Syphon Filter
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30 fps is awful, do you also want to eat food from a trash can?
I've been doing 120fps for over 5 years.Once you go 120, you can't go back to 30. Even 60 is rough after 120.
Haha such an original responseI choose to render my games at 16k and limit the framrate to 7.5fps via Nvidia Inspector.
28 inch 4K monitor at monitor distance.OP how big is your TV and what is your viewing distance. I never was bothered by 30fps until I upgraded my TV.
Xbox series has VRR they can run it at 45 FPS if they want RE8 does this already.40 hz for 120 hz televisions (like Ratchet and Clank) needs to become a much bigger thing for high fidelity games. I really like that mode a lot.
Really hoping they can pull it off for Forza Horizon 5.
I would love VRR, but I don’t have an HDMI 2.1 monitorXbox series has VRR they can run it at 45 FPS if they want RE8 does this already.
the trick is to not be a little bitch
¯\_(ツ)_/¯One does not simply like 30fps through preference. You're just settling and delusional. It's okay to have higher expectations.
Yeah 40hz locked for 120hz without VRR.Xbox series has VRR they can run it at 45 FPS if they want RE8 does this already.
So I posted on Reddit how excited I was to know Kena is getting a 30fps mode and people decided to just crap all over me as if it’s my fault that they included that mode.
“You’re dumb if you like 30fps”
“60fps is always better, if you want cinematic, watch a movie”
“Can’t wait to play at 8K/15fps, that would blow your mind”
“I can’t understand how anyone can LIKE 30fps”
“60fps is next gen”
“You don’t play movies”
“Have fun with your juddery slide show”
“You won’t notice a difference between 4K and 60fps mode but you will notice a difference between 30 and 60fps”
“30fps has too much input lag”
“Nobody wants 30fps, why are you excited?”
Why can’t people have preferences and like what they like? They act as if it bothers them greatly that someone else out there likes something they don’t. How did we ever put up with 30fps games for the past 15+ years if 30fps is simply unplayable?
Also, their brains pretty much explode when I tell them I would cap my games to 30fps on PC for maximum graphical fidelity.
“Who cares, you can’t see all that detail once you’re moving!” — umm yeah I can and you know what else I can see? A blurry image at 60fps.
Why would the devs put the 30fps mode there if people like me didn’t exist? If 60fps is 100% always better, then why not just force 60fps on everything and not even give us a choice?
Even though it’s an optional choice, they still seem to think their way is always superior like they’re PCMR all of a sudden. Why did everyone turn into frame rate snobs over night? Where have the graphics/image quality whores gone?
/rant
It depends on the game.
So I posted on Reddit how excited I was to know Kena is getting a 30fps mode and people decided to just crap all over me as if it’s my fault that they included that mode.
“You’re dumb if you like 30fps”
“60fps is always better, if you want cinematic, watch a movie”
“Can’t wait to play at 8K/15fps, that would blow your mind”
“I can’t understand how anyone can LIKE 30fps”
“60fps is next gen”
“You don’t play movies”
“Have fun with your juddery slide show”
“You won’t notice a difference between 4K and 60fps mode but you will notice a difference between 30 and 60fps”
“30fps has too much input lag”
“Nobody wants 30fps, why are you excited?”
Why can’t people have preferences and like what they like? They act as if it bothers them greatly that someone else out there likes something they don’t. How did we ever put up with 30fps games for the past 15+ years if 30fps is simply unplayable?
Also, their brains pretty much explode when I tell them I would cap my games to 30fps on PC for maximum graphical fidelity.
“Who cares, you can’t see all that detail once you’re moving!” — umm yeah I can and you know what else I can see? A blurry image at 60fps.
Why would the devs put the 30fps mode there if people like me didn’t exist? If 60fps is 100% always better, then why not just force 60fps on everything and not even give us a choice?
Even though it’s an optional choice, they still seem to think their way is always superior like they’re PCMR all of a sudden. Why did everyone turn into frame rate snobs over night? Where have the graphics/image quality whores gone?
/rant
Would you like it better if that 360p video was 120fps to have maximum motion clarity? Haha. That’s how I feel about 60fps. It looks blurry to me so I usually prefer higher resolution.the only games that are tolerable and don't play worse at 30fps are Text Adventures, Graphics Adventures and turn based games like RPGs. everything else is only really good at 60fps
30fps might be tolerable but it's tolerable in the same way as watching youtube videos at 360p is tolerable whenever your connection sucks and you have no other choice
Well there is your first mistake, you tried to have a discussion on Reddit. Do yourself a favour and never use it again. Reddit is a cesspool.
Secondly, nothing wrong with liking 30 FPS. I noticed there are two types of people who cry about FPS:
1.) Platform Warriors (typically PCMR)
2.) "Hardcore" gamers. The ones who think they are hardcore, at any rate. Only ever play AAA titles, disregard everything that isn't modern day AAA titles as being for kids or shit.
The reality is most actual hardcore gamers, y'know the ones with an actual passion for the medium, don't give a rat's arse about graphical fidelity or FPS. They may have preferences, but they won't dismiss or claim a game is unplayable. They play everything from 8 bit titles that ran at 10 FPS to the most well optimized PC ports that run at 120+.
If you like 30 FPS? That is fantastic. Some prefer 60. Some prefer 120, but anyone claiming they literally cannot play anything below 60 is a simple troll. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
Would you like it better if that 360p video was 120fps to have maximum motion clarity? Haha. That’s how I feel about 60fps. It looks blurry to me so I usually prefer higher resolution.
I cry about FPS while being none of the strawmen you described. 30fps sucks, end of story... just because I also play GoldenEye on N64 at 20fps doesn't mean I can't also be of the opinion that low framerates are bad for videogames and are only even a thing because of A: bad hardware that is hard to actually utilize or B: game developers wanting to sell games with shiny trailers and screenshots.
no game designer that is good at his job would ever design a game to run at 30fps, because it's simply not good. it's a compromise, nothing more. they want to sell games with graphics because that's easy, you can't bring across good playability on a compressed to death youtube trailer which you can't actually play and feel.
so just because "actual hardcore gamers" like me who play freaking GTA Vice City at 30fps because running it higher breaks the physics complain about framerate doesn't mean we don't play 30 or even 20fps games... it means we think it sucks that these games run at 30 or 20fps, which it always does, it never does not suck that these games run at low framerates.
hence why I will never ever play the original N64 version of Perfect Dark ever again, outside of maybe looking back at it and get some nostalgia, because on Xbox 360/One/Series you can play the game at 60fps and up to 4K with 2x MSAA and the game is a dozen times more enjoyable that way.
meanwhile I can't play God Hand at 60fps because it's locked to its framerate, but I still love the game, even tho I can acknowledge that it sucks that it runs and is locked to 30fps
But how can you tell the graphics look good while the game is moving in a trailer? I mean, its a slideshow after all and only useful for screenshots ¯\_(ツ)_/¯no because I can't feel a non interactive youtube video... but I can feel the camera movement, button response and overall gamefeel, and all that is worse at 30fps in a big way.
also in a youtube video you don't move your camera in order to spot enemies or specific items, which also feels so much worse at 30fps because of the way worse motion clarity
This.anyone claiming they literally cannot play anything below 60 is a simple troll. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
Some great games were at 30fps 20 years ago. Clearly this means we shouldn’t improve that. Let’s also dial back the graphical detail to n64 polygons. It was good enough back then, it’s good enough now.But how can you tell the graphics look good while the game is moving in a trailer? I mean, its a slideshow after all and only useful for screenshots ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No idea how we ever played some of the greatest games of all time at 30fps or lower.
Re4 was 30fps now made even BETTER with newer versions being 60fps.RE4 is one of my the best game ever
30fps
Silent Hill 2 is one of my the best game ever
30fps
Final Fantasy IX is one of my best game ever
20 fps on battle, 15fps on world map....
EDIT : Excuse me... I'm european... 25fps