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[Mitsuda Maniac]

People really think MS is in a unique position to offer streaming services once that becomes the most popular way to game? This isn't like Netflix where they were the only ones in a prime position to offer the service and everyone else was playing catch up. Sony has readied themselves to take that step once the existing model is not as profitable.

 

[Kokoloko85]

I’m actually perplexed by Halo Infinite going free to play. You’d think they’d want it to be a carrot for keeping people within gamepass. I have no idea what Craig Spencer’s strategy is any longer, it’s all over the place.

Gamepass is definitely incompatible with Sony AAA style games which can be finished without turning a buck during gameplay. It would do no good for plebs to buy one month of gamepass, finish a new blockbuster, and check out till the next one drops.

Maybe Halo Infinite and other games since gamepass, still sell enough digital and physical copies outside of gamepass to make a good amount of money?

Im guessing there are still alot of Xbox and PC owners who aren’t on gamepass but still want to purchase Halo/Gears or any other MS studio or 2nd party titles.

Be interesting to see all the numbers And profits

 

[DeepEnigma]

How many different ways does the man have to say they want to sell games and services more than consoles?

I remember back in 2013-2016 you were shouted at being a "conspiracy theorist" for this, now those same people have come to terms with the writing that has been on the wall.

 

[MasterCornholio]

How many different ways does the man have to say they want to sell games and services more than consoles?

Doesn't selling consoles help sell games and services?

 

[Shmunter]

Maybe Halo Infinite and other games since gamepass, still sell enough digital and physical copies outside of gamepass to make a good amount of money?

Im guessing there are still alot of Xbox and PC owners who aren’t on gamepass but still want to purchase Halo/Gears or any other MS studio or 2nd party titles.

Be interesting to see all the numbers And profits

But the Halo multi is f2p, so there’s no purchasing needed. The release is working against their strategy on all levels.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Im not the type to spread in ap

Doesn't selling consoles help sell games and services?

Not if your games are on more than just consoles. But yes, I'm sure it helps.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Not if your games are on more than just consoles. But yes, I'm sure it helps.

Of course it does. People need hardware to access those games and services. The console can be a good entry point for many. Not everyone is going to access them using smartphones and basic PCs.

 

[Klayzer]

That’s why a pivot to GaaS is part of the strategy. The games will need to sustain themselves at some point.

Excellent point! Have the games pay for themselves over a period of time. The question is, how many games will that strategy work for. History has shown people will only pay for a select few titles with that model.

 

[Kerotan]

Well, who would by X1S when X1X was that cheap.

And now that it's finished the xbox isn't enticing enough at its current price point unlike the ps4. 17k it sold vs 150k for the ps4.

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

Just leave the console business then.

 

[Klayzer]

I remember back in 2013-2016 you were shouted at being a "conspiracy theorist" for this, now those same people have come to terms with the writing that has been on the wall.

Lol. Poor DanielM. He paid the ultimate price for exposing Xbox's future strategy. The prophet got banned for his beliefs. Just joking mods

 

[danielJackson]

Same as I would say: having sex with super models is not my approach.

As in, it would never happen anyway, just like selling as many xboxs as ps5/switch will not happen anyway

 

[NickFire]

They are releasing the most powerful console in history, and a weaker version to get as many people in their eco-system as possible. Ultimately they are focused on profit, but claiming they aren't trying to sell the most consoles (and expand their customer base) is just pr for "we will claim victory no matter what."

 

[El Sueño]

Sony is prepared in the streaming front too. If they want, they could take 5 or more generations of exclusives (ps1-2-3-4-vita-psp) to psnow only (when consoles ceased to exist). MS has given Sony too much adventage.

 

[DarkMage619]

Of course it does. People need hardware to access those games and services. The console can be a good entry point for many. Not everyone is going to access them using smartphones and basic PCs.

Then maybe MS should make some consoles! Oh wait...

 

[MasterCornholio]

They maybe MS should make some consoles! Oh wait...

No not just make consoles but care about how they sell more.

 

[Vawn]

They maybe MS should make some consoles! Oh wait...

The point is they make those consoles because they WANT to sell them.

 

[mckmas8808]

Xbox Boss: Our Approach Isn't About Selling More Consoles Than PS5

"It is a fundamental difference than the traditional console war"

www.purexbox.com

This is all lies!!! LOL! Phil doesn't even believe what he's saying.

 

[DarkMage619]

The point is they make those consoles because they WANT to sell them.

PLEASE show me ONE quote where Phil or anyone else at Xbox said they DO NOT want to sell consoles.

 

[Craig of War]

People really think MS is in a unique position to offer streaming services once that becomes the most popular way to game? This isn't like Netflix where they were the only ones in a prime position to offer the service and everyone else was playing catch up. Sony has readied themselves to take that step once the existing model is not as profitable.

Yeah but it can't hurt to start going all in now i mean Gamepass has 10 million plus subs and growing pretty quickly and if they keep the same pace they are at now which is 10 million subscribers in a little more than 3 years time than by the end of next gen they will have 30-40 million plus gamepass subscribers do you see where this is going the potential is enormous if they play their cards right by the end of the PS5 and XSX life they will become the Nextflix of gaming wile PS Now will still be playing catch up.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

PLEASE show me ONE quote where Phil or anyone else at Xbox said they DO NOT want to sell consoles.

If they don't care about how much they sell, by definition they do not want to sell consoles. Consoles are sold at a near loss and it is hard to do. If you don't care about how many you sell then why sell at all?

 

[UltimaKilo]

They need to place xCloud on the Switch then. They would make so much money...

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

They need to place xCloud on the Switch then. They would make so much money...

Once upon a time, Microsoft was a great supplier of third party games. I mean no ill will towards Xbox, but I genuinely believe Microsoft would be able to make better games if they didn't have to make a console as well.

 

[UltimaKilo]

Once upon a time, Microsoft was a great supplier of third party games. I mean no ill will towards Xbox, but I genuinely believe Microsoft would be able to make better games if they didn't have to make a console as well.

One thing has nothing to do with the other. The people who R&D and engineer consoles have nothing to do with their developers. By that logic, you would argue Microsoft should discontinue making laptops, video games and cloud services and focus only on Windows.