Cunth
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Overwatch League bans OK sign due to perceived hate group connections
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MMaRsu
Banned
Its not adopted as a racist symbol at all, fuck off with this bullshit and spreading false information
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
This is why I can talk about anything on neogaf... except politics and this left versus right shit. If you honestly can’t tell the difference when people do this versus others, then I feel bad for you. Maybe it’s an age thing, or where I was born, or what. I don’t know. But when something is said to me, I know instantly if it was a serious comment, or if it was a joke. I think the world needs to go back and remember people are allowed to laugh and joke with each other, but at the same time, it’s clearly obvious when you’re being a cunt for the sake of being a cunt. Sometimes... you just have to call a spade a spade, for example, Trump. If it walks like a duck...
strange headache
Banned
What in the living hell is this rambling word salad about "rapist dads" supposed to mean? Wtf...
No you can't. According to you, the only people who can use this sign in a non-racist manner are people that you're sympathetic to. That's purely subjective in your view and not how it works. If you're that triggered by trolls abusing that sign, they've already won because you've given them what they want... power over your means of expression.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Christ it’s like talking to the children I used to teach. And they had special needs.
The point I’m making is that you should know when it’s ok to make a joke or do a hand gesture. You just KNOW. On the flip side that should mean you also just KNOW when not to do it. You wouldn’t start telling jokes at a funeral, for example.
Are you honestly telling me this kid, who is a fan of gaming, likely of the right age to know what 4chan is, who likely understands all this more than most, stuck his hand in the air on camera in the background and did this sign.....,, to say he was ok?
Seriously?
The point I’m making is that you should know when it’s ok to make a joke or do a hand gesture. You just KNOW. On the flip side that should mean you also just KNOW when not to do it. You wouldn’t start telling jokes at a funeral, for example.
Are you honestly telling me this kid, who is a fan of gaming, likely of the right age to know what 4chan is, who likely understands all this more than most, stuck his hand in the air on camera in the background and did this sign.....,, to say he was ok?
Seriously?
MMaRsu
Banned
Its 4chan attempting to troll the 'left' and ' sjw' and for that they attempted to adopt various existing memes to fit their 'alt right' memes.
That's not what he is saying though. He is just saying context matters and usually you can tell given the context why somebody is doing something. Not every clinched raised fist means black power, not every OK sign means white power. Given the context and situation you can tell who is doing it for what reason.
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Boss Mog
Member
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Exactly. A few years ago in the uk we had this thing people would do where you held the exact same ok sign up and had to try and make people notice it. It was an up close funny troll, and is still done now idea if it went to other places in the world.
But anyway... it’s the same hand gesture. But you know when it’s done, it’s for that reason. Blindingly obvious.
But anyway... it’s the same hand gesture. But you know when it’s done, it’s for that reason. Blindingly obvious.
Cunth
Fingerlickin' Good!
Cool discussion skills bro
Damien Crowley
Member
Damn divers and snorkelers around the world... all racist. 
Shifty
Member
Oh fuck off Blizzard. Quit it with the capitulation to these people that are looking everywhere for something to be offended at.
(Not that I'm super surprised, given this is the same company that patches in sexual orientation for existing characters after-the-fact to please the same subset of loons...)
The Just Right meme is the most wholesome thing the internet ever made. Have some faith in people.
(Not that I'm super surprised, given this is the same company that patches in sexual orientation for existing characters after-the-fact to please the same subset of loons...)
The Just Right meme is the most wholesome thing the internet ever made. Have some faith in people.
Damien Crowley
Member
PhilipDoesMatter
Member
That's why I pulled myself out of ResetEra. Shit is full os rant everywhere. Say a single word their perfect world does not allow, HAMMER.
The world is getting boring and boring.
The world is getting boring and boring.
ResilientBanana
Member
I can't wait until you can't give a thumbs up either.
Barnabot
Member
So it was a pulled out of one's ass thing anyways. It's just some people can't help themselves let them be mind controlled by someone else.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Of course it was pulled out of somebodies arse, everything is. But now it’s actually adopted, and you get people actively doing it to piss others off. The school shooting bloke who was on trial the other day even did it, and i doubt very much he was telling the world he was “ok”.
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Barnabot
Member
You need ask 4chan to do that since is the place for the ultimate knowledge. Aparently Antonio Gramsci is alive and kicking there.
RedVIper
Banned
This thing has been used in my country has a game before I was even born, if I get you too look when I make the gesture I get to punch you. Kids all around play it, now they're all white supremecists because you idiots say so? Fuck off.
Nobody here sees the gesture and thinks "white power", the only reason you do is because 4chan trolled you into it, by actually getting upset you're just giving them more power.
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alabtrosMyster
Banned
That's the most stupid of all the re-definitions done by the SJW crowd, I bet the one who had the idea is laughing pretty hard every time it comes up in the news, I mean, it had to be the work of a troll!
This is literally called the OK sigh, has been used as such for as long as I can remember, because some suspcted noenazi used to signify they liked their sandwich doesn't make it a secret call to kill all non Anglo-Saxons of the world (that would include me).
This is literally called the OK sigh, has been used as such for as long as I can remember, because some suspcted noenazi used to signify they liked their sandwich doesn't make it a secret call to kill all non Anglo-Saxons of the world (that would include me).
Damien Crowley
Member
But you can counter that, if you are fast enough to put a finger through it, then you will get punched! And you have to mark the punch area with a cross gesture!
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Where did I say it did...? The mentality of some people lol. I said when it’s done, you know WHY. This mental gymnastics with you people is exhausting.
Leaving the thread and bailing. Clearly can’t have conversations with people who can’t even read. As I said, I don’t go to Gaf for politics, it seems to be far more on the right than I would even deem acceptable. But I certainly don’t go to Era for it, because they are so far to the left it’s comical.
Enjoy the soup.
RedVIper
Banned
So a kid doing it on a E-sports game is a problem because? Maybe hes trolling his friends? People here did it all the time in snapchat, instagram, hell people still do it on tv, I can be watching a football game and some guy will be doing it.
The only reason the symbol is associated with white power, is because you made it so, if 4chan says something and you just ignore it then it goes away, what you're doing just makes it a reality, the more people complain about the symbol the more power it gets, and I don't understand why you want 4chan to be able to decide anything.
I also don't quite understand what me talking about my home country has anything to do with right or left politics.
And the Swastika is a religious symbol adopted later by you know who. That doesn't mean if I see it graffitied on a wall in some racist part of town I think 'hey some Hindu must have passed here, good on you, praise the sun'. You can draw your own conclusions. You can evaluate the context.
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RedVIper
Banned
Yes because hitler associating with a symbol and killing millions is totally the same as some trolls on the internet claiming that
means white power.This is more like going to a Hindu temple, see something that looks like a swastika and start complaining that they're hitler sympathizers.
What's with the you know who thing, this isn't voldemort.
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Yes because hitler associating with a symbol and killing millions is totally the same as some trolls on the internet claiming that
This is more like going to a Hindu temple, see something that looks like a swastika and start complaining that they're hitler sympathizers.
What's with the you know who thing, this isn't voldemort.
Because whether it is 'a troll' or not the true idiots have adopted it? School shooting guy being one of them.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
spineless decision.
everyone gets so upset/offended over the most dumb things these days and you have these companies backing down to them.
where does it end?
everyone gets so upset/offended over the most dumb things these days and you have these companies backing down to them.
where does it end?
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Banned
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xrnzaaas
Member
*for other (alive) people ;p
Sorry, couldn't resist...
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
Is this like when the Nazis culturally appropriated the Swastika?
BTHR Zero X
Member
Nope. Hindus also have the actual swastika.two different things
The name swastika comes from Sanskrit(Devanagari: स्वस्तिक) meaning 'conducive to well being' or 'auspicious'.[7][8] In Hinduism, the symbol with arms pointing clockwise is called swastika, symbolizing surya (sun), prosperity and good luck, while the counterclockwise symbol is called sauvastika, symbolizing night or tantric aspects of Kali.[8]
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Banned
Obviously. But back then, it was a website called VierChan.
RedVIper
Banned
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By posting a picture showing the difference between the manji and swastika? I don't think you get context very well.
strange headache
Banned
Considering your general attitude to fall back on insults rather than arguments because you're quite obviously intolerant to the viewpoint of others, you shouldn't be teaching at all, especially not special needs kids. Your particular view on this hand-sign is the result of a small ideological bubble in the U.S. that keeps getting triggered by an equally small ideological bubble of trolls that get a kick out of it. As for the rest of the world, and the majority of sane people out there who don't spend every waking minute in this petty culture war of yours, it's just an "OK" sign.
You just know? Your appeal to common sense is not even an argument, it's merely a fallacy. But we're the ones that are 'retarded', amirite?
Yes because the national symbol of a very real totalitarian regime that was responsible for the systematic eradication of 6 million Jews is totally comparable to a couple of meaningless trolls on 4chan, who just want to rustle the jimmies of a couple of overly sensitive snowflakes that are falling for this sh*t. Get a sense of perspective, man! You are the ones giving these people power, not the other way round.
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How exactly have I given them power in any way?
I like the fact that we are still pretending it's just some internet trolling.
'Meaningless trolling' that has caught on with the actual crazy white supremacists
https://nypost.com/2019/03/15/suspected-new-zealand-shooter-appears-in-court/
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Please make the peace sign racist next, so millions of Asians will be confused with what to do with their hands in selfies.
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1.21Gigawatts
Banned
"Vier Tschan zu dem Sieg."
I remember them. They operated from Munich and their leader was an incel from Austria who never got over people not liking his lame paintings.
strange headache
Banned
By acknowledging the meaning that these trolls want you to see behind that hand-sign. And you're falling for it, hook, line and sinker. This is exactly how these minority of trolls want you to react, giving them power over your means of expression.
First the Nazis, now this. You really like your silly appeals to hyperbole in order to formulate an emotionally laden pseudo-argument. First of all, are you seriously suggesting that the people using that hand-sign are fine with the deeds of the New Zealand shooter? Second of all, the fact that this person used that hand-sign does not make it taboo for everybody else to use it. The New Zealand shooter probably also drank milk, consumed toast and liked certain music, does that imply that all other people who like these things are guilty by association?
Now you're just being silly.
badblue
Gold Member
How long till they remove this Spray from the game?
That is not "ok" it's the Jnana Mudra one of the most common hand positions used for meditation.