Just a couple of years ago diet racism was all the racists things people say short of using slurs. Now we're seeing these fuckwits defending the use of slurs. Like...what DO these people consider racist?
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Just a couple of years ago diet racism was all the racists things people say short of using slurs. Now we're seeing these fuckwits defending the use of slurs. Like...what DO these people consider racist?
Then I apologize, it's not my intent, Pewdiepie is a dumb racist fuck, certainly, and Lirik kindof a stupid person.
BreezyLimbo
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Another one
This guy is so fucking selfish. He only cares for his channel because Youtube will probably have even stricter rules after this ..... I mean really?
His tweet is a mix of strawmanning and tu quoque, though. He is claiming we cannot shun PDP because we're racist in Twitch chat. All he is doing is showing that he lives in a bubble and thinks the world is as ugly as that bubble.
Phife Dawg
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Between some people in here trying to relativize this and learning there is a middle ground between being normal and being a racist I am really scratching my head.
PewDiePie's base is his base. They're all playing on the same team. Got to keep on earnin'.
For the actual YouTubers who speak out against racism, whoever they may be, they are the commendable ones.
Did the same thing with jontron's situation. Hugely disappointed by a lot of youtubers I was following, insidious assholes. At this point in the game there is no place for centrists. Specially concerning white supremacy.
And once I know their views into this, it's impossible for me to separete their material with their shitty views.
How long is PDP gonna wait before he addresses this? He will obviously have to relatively soon I imagine.
Watched this earlier, as soon as PDP says it and they are like ''Ok fuck him man''.
It should be THAT simple for everyone.
Watched this earlier, as soon as PDP says it and they are like ''Ok fuck him man''.
It should be THAT simple for everyone.
Gotdatmoney
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I hope he steps on a lego brick barefoot.
GavinUK86
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lol the beginning of that video hits the nail right on the head. he was playing a game, not trying to escape a burning building. that's not a high intensity situation.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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His lawyers are refining his statement with high scrutiny, as we speak, all while PDP gets a facial.
Twitch probably needs to really crackdown on the chat that happens in the streams. Auto-bans for certain words. Some sort of delay or restriction on how soon you can chat after making an account to make bans mean something. Actually having a real staff to handle a report/ban system beyond streams and mods.
I assume Youtube Live has the same issues.
If they are essentially paying you by giving you a platform with subs/donations - much like tv they should also fine you. I'm sure a 50k fine for a big steamer "slipping up" would help clean up the services pretty fast.
Both services really need to clean themselves up in terms of what they allow from both streamers and chat.
I assume Youtube Live has the same issues.
If they are essentially paying you by giving you a platform with subs/donations - much like tv they should also fine you. I'm sure a 50k fine for a big steamer "slipping up" would help clean up the services pretty fast.
Both services really need to clean themselves up in terms of what they allow from both streamers and chat.
mentallyinept
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This motherfucker...
As someone who brushed off the nazi controversy a few months back based on some really misleading shit in the report that started it all up... I'm really sorry I gave this fucking bastard the benefit of the doubt for one millisecond.
Ugh. The stink of shame feels like it permeates my whole being... damn.
As someone who brushed off the nazi controversy a few months back based on some really misleading shit in the report that started it all up... I'm really sorry I gave this fucking bastard the benefit of the doubt for one millisecond.
Ugh. The stink of shame feels like it permeates my whole being... damn.
NinjaBoiX
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I know you're already banned but I want to reply anyway.
Black people referring to each other as "nigga" is usually them co-opting a slur and subverting it's use to be jovial and perhaps empowering. Very few people are going to be hugely offended at two black friends greeting each other with "ma nigga" or whatever, it's a term of endearment.
Pew venomously spit out "nigger" as an attack on someone, he even goes on to almost correct himself to "asshole" which speaks volumes about its intent.
He used a racist slur to insult someone he dislikes, it's a totally different thing.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Yeah but it's worse as unlike Trump he was just a 'normal' guy in the UK who rose to his fame and fortune.
Yet to still have this hatred in his being despite being extremely lucky and privaliged is just mind-blowing to me.
Gotdatmoney
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As far as I'm concerned anyone who doesn't speak out directly against PewDiePie is trash.
This is the most popular streamer on the planet proclaiming it's fine to say nigger.
You are not in a rock and a hard place here. If you are too scared to say this is wrong you can get fucked.
This is the most popular streamer on the planet proclaiming it's fine to say nigger.
You are not in a rock and a hard place here. If you are too scared to say this is wrong you can get fucked.
Hot Coldman
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he cares so much about being a calm voice of reason that he forgets to be either calm or reasonable
killdatninja
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I'm not sure why people keep equating being racist as only people hating/despising human beings for being a certain race/color. You can still be racist by spewing shit or doing certain actions (i.e. security guard following someone based on their color). Sometimes these thoughts/actions are done at a subconscious level, guess what they're still racist thoughts/actions even if you didn't mean to say or do them. Being ignorant doesn't excuse someone from being racist either.
The words themselves don't bother me at all anymore, I've been exposed to racist shit for a long time now, getting called a spic/wetback/illegal/beaner is whatever to me. What bothers me is that these people legitimately don't think they're racist and don't get called out/exposed for it. People who live in their own bubble and think "it's 2017, racism is dead", it's never been dead and I'm glad high profile racist shit is out there to prove to people things haven't got better over time.
The words themselves don't bother me at all anymore, I've been exposed to racist shit for a long time now, getting called a spic/wetback/illegal/beaner is whatever to me. What bothers me is that these people legitimately don't think they're racist and don't get called out/exposed for it. People who live in their own bubble and think "it's 2017, racism is dead", it's never been dead and I'm glad high profile racist shit is out there to prove to people things haven't got better over time.
Throw a PM to us on Discord should it arise. If more notice nothing is better than everyone reporting it individually so we can take care of it.
Everyone should feel welcome so there is no place for any slurs.
Don't worry, i did too at the time. I thought it was just bad comedy at the time. Turns out he really is a racist piece of shit.
The fuck does "being caught in the middle" even mean? In my mind, you're racist or you're not
Crossing Eden
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I imagine those people sit through this scene in Mafia 3 and think, "Hmmm he's making some good points. I empathize." And miss the point completely.
Also just so we're clear on the money involved - Twitch streamer lirik who is mentioned in this thread has ~20,000k subscribers paying between $5-$25 a month for a subscription.
Twitch takes $2 of a $5 sub, leaving the streamer with $3 per month from each sub. Assuming that every sub is $5 (so ignoring that some are up to $25) - Lirik makes $60,000 a month from subscribers alone. He gets in neighborhood of $10000 in donations a month, so $70,000 a month total.
That's $840,000+ a year just off of Twitch.
Twitch takes $2 of a $5 sub, leaving the streamer with $3 per month from each sub. Assuming that every sub is $5 (so ignoring that some are up to $25) - Lirik makes $60,000 a month from subscribers alone. He gets in neighborhood of $10000 in donations a month, so $70,000 a month total.
That's $840,000+ a year just off of Twitch.
Honestly the language Lirik uses on his stream can be very dodgy and pushing the line. "retard" this, "retard" that, all the time. It wouldn't surprise me if he's used or is surrounded by stronger words than that off stream tbh.
Omotesando
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What if Pew or a other white guy spit ''nigger'' ma nigger in a jovial way. Is that acceptable?
I really dig the ''Maaaa Nigger'' Denzel Wahsington line and sometimes use it to express my thankfullness to some friends I know.
Don't kill me.
Good that they pay attention to it. And the first thing korey says "fuck this guy".
TheAuldTriangle
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Typical from fucking boogie. An absolute coward.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
BUT BUT BUT ITS JUST VIDEO GAMES!!
The Broken Ska Record
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Of course it's not acceptable.
How can you find out how many subscribers a twitch streamer has?
I'm so saddened to see a young black kid (PDP's Target) doing mental gymnastics to excuse him
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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What a bunch of nonsense. You either stand up for what's right or you are a part of the problem, it doesn't have to be more complicated than that.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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That shit is not acceptable. Full stop.
Ocarina_117
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I hate video game-youtube culture and the boys club it has become.
Fuck your revenue, where's your sense of decency?
The use of the word here and anywhere is vile.
Fuck your revenue, where's your sense of decency?
The use of the word here and anywhere is vile.
Gotdatmoney
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How about dont say it? Instead of looking for a socially acceptable way to say it how about you just stop?
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Never liked this guy anyway
Well just speaking from personal experience as a White man in America, White folks really don't like the idea that the things they think/say/do are racist. Thy prefer to think that racism is over so they can blame others for the problems in this country. So the standard for actually being racist is so high they they can't possibly be called one. You have to shout you are 100% a racist and proud of it from the top of a mountain in klan robes and even then you probably just need to be educated.
Korey is right, but people still disliking the video.
BLOODED_hands
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Twitch can but they give their employees the choice of what to allow and not allow in their own chatrooms. The best case you'll see are broadcasters who ban certain emotes, copy pasta, memes, and words from their chatrooms. Some idiots are "smart" though and they play the donation/tip/cheers game or sub game.
K N I C K E R S just donated $5! or xxxknickersxxx just subscribed! <- are probably two of the more common ones and most streamers don't even know what they just said.
ClosingADoor
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God damn, that is more then Star Wars and Marvel actors make in their first movies.
Omotesando
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I'm pretty sure someone earlier in this thread used Mafia 3 as an example of "look how often the word is used, no wonder people say it!" ignoring the fact that Mafia 3 clearly contextualizes it as a word used by fucking bigots.
More people need to play Mafia 3.
Gentleman Jack
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It's really not that complicated. For the last several decades people have been taught that the worst thing you can be is a racist.
But instead of encouraging certain people to stop saying or doing racist things, it has caused them to circle the wagons and defend people from accusations of racism, because nobody is a bad person anymore and everything is a forgivable mistake. That's at the heart of the defense force around PDP and behind the 'everybody says those words in private' belief system.
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