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Pewdiepie's response video
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Yeah, I don't want to engage in any complaints because if I disagree with you I'll be labelled a nazi.
No one is labeling you a nazi.
And you could also go back at least a couple of pages.
Messofanego
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The majority of his audience are young and impressionable, they could easily be turning to alt-right/Nazism thanks to his normalising of antisemitic jokes and not feeling very sorry about it (only that others got offended and disagreed with his sense of humour) because this is his phase of "honesty". I don't like to pull the "think of the children" card, but there's a possibility of radicalisation as these kids grow in an internet era of such normalisation of hate speech.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Did Family Guy turn the previous generation into Nazis?
I'm not familiar with family guy's content, but I'm pretty sure that 9~14 kids don't really watch it.
Too grandiose.
On the Markiplier video, I do feel Slowbeef said it best https://twitter.com/slowbeef/status/832754502339997698/video/1
Lol perfect.
jack_package_200
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ArchedThunder
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Here's the problem, Mark, Pewdiepie made disrespectful jokes and is getting disrespect for it. It's that simple.
McMoneyman
Member
Get in there Beef!
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
This is fantastic!
OniBarubary
Banned
I love Markimoo but this is fucking legit.
Gormenghast
Member
I don't think I've seen a single video of PDP where he was respectful of the thing the video was about.
Family guy had MUCH better context/setup for jokes and Family Guy is probably on the lower tier side in comedy at this point of its life. PDP is legitimately just 4Chan level of jokes.
Like raising millions of dollars for charity?
StreetsAhead
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Pewdiepie is a 27 year old man. He ain't no kid.
I think they meant do something specifically with all of the attention gathering around this series of events. This could've been a big moment for PDP to take a massive stand against the kind of discourse going on now in YouTube culture, and instead he squandered it.
Sure they might have meant that but it sounded more like a dumb drive by post to me.
This dude makes reaction videos and comedy skits. "Taking a stand against YouTube culture" isn't some gradoise do-goodery. Ignoring it completely is extremely rational behavior for a grown, adjusted being.
How ridiculous have people become to expect sketch comedians to owe an obligation to moral lecturing? Have you lost all perspective? Is everything a pulpit to you?
Exactly, he's not obligated to do anything.
StreetsAhead
Member
He's also not obligated to make intentionally offensive jokes about Jewish genocide, either. But here we are.
Even so, and even if that poster was talking in general and not about these events, donating large amounts to charity is a great deed but it does not absolve people of responsibility for their words and influences over others. This apology was needed, but unfortunately took a back seat to his own personal excuses on the situation. Whether or not his excuses are valid (I think he has valid concerns in some places), they taint what could of been a more honest and sincere video about his taking a joke too far and potential reconciliation with those he had upset.
I don't believe PDP is anti-Jewish, but I think this video did the bare minimum in making that message clear, and certainly hasn't dissuaded the very vocal Alt-Right audience he had garnered.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Uhh... PewDiePie seems to be taking criticism worse than a seven year old does.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=NuL34KaIPw0
I'm... not sure I would ever want this guy as an employee for anything if he thinks these videos are good, healthy reactions.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=NuL34KaIPw0
I'm... not sure I would ever want this guy as an employee for anything if he thinks these videos are good, healthy reactions.
Louis CK makes jokes in very similar fashions, but does not have the same enthusiast Alt-Right audience that PDP has. That's because Louis CK makes it clear what his standings are outside his comedy. Many comedians do this. There's a difference between your performance and ideology, and it's not crazy for people to want to know those differences and if they are there.
For example, idubbbz wears his ideologies on his sleeve, his work is often not very far from his views, while someone like Filthy Frank is separate from his work, where his performance is exaggeration/parody and don't usually align with his views.
Bubbavelli
Banned
You're dickriding Pewdiepie pretty damn hard here fam
Red Arremer
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And THIS is what normalizing bigotry will do first. You get people using the slurs more often, and the distinction between who is "joking" and who is serious starts to blur more and more, until you can be openly bigoted without getting shit for it.
This is exactly the kind of thing that pdp has been contributing to by making anti-semitic (and other bigoted and offensive) "jokes" that aren't functionally different from actually saying and meaning the thing seriously.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Can't wait to see people to defend this. Keep digging that hole.
Bubbavelli
Banned
We are on gaf after all. Where everything is a sleight to us gamers and we must protect "freedom of speech" AT ALL COSTS.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Protect the freedom of speech for PewDiePie to share screaming videos where delusional YouTubers call for the harassment and firing and boycotting of journalists who wrote a story on PewDiePie.
I mean... He can do that.
He just looks like a child and an asshole for doing it.
Maybe free speech warriors can focus on another cause...
And it's not as if he's not going to be making money anymore.
He'll just be making less money.
Bubbavelli
Banned
But you do know its really about the ethics in mainstream journalism right?
"It's hard out there for a conservative brony..."
Red Arremer
Member
Altrighter assholes have appropriated the term freedom of speech to not mean "say things without the government interfering (unless it falls into forbidden things like slander)" to become "be a dick to other people and feel entitled to not be socially ostracized or ignored", and it really upsets me.
I'm most definitely not I already said that I think he's a dumbass, don't look at one post and make assumptions.
Bubbavelli
Banned
So you're defending a dumbass?
BobbyColtrane
Member
i want to hit him just because of the way he says "pewdiepie"
Yeah alright got a good laugh at that.
That captured it pretty well. I watched the original Markiplier video and he comes off as insincere and stilted, like an electronics store salesperson. There's something off-putting about they way he talks, I don't want to believe a word he says. I haven't seen much of his Youtube stuff, so I'm not sure.
To be honest with you I don't even really know why I bothered replying to that post, but it's true that he's raised millions for charity, so it's not like everything he's done is worthless.
It's the tone that people use that I find disagreeable not the stance against what PDP did or has done in the past.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
If the argument is these jokes normalize hate then none of that matters.
Like making a response video where it gets #1 trending, and the 99% of the votes get positive ratings, meaning that they're standing with him, and making all this discussion in an internet forum meaningless, because we're doing the same posts from page 1?.
The opinions in here will not change, everyone took their side, either you're with him, or against him. You can be in a grey area and move out like others did.
At the end of the day we all agree that we disagree with each other.
Stop with this discussion, it's over.
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