Tell me a system, which plays old games, to current games like pc?What a load of bullshit.
Try playing Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition on a GTX 1060 or an RX 580 PC.Tell me a system, which plays old games, to current games like pc?
To us pc players, its a form of preservation. Without needing a physical copy.Xbox and Playstation are backwards compatible with at least one generation and I don't think games older than that sell in any meaningful way.
Isnt that graphic issues? It doesn't have anything to do with pc.Try playing Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition on a GTX 1060 or an RX 580 PC.
I will test that on my pc. Will see if the game works fine or not.Playing old games on a pc is a fucking nightmare, you will spend endless hours trying to get a modern pc to interface with an old game because either the graphics card support won't play nice or there will be no sound because the pc can't figure out what the hell you expect it to do. My pc is super old it's still running win 7 and it's not a powerhouse in any way but i had the urge to play shivers an old sierra horror game that i love, i still had the original cd in my possession. Could i play it? could i fuck it flat out refused to work with a 64 bit version of win 7 there was no patch fix or emulator way of getting it to work as intended.
In the end i had to wait till years later GOG managed to release a version that worked and they went about it by using scummvm with tweaks to play the damn thing as it obviously wouldn't work on it's own. As good as pc hardware is it does a piss poor job of legacy support for a lot of old games as it's just assumed that if it's old then nobody will ever wanna play it anymore so just move on to the new & shiny and forget the old games.
Actually, in the 8-9 years i've had an I72600K i had to replace only my graphics card, nothing else.Only needs if you need to play games that demands it be "current gen".
"3: you only need graphic card changes."
But this is very wrong...
I know! Every year, my PC costs me another five grand in hardware! It's crazy, I tell you!You're not much of a PC gamer if you dont know that a motherboard needs to be upgraded if it does not support a new CPU etc.
Running on windows is a huge issue in itself..... pop ups, restarts, constant updates, subscriptions for everything on it now.......
PC is a headache that most people don;t want or eventually run out of patience with.
Crypto fked up pc gaming as of now. I was lucky my pc was 500$. Rx570 is like 300-800 now. A 2017 gpu.Many people like gaming on PC because they can:
-play hundreds of old games (even from early 2000 like you have mentioned)
-customise graphics settings to their liking
-use their favorite cotroller
-install interesting mods.
IMO PC is the ultimate gaming platform without any doubts, but the problem is you have to pay a lot if you really want to play the latest games . I'm usually upgrading my PC once every 5 years, and I have to spend around 2000$ each time. My current PC is already old and I think I will just buy PS5 (maybe XSX as well) this time around, because my old favorite PC games still runs great and current hardware prices are more expensive than ever.
On sites like pcgamingwiki you can find instructions how to run old games, so you only need to spend few minutes installing necessary patches. I'm playing on PC since 1997 and the vast majority of my games still runs fine.Playing old games on a pc is a fucking nightmare, you will spend endless hours trying to get a modern pc to interface with an old game because either the graphics card support won't play nice or there will be no sound because the pc can't figure out what the hell you expect it to do. My pc is super old it's still running win 7 and it's not a powerhouse in any way but i had the urge to play shivers an old sierra horror game that i love, i still had the original cd in my possession. Could i play it? could i fuck it flat out refused to work with a 64 bit version of win 7 there was no patch fix or emulator way of getting it to work as intended.
In the end i had to wait till years later GOG managed to release a version that worked and they went about it by using scummvm with tweaks to play the damn thing as it obviously wouldn't work on it's own. As good as pc hardware is it does a piss poor job of legacy support for a lot of old games as it's just assumed that if it's old then nobody will ever wanna play it anymore so just move on to the new & shiny and forget the old games.
Does that change the fact, that you can't play those games?You're not much of a PC gamer if you dont know that a motherboard needs to be upgraded if it does not support a new CPU etc.
Running on windows is a huge issue in itself..... pop ups, restarts, constant updates, subscriptions for everything on it now.......
PC is a headache that most people don;t want or eventually run out of patience with.
Feels good man. Feels good.Alpha dogs like myself own a high end gaming PC as their main platform, and supplement it with the consoles for exclusives and to compensate for the inevitable shit PC port that shows up from time to time. This renders all platform warring instantly irrelevant.
Feels good man. Feels good.
Ok so what do you do then when you have googled and there is no solution to get your game running? as that's exactly what happened to me i discovered shivers would not work on a 64 bit version of windows there was no fix or patch to get it to run properly.Running older games on your PC is not a 'fucking nightmare'. It requires a partially functioning brain and the ability to google things.
You know, now I'm curious how powerful this rig would actually be.So you have like a Intel 386 + RTX 3080 + 640k of RAM on your rig and this is ok for today's games?
What do you do? You go back to consoles, because there is no problem that cannot be solved. You're right, it isn't simple. It isn't easy. It's an enthusiast platform that sometimes requires work and effort and the ability to read and problem solve. If you can't understand how to run Retroarch, or setup a VM, the internet isn't going to help you.Ok so what do you do then when you have googled and there is no solution to get your game running? as that's exactly what happened to me i discovered shivers would not work on a 64 bit version of windows there was no fix or patch to get it to run properly.
The problem with pc hardware is there's so many pieces of old video & audio tech that's poorly supported, you have to rely on the mercy that someone wrote a patch to fix something to run on a newer gen of pc hardware if they didn't then your fucked unless you go build a old pc using obsolete parts to make it match the spec of the game you're running. It's nowhere near as simple as people make out and i'm no stranger to running a multitude of tricky emulators.
Can't you use a VM? Games is old enough for it to run properly on one. Its not really tricky to use emulators either so i don't get where you're coming from.Ok so what do you do then when you have googled and there is no solution to get your game running? as that's exactly what happened to me i discovered shivers would not work on a 64 bit version of windows there was no fix or patch to get it to run properly.
The problem with pc hardware is there's so many pieces of old video & audio tech that's poorly supported, you have to rely on the mercy that someone wrote a patch to fix something to run on a newer gen of pc hardware if they didn't then your fucked unless you go build a old pc using obsolete parts to make it match the spec of the game you're running. It's nowhere near as simple as people make out and i'm no stranger to running a multitude of tricky emulators.
Yeah, some games won't work. It sucks, especially if the only old game you want to play is one of those. You shouldn't make such sweeping statements based on your experience with a single game, though.Playing old games on a pc is a fucking nightmare, you will spend endless hours trying to get a modern pc to interface with an old game because either the graphics card support won't play nice or there will be no sound because the pc can't figure out what the hell you expect it to do. My pc is super old it's still running win 7 and it's not a powerhouse in any way but i had the urge to play shivers an old sierra horror game that i love, i still had the original cd in my possession. Could i play it? could i fuck it flat out refused to work with a 64 bit version of win 7 there was no patch fix or emulator way of getting it to work as intended.
In the end i had to wait till years later GOG managed to release a version that worked and they went about it by using scummvm with tweaks to play the damn thing as it obviously wouldn't work on it's own. As good as pc hardware is it does a piss poor job of legacy support for a lot of old games as it's just assumed that if it's old then nobody will ever wanna play it anymore so just move on to the new & shiny and forget the old games.
None of it requires defending. Sometimes arguing about video games is more fun than playing video games.PC gaming doesn't require defending.
you canYou absolutely cannot play Enhanced Edition of Metro Exodus if you're on a GTX or non-RDNA 2 based PC without a next-gen hardware.
i think there is already a website called Confused..comEvery generation, consoles bring out new systems. Once a new system is out, the old system dies slowly, and devs won't earn money from it anymore.
But this is not the case for PC platform. You can play a 2000 game on pc, buy very old game, and still support the publisher, if they are still in the business.
What do you think gaffers?
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Mobile format is hard.
1: You can play very old games
2: You can play on your old pc.
3: you only need graphic card changes.
4: Publishers will still get money from the system.
5: Your games won't die out, until the store gets closed permanently.
6: Digital Pc rules, due to discounts.
Edit: People seem to think that you need specifically new graphics to play pc games. These graphic main job is to meet the game's requirements. It doesn't actually block you from accessing the game.
You can wait 10 years, and still able to access those games. You dont need to spend 1k to play these games.
Your new graphics can still play your old games. While the new console generation aren't able to play them. Since they get new stores system every generation.
Pc has 1 system generation, which is windows. As long as windows exist, those games will exist. How you access them, depends on you.
To us pc players, its a form of preservation. Without needing a physical copy.
Having to play older title, which you liked as a kid on your new setup is great. Best part is the graphics.
Gta3 graphics is atrocious for me on pc right now. It was great in 2011, when I uses to play it on home pc. You get moments like that.
Any game more than 5 years old isn't worth playing unless it's an absolute classic and turn based like Xcom 1994 or Vagrant Story.
you can
1080p, ultra settings at 30fps, medium-high for 60 fps.
And this is the 3gb version of the card on top of that.
Unless you mean ray tracing, but thats a dumb requirement considering the game doesn't need it to look great.
Any game more than 5 years old isn't worth playing unless it's an absolute classic and turn based like Xcom 1994 or Vagrant Story.
Have you seen how many absolute classics we have?Any game more than 5 years old isn't worth playing unless it's an absolute classic and turn based like Xcom 1994 or Vagrant Story.
This card literally plays the game better than a ps4.At this point.... what's the point? why suffer if 200$ ps4 slim can play it better.
PC is not only about "being able to". It's about "BEING ABLE TO DO BEST".
Not really. Plenty of people still running 970s from 2014.Not sure what were you drinking when you posted, but PC gaming needs constant upgrades to keep up with tech.
None of those are third person cinematic adventures with Arkham combat that are published by Sony though.Have you seen how many absolute classics we have?
Deus Ex, Baldurs Gate, Thief, Blood, Planetscape: Torment, System Shock, Half Life, Gothic, STALKER, FEAR, Vampire Masquerade, Portal, Legacy of Kain...
Hey, the video game I'm playing right now (Ace Attorney) has arguing as a core gameplay mechanic.None of it requires defending. Sometimes arguing about video games is more fun than playing video games.
When my GTX 1080ti failed, I moved to a laptop with a 3060M in it. It's actually slightly weaker in TFLOPS. But it gets the job done.Not really. Plenty of people still running 970s from 2014.
One of my friends still uses a 560ti. Most graphically intensive game he plays is dark souls though.
The theory that you always need to upgrade is false. But people love to consume.
How did your 1080 fail?When my GTX 1080ti failed, I moved to a laptop with a 3060M in it. It's actually slightly weaker in TFLOPS. But it gets the job done.
Have you seen how many absolute classics we have?
Deus Ex, Baldurs Gate, Thief, Blood, Planetscape: Torment, System Shock, Half Life, Gothic, STALKER, FEAR, Vampire Masquerade, Portal, Legacy of Kain...
This card literally plays the game better than a ps4.
And if we're talking about building a PC right now, theres no reason to pick a 1060 over a GTX 16xx series or a RTX 2060, which play even next gen games perfectly fine at a decent price.
Deus Ex >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything by sony on the ps4Those aren't turn based. Going back to play old action games just shows how poor they are without the rose tinted glasses.
If you actually think Doom or Quake are 'poor', you might need some time at a mental institution.Those aren't turn based. Going back to play old action games just shows how poor they are without the rose tinted glasses.
"Pc is a strong platform, because it doesnt need next gen hardware"
You absolutely cannot play Enhanced Edition of Metro Exodus if you're on a GTX or non-RDNA 2 based PC without a next-gen hardware.
And you certainly won't be able to play 4A Games next game without one.