IP address?
That's probably the absolute easiest way to check if a cheater got back in your game short term.
Edit: Missed the VPN part. Hmmm, now i'm curious too.
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PC Gamer: Overwatch cheaters are having a hard time.
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IP address?
That's probably the absolute easiest way to check if a cheater got back in your game short term.
Edit: Missed the VPN part. Hmmm, now i'm curious too.
My point exatly and i shall not miss them in a heartbeat, you choose to cheat live with the consequences because you can't play fair and just want to ruin other people's fun..good to see blizzard going in with the banhammer like they do in all there games.
stufte
Member
Yes they deserve a perma ban. Cheaters can absolutely destroy a game community, and in turn, the revenue of the developer. Taking a hard-line stance against it is the only way.
+ Siege
Imperfected
Member
That's impressive dedication to being a cheating fuckhead.
Maybe he should have just used all that effort playing the game and getting better?
Maybe he should have just used all that effort playing the game and getting better?
Do we actually know that it's a permanent ban? The game's been out for only ten days.
EDIT: yep. It's a permaban.
Really?
So a stupid 14-year-old should still be banned when he's 24?
Seems really harsh imo. I'm all for cracking down on bans. I'm all for requiring them to buy a new copy and pay a real financial penalty to rejoin the community.
But I think the current policy is the most extreme we've ever seen and warrants some serious discussion.
Why permanent and not a 1-year ban? You're suggesting that teenagers could be locked out of gaming ecosystems as an adult for mistakes they made as a kid.
Lemonte
Member
I like this idea too.
Audioboxer
Member
Fully agree. The only way it stops is painful experience and word of mouth getting out.
This is the line other devs should follow and hopefully we start to change the landscapes on PC MP gaming.
Only things that ever need reversed are false positives.
half a moon
Banned
That would be halarious.
stufte
Member
Maybe they shouldn't cheat. I have no sympathy for teenagers who try to ruin a gaming community by cheating, they don't deserve to play the game any more, even 10 years later.
GrantDaNasty
Member
Blizzard is taking their anti-cheat seriously. Which on one hand is great, but as has been mentioned: at what point is it going too far, or what if someone ends up in a false-positive situation or some wants to e-mail Blizzard support and ask for another chance?
roadrunn3r
Member
Yes, a cheater moron fully deserves a permanent lifelong ban. I don't believe in cheaters redemption and you shouldn't too.
I was a teenager too once, didn't feel the need to cheat, same thing for all my friends. Why are you somehow trying to justify cheating with age? Young age doesn't make you stupid and irresponsible.
CarbonFire
Member
Using a new blizzard ID on a different computer? Sure they can come back.
Actions have consequences. The consequence of cheating is you have to spend a lot more money if you want to play the same game again.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Get rekt cheaters. There's no ranked mode so there's no point in cheating.
Hip Hop
Member
I mean, this is not a new concept, a lot of servers out there in different games give you a lifetime ban even if you buy a new copy.
Recurring cheaters is a problem, no matter the price of the game. We've seen this plenty of times. If it takes a blanket wide ban for anyone cheating, then so be it. I don't see it as a problem.
Only way to fight this stuff is to be harsh. You let the trust go the moment you cheated.
They'll take it as a learning experience.
Recurring cheaters is a problem, no matter the price of the game. We've seen this plenty of times. If it takes a blanket wide ban for anyone cheating, then so be it. I don't see it as a problem.
Only way to fight this stuff is to be harsh. You let the trust go the moment you cheated.
They'll take it as a learning experience.
Jin
Member
Do people do this as a challenge? Otherwise I can't understand why someone would buy a game four times just to cheat. You would think by the second or third time they would just play the damn game. Someone must have been paid to find a stable cheat for Overwatch.
Audioboxer
Member
False positives can be looked into. Second chances? Nah. Learn once and the next Blizzard MP game or others if they follow with such a policy as Blizzard and you are never cheating again.
You don't just stumble into PC cheating applications, they require searching and being part of hacking/cheating communities. Joe Blogs isn't downloading a cheat off of NeoGAF.
Did you read the OP? That's exactly what someone did and he was still banned.
half a moon
Banned
The last 3 times were to play it clean but he got banned no matter what he did to throw off his flag.
He didn't change his PC, he did re-install windows and change a few of his hardware IDs but nothing as extensive as swapping PCs
Mojoraisin
Member
Yes. No one will care about this game by then anyway. Feel free to buy another game and hopefully you've learned your lesson. Strike down hard on cheaters. It's one of the reasons I left Pc multilayer gaming.
Love this.
did you even read the article
Afaik he did not do it. He wanted to play the game "clean" now. So the last three times he did not use cheats anymore.
Hip Hop
Member
There's need to be more penalties for people like that. Wouldn't mind seen the account be closed. Microsoft already does this iirc
CarbonFire
Member
No. I mean a COMPLETELY different computer. Different copy of windows, hardware, the works. Not a wiped one. Unless they're banning billing addresses (which would suck if several people have accounts at the same address), Blizzard has no way to stop someone from buying a new copy on a new computer using a new Blizz ID to play the game. And even then, PO boxes exist. That's not banned for life, that's just a very stiff financial hit for being stupid.
And if he's old enough that he used his own credit card and his own name and address and still didn't know better than to cheat, then I have zero sympathy.
Jin
Member
I thought so too but the guy got caught cheating once then the next three copies were to play it clean but was still banned. The article reads like he was attempting to cheat 4 times. He wants to go legit after the first time and was still banned.
Right, I somehow read it as him buying the game four times just find a way to cheat.
If he's swapping hard drives and using new installations of Windows, he might as well have swapped his PC.
Gentleman Jack
Member
EatinOlives
Member
Cheating in a game that doesn't even have a ranked mode yet.
How sad are some people? Seriously...
How sad are some people? Seriously...
CosmicQueso
Member
Yes. Unquestionably.
TheRealJakoozie
Member
I think this is too harsh. Merely by having the game be a full price game I think a ban of the copy of the game you own should be enough. Don't think that most people will be deterred from cheating if they risk losing the game they paid at least 40 dollars for?
I think they do deserve this.
MacGurcules
Member
Actually, their official policy is that they will not entertain appeals or further investigate issued bans. False positives are permanent.
Hip Hop
Member
The more wiggle room you give, the more weak your system against hackers becomes. You can't compromise that, especially for a game that relies on multiplayer. These people are the only ones that can tarnish the experience, this type of ban is very fair.
This is some great stuff, and I hope for more companies to do this.
Glass Shark
Banned
I think it's fair to ban the account they cheated on, but if they get a new one and decide to keep it legit, it kinda sucks to ban that one too.
The thing about false positives is that Blizzard would have to believe that they can happen and actually be willing to cooperate and investigate properly. Many companies have a policy of banning people and not sharing any info whatsoever with the Customer. For many companies, you're effectively dead to them in that way. No appeals, no investigations. Wouldn't surprise me that Blizzard operates the same way, which really sucks if false positives is a thing.
Absolutely. Fuck these people. They're actively going out of their way to ruin the product for other people so they got what they deserve.
Audioboxer
Member
Must be confident in their system then. Until average joes get bans for running an antivirus nothing to worry about. Don't mod MP only games in anyway.
Stuff that can surprisingly happen like a set of nvidia drivers triggering bans or a harmless windows app will be met with huge spikes in bans and be easy for Blizzard to fix.
Trying to inject your own skins into the game and then claiming false positive is not a false positive.
I don't really agree with the "Ban all alts / machine / HWID" or whatever Blizzard seems to be doing.
Cheaters are shit and ruin games, yes. But to ban new copies - bearing in mind this is a "full priced" PC game? That's a bit far.
You're already cutting down the chance of repeat offenders with the price tag vs F2P like TF2 or cheap entry like CS:Go.
Cheaters are shit and ruin games, yes. But to ban new copies - bearing in mind this is a "full priced" PC game? That's a bit far.
You're already cutting down the chance of repeat offenders with the price tag vs F2P like TF2 or cheap entry like CS:Go.
And that is...hell I never want to be in that situation.