will continue to rely on "Surprises." In my honest opinion, I think Next Gen should have been delayed for another year. That way, next-gen games will be ready and be shown with polish, and also pricing would not be so worrisome.
I don't know. This version of the Spiderman IP is currently more popular/profitable than the current version of Halo. 15 mil plus for a franchise is not something to take for granted/overlook.There are a lot people who feel the same way. The reality is as of current, there is no need to rush out and buy either next gen XBOX or PlayStation this year in 2020. Halo infinite was the only launch title probably worth buying, yet that has been delayed. And PlayStation has what, Spider-Man? Not really a big deal unless you’re a Spider-Man fan or are a teenager.
So far, unless there are some secret launch announcements we don’t know about yet, both next gen offerings for this year’s launch are totally lackluster.
Both companies are doing their best to give us reasons to not buy any of their products
The way this is going, the only winner is Nintendo -- cheaper console with superior games (not interactive movies)
No offense, but I can't help but think that Spiderman: Miles Morales is nothing more than a glorified expansion of the original game. Much like Deus Ex: Mankind Divided to Human Revolution. Granted, they're different games.I don't know. This version of the Spiderman IP is currently more popular/profitable than the current version of Halo. 15 mil plus for a franchise is not something to take for granted/overlook.
Maybe. But will the majority think that way when they see a new Spiderman game for the PS5.No offense, but I can't help but think that Spiderman: Miles Morales is nothing more than a glorified expansion of the original game. Much like Deus Ex: Mankind Divided to Human Revolution. Granted, they're different games.
Cyberpunk 2077 is probably gonna look and run like garbage on the base PS4/Xbox One, so there's also that.There are a lot people who feel the same way. The reality is as of current, there is no need to rush out and buy either next gen XBOX or PlayStation this year in 2020. Halo infinite was the only launch title probably worth buying, yet that has been delayed. And PlayStation has what, Spider-Man? Not really a big deal unless you’re a Spider-Man fan or are a teenager.
So far, unless there are some secret launch announcements we don’t know about yet, both next gen offerings for this year’s launch are totally lackluster.
Ratchet has been confirmed as being in the “launch window”? Where and by whom? Also, a nebulous “2021“ date for HZD2 I wouldn’t necessarily consider launch window, that shit could be Holiday 2021.Just the mere thought of Demon's Souls remade from the ground up is enough to make me hyped for next gen. That is what I'm buying a PS5 for. And then I have Cyberpunk, Scarlet Nexus, Horizon 2, Ratchet & Clank and Kena to look forward too in the launch window. I'd say I'm covered as far as games go for the start of next generation.
Cant wait for that Ninja Garden. Just chopping up all those unwanted frizzy overgrown hedges with my fine ninja blades (what bothers me worse is you took the time to capitalize the N and G and still spelt it wrong lol)I couldn't care less about next gen. As long as we get cool indie and AA cross gen games plus ports of old games to PC (Silent hill, MGS, Ninja Garden) I'll be golden.
I agree OP, other than a few CG trailers we haven't really gotten anything to be excited about yet.
This is a jim "money hat" Ryan failure. He can show more anytime. Andrew House and his crew did. Instead of trying to be clever to show how great he is show things. House and crew understood showing the fans the goods early and not caring what Microsoft or Nintendo would respond with. I miss those guys real gamers who got it. Microsoft shit the bed in 2013 but house and crew still created great hype starting in February and not being secret squirrels to stroke ego's.Spider man, Probably Next gen experience
Ratchet, unique design
Gt7 , more realistic, hoping for VR2.
Kena, unique art style.
Horizon 2, next gen graphics
Demon souls, screenshots looks awesome
New OS experience
Dual sense will make anything exciting again.
3d sound, [talking about bugsnax] nostalgia.
people keep downplaying all of that. This is the first showcase, wait until we get to the 2nd round, it is painful to wait but sony obviously have more to share and it is not realistic to be disappointed before that 2nd round.
Stop reflecting xbox failures into playstation
Yes, we all prefer the marketing plan of the ps4This is a jim "money hat" Ryan failure. He can show more anytime. Andrew House and his crew did. Instead of trying to be clever to show how great he is show things. House and crew understood showing the fans the goods early and not caring what Microsoft or Nintendo would respond with. I miss those guys real gamers who got it. Microsoft shit the bed in 2013 but house and crew still created great hype starting in February and not being secret squirrels to stroke ego's.
This really a too each their own view. To meSpider man, Probably Next gen experience
Ratchet, unique design
Gt7 , more realistic, hoping for VR2.
Kena, unique art style.
Horizon 2, next gen graphics
Demon souls, screenshots looks awesome
New OS experience
Dual sense will make anything exciting again.
3d sound, [talking about bugsnax] nostalgia.
This line up is far more valuable than ps4 launch
people keep downplaying all of that. This is the first showcase, wait until we get to the 2nd round, it is painful to wait but sony obviously have more to share and it is not realistic to be disappointed before that 2nd round.
Stop reflecting xbox failures into playstation
With the ps5 architecture and the history of Sony's studios, it is really exciting to think of what we might see soon and in the end of next generation. That's what makes me buy a new gen console.I’m way more hyped for next gen than I was for current gen. But I understand if people are underwhelmed after the craig reveal.
That's your subjective taste, nothing is wrong with that. But that doesn't mean that what sony showed was average. To most people the whole list or part of it is very very impressive and looks next gen. Go and watch all the reaction videos of the ps5 event and you will see that most of the people were impressed and satisfied. So you are the minority here, Sony is trying to catch the majority and they did.This really a too each their own view. To me
Spiderman looks like it should be a PS4 DLC. Neon and puddles do not make it next gen, but we'll see.
Rachet looks good, but it still just looks like an R&C game at its core..
No a GT fan plus the sense of speed seemed off to me in the video.
Kena - I'll buy for PS4 when they release it.
Horizon 2 - looks great and I'd like to play it. But Horizon is also a weirdly polarizing title.. a lot of people found it dull.
Not a Demon Souls fan, plus I don't get the appeal of remakes.
Don't care about new OS.. its an OS, not exactly hype material.
I'm more concerned about controller comfort than gimmicks. I don't want to wag my controller to spraypaint. Make it comfortable and make the batteries last if not replaceable.
This isn't downplaying or projecting xbox failures onto the PS5 launch. They just haven't shown anything that really wows at this point. Will there eventually be stuff? Absolutely, but launch looks pretty sparse so far. Xbox is in similar boat. Only game that really wowed me so far is Flight Simulator, which is PC at this time.
Taste is subjective. To me neither console showed anything in the Launch window that warranted dropping $500 on a new console. Great game will come from both consoles, no doubt, but so far launch isn't exactly filled with anything that sets the generations apart.With the ps5 architecture and the history of Sony's studios, it is really exciting to think of what we might see soon and in the end of next generation. That's what makes me buy a new gen console.
That's your subjective taste, nothing is wrong with that. But that doesn't mean that what sony showed was average. To most people the whole list or part of it is very very impressive and looks next gen. Go and watch all the reaction videos of the ps5 event and you will see that most of the people were impressed and satisfied. So you are the minority here, Sony is trying to catch the majority and they did.
My taste is strict too like you, but judging from what was shown I can easily imagine how great the games i like will look like in the future and it is exciting/promising. I can't say the same with xbox since their studios are average, xbox's vision is average and their showcase was below average to most people.
I think the more we see from spider man, gt7, horizon and ratchet, the more we compare them to previous iterations , the more we get hyped. Lets see in the 2nd showing..
So much this.Have to agree. I think this is the first generation where I don't see a good reason to get a new console.
There is that ps5 Indy game, Kena that looks super cute. Nothing else besides r&c excite me. I am starting to just prefer retro games.
Spider man, Probably Next gen experience
Ratchet, unique design
Gt7 , more realistic, hoping for VR2.
Kena, unique art style.
Horizon 2, next gen graphics
Demon souls, screenshots looks awesome
New OS experience
Dual sense will make anything exciting again.
3d sound, [talking about bugsnax] nostalgia.
Stop reflecting xbox failures into playstation
the beginning of every generation is underwhelming. look back at previous systems like the nes or sega genesis. the truly great games weren't the launch titles; it took years before the really great games came out.
Ratchet has been confirmed as being in the “launch window”? Where and by whom? Also, a nebulous “2021“ date for HZD2 I wouldn’t necessarily consider launch window, that shit could be Holiday 2021.