I don't think it means price match, but i think they have an idea of how their cost compares to sony. For the most part i think sony has more expensive components ( SSD, 3D Audio chip, Heatsink ) are going to cost more then the equivalent.Sounds like got the CEOs approval to price match Sony as I suspected with his comments earlier about not being out of line in price or power.
I don't think it means price match, but i think they have an idea of how their cost compares to sony. For the most part i think sony has more expensive components ( SSD, 3D Audio chip, Heatsink ) are going to cost more then the equivalent.
all of the customization to help eliminate bottlenecks
The man is determined.
I’m beginning to think if it were up to him he’d match the PS5 pricing. I don’t know what kind of power he answers to over at Microsoft and what they’re expecting the hardware to make (or lose?) long term..... but this guy is out for blood.
I'm going to expect them to beat sony on price. I'm actually not sure why everything thinks Xbox will cost more. More powerful doesn't always mean higher cost.
You think Microsoft Studios will outdo SWWS in visuals?Im sure Phil will be very pleased when the xsx is doing better then the X1 and the xsx is very competitive in the visual department.
I'll be pretty impressed if they are able to price match the PS5.
I doubt this seriously, art is about preference and style and Sony has it in spades. If anybody is able, I'd point at Ninja Theory or maybe Playground. Plus Sony is stepping it up already even before the gen starts. Although, admittedly Ghosts of Tsushima looked a bit dialed back last time they showed it. I was kinda willing to shrug it off as ok it's still needs polish...but the date is getting close.You think Microsoft Studios will outdo SWWS in visuals?
I don't think it means price match, but i think they have an idea of how their cost compares to sony. For the most part i think sony has more expensive components ( SSD, 3D Audio chip, Heatsink ) are going to cost more then the equivalent.
You think Microsoft Studios will outdo SWWS in visuals?
I'll be pretty impressed if they are able to price match the PS5.
Anybody talking about PS5 being 9.2TF should be ignored. They are trolling or very dumb.Why do you think that's most of the time when that's the exact opposite of what theyve said? They said SOMETIMES it would go a little down. And who said anything about jumping down to 9.2 when he said a couple of percentage points?
Gone are the day of platforms having visual technologys not possible on the other platform.
You think Microsoft Studios will outdo SWWS in visuals?
When did Halo and gears look better than all of Sony's first party? Also they had the more powerful system the last couple years. And if you think having to make things work on the launch Xbox One held back the X then for the first year were gonna see the same effectThey did it with Halo and Gears, back when they had powerful consoles.
Now they are back on the powerful menu, so they have the potential to deliver another breakthrough IP.
When did Halo and gears look better than all of Sony's first party? Also they had the more powerful system the last couple years. And if you think having to make things work on the launch Xbox One held back the X then for the first year were gonna see the same effect
That's 4.2 TFLOPS actually.It's common sense really when you take into consideration that this is 1.84 Tflops and PS5 is 10.2 Tflops
Anyway. Have fun with the rest of this thread. I'm out
4.2 TF to be exact and 10.2 TF isn't going to change much about that graphics other than ugly Ellie at 4kIt's common sense really when you take into consideration that this is 1.84 Tflops and PS5 is 10.2 Tflops
Anyway. Have fun with the rest of this thread. I'm out
I played Halo and Halo 2 with friends back in the day. We never mentioned the graphics like we did with final fantasy or GT and gears was a next gen showcase but in 2007 we already had games like uncharted and COD4 out and MGS4 on the way and cod 2 was a next gen showcase tooWhen Halo: Combat Evolved launched, it made every PS2 game palish in comparison. It was simply a technical masterpiece the PS2 couldn't compete with. It was a revolutionary game, also. It was the living demonstration that the Xbox was much more powerful than the PS2.
And Gears of War was the best looking game for some time and also another revolutionary game.
Those are the type of games that you can do if your console is powerful enough and the right dev takes advantadge of it.
With the Xbox One you couldn't make a Halo or Gears, it was too weak.
With the Xbox Series X, you can.
I played Halo and Halo 2 with friends back in the day. We never mentioned the graphics like we did with final fantasy or GT and gears was a next gen showcase but in 2007 we already had games like uncharted and COD4 out and MGS4 on the way and cod 2 was a next gen showcase too
Yeah technically it is never denied that. People never seemed to care about that part of it thoughThat's a cool story, still doesn't change that Halo it's far better technically than any PS2 game could ever dream of.
Can someone please photoshop Phil's face into Tom Cruise? I think it will be relevant in the near future many many times
Yeah technically it is never denied that. People never seemed to care about that part of it though
A year head-start and a cheaper console made the Xbox brand. That's about it.
I'll be pretty impressed if they are able to price match the PS5.
Nie ma sprawy.Fucking perfect, thank you! xD
A price match is ok. They'd have to undercut them on price to really make a dent like they did with 360 and that was $200I still highly believe that Microsoft will match Sony's price whatever it takes!
Not sure how you’ve come to this as we haven’t even seen 1 gameplay from either company to conclude what you’ve just said? You might wanna give that crystal ball a polish.
1X being 6TF there wasn’t anything jaw dropping for it? Gears 5 was good I won’t lie, but a 4.2TF machine running Ghosts of Tsushima looked almost next-gen to some.
Always comes back to the talent each company holds within their portfolio.
Hmm, can't say if "you are welcome" or "I don't have messages" aka Nemám zprávy : DNie ma sprawy.
4.2 TF to be exact and 10.2 TF isn't going to change much about that graphics other than ugly Ellie at 4k
This is just game from Backward compatibility. No need to be salty.Agreed. Look at what the XSX has been able to accomplish from 6 Teraflops to 12 Teraflops:
(Critically acclaimed Gears 6 running on 12 Teraflops of sustained GPU power)
If you can't see the difference here, you should just stick to gaming on a Switch.
You forgot to conclude.Really?
PS4 - 1.84
Xbox One - 1.3
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PS4 - 0.54 more tflops
PS5 - 10.28 (sometimes)
Xbox SeX - 12.2 (always)
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Xbox - mininmum 2.0 more tflops
This is just game from Backward compatibility. No need to be salty.
XSX downclocks to 1.84TF that is why there is no difference.Are you telling me the XSX downlocks? Am I not getting the full sustained 12 Teraflops here?
XSX downclocks to 1.84TF that is why there is no difference.
Yeah, I’m sure having better hardware will help you lead sales. It’s not like the Xbox has ever been stronger than the Playstation and still got stomped. Oh wait.
using compressed youtube video to showcase graphical fidelity LOLCan you stop spreading lies? Unless the bro's at DF and Microsoft are not telling the truth. XSX does not downclock for anything:
"But up until now at least, the focus has been on the GPU, where Microsoft has delivered 12 teraflops of compute performance via 3328 shaders allocated to 52 compute units (from 56 in total on silicon, four disabled to increase production yield) running at a sustained, locked 1825MHz " -DF
Ref: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-inside-xbox-series-x-full-specs
Here is another shot with Gears 6 at a sustained 12 Teraflops:
This was joke.Can you stop spreading lies? Unless the bro's at DF and Microsoft are not telling the truth. XSX does not downclock for anything:
"But up until now at least, the focus has been on the GPU, where Microsoft has delivered 12 teraflops of compute performance via 3328 shaders allocated to 52 compute units (from 56 in total on silicon, four disabled to increase production yield) running at a sustained, locked 1825MHz " -DF
Ref: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-inside-xbox-series-x-full-specs
Here is another shot with Gears 6 at a sustained 12 Teraflops:
Shots firedLet's use the same technique by cyber69
0.3TF Nintendo Switch vs 4.2TF PS4pro
Well can you? : PCan you stop spreading lies?
Here is another shot with Gears 6 at a sustained 12 Teraflops:
He tried to create a narrative with youtube compression comparison to downplay 12 TF awesomenessThis was joke.
What do you want to accomplish ? This is just gears of war 5 from Xbox one X with better performance and slightly refined visuals.
Xbox SX could have 50TF, still this would be last gen game.
Shots fired
He rightfully felt good about the One X. It was a success for them and was an important part of regainimg confidence in the Xbox brand.He felt better with XBONEX as well, look how that turned out......I guess we will re-interview Phil come November of this year when the head to heads, first party games and sales numbers roll...….There's always a followup for tangibles...
Cant tell if serious. You talking about OG Xbox? It outsold Gamecube. Nintendo. Gamecube. Company known for making Windows and boring flight sims came in 2nd their first try. They did alright for the new kid on the block. Think how much worse it would have been if they didnt have that power edge calling card that generation. That and online play were the two factors that led the momentum into the next gen.
One X versus Ps4 pro? That shit is on Don Matrick. He fucked them for a generation. Hardware is important to the degree the public doesnt realize it's shit and it plays good games. Your average joe smoe doesnt care that ps4 pro embodies the '2 of the previous consoles ducktaped together' trope almost as much as the Wii. Yep, that Cerny magic helped that lazily designed console sure rum quiet and cool...oh wait