Oh yeah, here's another story from someone.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/g2sol/david_prassel_creator_of_orion_prelude_receives/
Now I fucking remember his name. David Prassel. A name I did well to forget.
Guy's a thief, ideas-guy, liar, and a massive titwank to top it off.
Way, way back when the original Orion project started as a small game, way before they decided to sell it I did a few models on the old game when I was looking to do a few things for my portfolio and honestly very soon after, the project was a mess and it was starting to look really shady.
I didn't work with them for too long (less than a month) but left after they started putting assets from Halo in the game. At one point they had Warthogs from Halo in the game and some looked modified.I dont know what happened to the the old project after I left though and I don't remember much from it but it really wouldn't surprise me if there are stolen assets in there. I left not too long into it but I know some people had issues with the project as well and stolen assets. Last I remember the project got a small amount of funding from some company but I don't remember who it was.
The free helmet is totally not a Boba Fett helmet guys. It's a complete coincidence.
Wasnt this game a wave based co-op wave based game? When the fuck did it turn into a Destiny ripoff? It even called them Guardians.
Wasnt this game a wave based co-op wave based game? When the fuck did it turn into a Destiny ripoff? It even called them Guardians.
I can really see the idea guy shit in here.
The free helmet is totally not a Boba Fett helmet guys. It's a complete coincidence.
And I think they want people to know it's not their fault and everyone should boo Activision
Wasnt this game a wave based co-op wave based game? When the fuck did it turn into a Destiny ripoff? It even called them Guardians.
I can really see the idea guy shit in here.
Holy shit they're calling out Activision while simultaneously using a term they very clearly got from their game in the same title
That red dot sight is not a "reference" at all...that's a steaight up copy...
Is this the same game as Orion Dino Beatdown or w/e it was called? That game has a very troubling history ranging from stolen assets, scummy devs all sorts of stuff. They changed the name of it a couple times not sure what it's called now but I assume it's called Orion: Prelude (which I bought regrettably on day 1 when it was called something else). One of the worst games ever made that I've played.
LIMBO-MIND.
So yea just watched that video. You can see the shit clearly ripped from Halo, Destiny, COD, etc. It's clear as fucking day.
While the designs are obviously lifted, the models themselves are clearly not stolen as they are different.
If they stole assets from another game I'd understand but how is copying a design to make your own model dmca' able in a game?
Every single last AAA games has a ton of designs, elements, UI parts and mechanics copied directly from other games
no man's sky's UI is a clone of destiny's UI
many of dota 2s characters are copies of warcraft designs
master chief's helmet was a copy of doomguy...
the entire aesthetic and many of the designs from warcraft were lifted from warhammer
activision's baby call of duty started as a carbon copy of medal of honor after IW lost the rights to the IP when they left EA... Which makes this incredibly ironic
remember that screenshot from last gen that showed every fps of the time had the exact same red dot scope on the weapon (killzone 2, cod and a bunch of other games)
DMCAing design copying is a can of worms you don't want to open, gaming would be nowhere today if that was a thing.
Put your dislike for hacks like these orion devs aside to see the greater picture
This comparison is more suspicious...
Are these weapons based on real or fictional weapons? If real, then fuck this stupidity.
Are these weapons based on real or fictional weapons? If real, then fuck this stupidity.
This is mind blowing. Reminds me back in 2008 with the controversy surrounding Limbo of the Lost taking assets and using them as pre-rendered backgrounds.
Hohohohoh, yep, you were definitely there. I take it that it was still Orion: Source when you were there?
There were still a bunch of stolen Halo assets in place when I was working for Spiral. That was my first indicator that my tenure at Spiral wasn't something to put on my resume.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtmRUGtyXX0
Can someone explain me the random image of the helmet of Kylo Ren at the end of their gameplay reveal? Wut?
Why not just call it Destiny of Battlefield: Space Warfare: A Kideo Hojima game?
While the designs are obviously lifted, the models themselves are clearly not stolen as they are different.
If they stole assets from another game I'd understand but how is copying a design to make your own model dmca' able in a game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtmRUGtyXX0
Can someone explain me the random image of the helmet of Kylo Ren at the end of their gameplay reveal? Wut?
Here, from Reddit via Jim Sterling retweet:
JFC guys, this is 15 seconds into their latest video
Here, from Reddit via Jim Sterling retweet:
Holy shit, you're right.
These dudes are incredible.
This is starting to remind me of that Limbo of the Lost game that got posted on GAF a while ago.
Edit:
LIMBO-MIND.
If I'm thinking correctly, DICE's running joke of dinosaurs in the last few Battlefield games is actually a mockery of ORION. Might be something else though, not entirely sure.
An additional update is available. For the record, I (-David) don't agree with this nor believe it's a good use of a small teams resources to immediately replace any asset.
I was just contacted by the artist responsible (he just woke up to all of this - Eastern part of the world) for the Automatic Shotgun (which is what appears most in fans-submitted comparisons) feels absolutely horrible and has contacted me to inform me that he would feel more comfortable in remaking said weapon regardless of what I do about Activision or how we proceed. So no matter what happens going forward, that weapon will be visually different.
He feels terrible that his piece of art resulted in these events that have affected so many things and he has started production on it this evening to remedy anything he can do directly.
What Activision is claiming isn't a valid or legal use of DMCA. If they were alleging that we had actually RIPPED the Black Ops 3 weapons FROM their game and used them exactly - their shipped meshes, their shipped textures - that is a DMCA case. And the fact that they made an artist feel this way when it's ALL they do is absolute crap.
What they are alleging is that our very own, separately created content is "too visually" or "artistically similar". That is *NOT* what the DMCA covers. That is a form of copyright and IP infringement dispute. Their lawyers know this, but filed this anyways.
We will be seeking resolution for all damages wrongly inflicted towards us FROM Activision via this malicious and overly aggressive tactic.
Our desire to remove said content is purely for our own benefit. We are a small indie team, any minute the game is not for sale during the biggest event is a stake to the heart. Us willing to remove any offensive content and to get it back for sale is to protect our selves, our company and our IP.
As always, we regularly interact and involve our community. If anyone ever has a problem we always invite you to contact us directly at:
connect@trek-industries.com
The devs put an "update" on Steam forum:
The devs put an "update" on Steam forum:
Makes me sad when I see shit like this. How do you have the talent to make games but not your own assets. Hire a damn artist..