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The point was directly above what you selectively quoted. Read it again maybe.
Saying 'what if he broke his nose' then 'what if he does it again' are two separate points entirely.
The point was directly above what you selectively quoted. Read it again maybe.
To take legal action against your brother, over a childish bitchy dispute about who gets to use the TV? Yeah, it would have to be a more common occurrence or a much more serious attack for me to consider potentially fucking up my brother's future and putting unnecessary strain and stress on my immediate family. Are you kidding? There are some whiny fucks in here. That his immediate reaction is to consider going to the police and posting a thread on NeoGAF rather than talk to his brother like an adult and figure out the real cause is beyond pathetic. Dude is 31 not 12.
I bet he cried too.
Saying 'what if he broke his nose' then 'what if he does it again' are two separate points entirely.
Of course it's not binary. The 10% not-getting-along part is unknown in the details. Do they verbally abuse each others in those times (or is it one-sided)? Or do they just glare sullenly and ignore each others? Something in-between? We don't know that part and it really depends. If it's the former, it's an indication that there's a deeper problem, but not necessarily if it's the latter.
As for "any relationship" though, I disagree. I can't say that about my family or my SO or friends at all.
Not in regards to the point I am making about people downplaying the significance of this encounter. He got punched and people are just saying "oh brothers fight w/e". If he was actually really injured from that punch people wouldn't downplay the point. That's why I hightlighted this.
29 years old is not a fucking child. You don't need second chances to not assault your brother.
My overarching point was brother man should peace out before something happens. One time occurence is only a one time occurence until its not. A punch is a punch. People should treat it as such.
Not a direct response to you. You're response to remove yourself from the situation is the correct initial response. Other people are agreeing that he should go to the cops.
But he wasn't injured. Of course people's reactions would be different if he had a broken jaw or nose. But all he got was a couple of bruises. The level of injury absolutely makes a difference, as does the fact that it's a family member. I don't understand how you can act like it doesn't.
But he wasn't injured. Of course people's reactions would be different if he had a broken jaw or nose. But all he got was a couple of bruises. The level of injury absolutely makes a difference, as does the fact that it's a family member. I don't understand how you can act like it doesn't.
The whole point is that he was physically attacked by another human being. Them being family changes the dynamic of the situation but it doesn't make it any less serious. If there were broken bones, yes, of course, that makes it worse. But you don't overlook it because it was just "a couple of bruises". This is nonsensical.
I never said to overlook it.
I never said to overlook it.
Your response to my post sayinh OP should peace out was "what if he threw a brick"
You seriously playing this "I am not saying overlook it" shit? Really?
That was in response to your pointless hypotheticals. But feel free to check out my previous posts on this thread, where I've continually said he needs to talk to his brother about t and moving out/asking him to move out is an option if things can't be salvaged.
Yes because the hypothetical was the real important point of that post 🙄 Very genuine of you.
I know of absolutely zero family relationships where the people are cool with each other 100% of the time. And literally everyone is a dick sometimes. 90% is about the best you're going to get. And a year isn't the only amount of time these two have spent together. He said that it was the first fight they've had in his thirty years with him. A lot of which I assume he had to spend with him when they were young, which means in thirty years, this dudes anger boiled over once. There's no way you can frame that to make him look like some person who is unhinged.
I don't know how you could claim that his brother seems like an asshole with anger issues when they've had one violent spat in thirty years and get along the vast majority of the time. This whole thing seems very much like an isolated incident.
Yeah, this is silly.Ermmm, from my experience, brothers do fight. But its up to you if you want to file charges or not.
If it was my brother, I would just not talk to him for a year or two and see where that get us, but filing is a bit too much when it comes to siblings fight.
I think dude should find a new living arrangement. You should feel safe and secure in your house. You should never have to worry about getting punched in the face. All I would do is tell my brother "yo, I dunno what the fuck your problem is but punching me in the face is not going to be tolerated. I'm out, find a new roommate. Peace"
So because he was not injured it's fine? Okay got it.
This.
Here's a story. A true story:
My brother and I are 1 year apart (I'm older).
When we were 17/18, the day before Thanksgiving, we got into a petty argument (such as OPs) which quickly escalated into a mini-scuffle, and I ended up body slammed with a severely broken neck. I broke my c2, c4 and c5 bones in my vertebrae, and was pretty much a sneeze away from death and/or full paralysis. I had to wear a halo-brace for months, the whole 9-yards. It was bad, but luckily I made it through with only some lingering pain/discomfort. But back to the moment it happened:
Immediately after the slam, my brother freaked out, ran to get my mom and took off on his bike crying his heart out, because he thought he'd killed me. (On impact, I fell immediately unconscious). My mom's a nurse and quickly called an ambulance. Naturally the police followed. As the paramedics are checking me out, the police is there harassing my mom to give up my brother. What's his name? His age? Does he live here? Where'd he go? She's telling them to fuck off, I'm trying to attend to my injured son (in nicer terms, of course), but his main intent is to take my brother to jail so he could have a permanent record of assault. He then disregarded my mom and asked ME if I want to press charges. I give him the look of "bitch, please" and say NO, and he had a look of bewilderment on his face, and continued to ask, as though I wasn't cognizant enough to make that decision.
The paramedic eventually gestured to my mom to come chat on the side, and told her that we don't have to take that from the cop and can file a complaint. The cop gave zero fucks about whether I was okay or not, he didn't even acknowledge me outside of "will you be pressing charges?". Now, admittedly, nobody knew I had a broken neck at that point since it had just happened and I hadn't gone to the hospital for any x-rays yet, but still. Zero compassion, just good ol' "who can I take to jail lulz"
Was it a shitty situation that neither of us wish had happened? Sure, but imagine if I would have out of vengeful spite over an argument about a fucking baseball cap, turned him in to this slap-happy cop, pressed charges and put him in jail. The severity of the injury would have for sure meant prison and a life-long record, ensuring he'd never get a job. It would have ruined our relationship, ruined my mother, ruined my brother's life and that of his son (my nephew) and in many ways, my own. According to half of you in this thread, I would've felt amazing afterwards, having justice served. My brother and I are basically best friends, although we did argue a lot, as brothers do, and I'd die before I give the fucking -police- authority over family matters.
Over 10 years later, I'll be 30 next month and he'll be 29 and we're still the best of friends. Funny enough, we don't argue much anymore lol, but I also don't look at him like some unhinged homicidal maniac CRIMINAL out to get some killz because he's psychologically damaged and needs the police to step in and 'fix' him. All for a one-time mistake. Some of you people are savage as fuck, and even at the threat of "calling the police" for some petty shit like this, I'd disown and never speak to you again.
Not every 29 and 31 years old is like every other 29 and 31 years old though. Sure, most of us by those ages don't get involved in brawls like teenagers do, especially over a TV, but this topic is living proof some do. That's my point. Not to patronise the OP, but a situation like this is best approached in the same ways you would younger siblings. Which means it might not be the best case to treat it like an episode of Law and Order.
I'm pretty certain the hits and/or bruises will be similar to those thrown/achieved by teenage brothers. I mean, if the OP posts pics and it's like his face looks rearranged, okay, a bit more serious. I never said it's okay, it's not, but given the info we have to go on, where the OP made it clear it's the first time it's happened in a year of living together, it's more like children brawling. You do not send children or teens to jail for fighting over a TV or games console.
Guessing a bit because of detail-lite, but I still think what I said on the previous page about tensions/incompatibilities and unresolved frustrations building up over a year resulted in this. At the best of times, brothers and sisters as well do not want to be living together into the 30s, even if it's often a necessity in modern era life.
The paramedic eventually gestured to my mom to come chat on the side, and told her that we don't have to take that from the cop and can file a complaint. The cop gave zero fucks about whether I was okay or not, he didn't even acknowledge me outside of "will you be pressing charges?". Now, admittedly, nobody knew I had a broken neck at that point since it had just happened and I hadn't gone to the hospital for any x-rays yet, but still. Zero compassion, just good ol' "who can I take to jail lulz"
Was it a shitty situation that neither of us wish had happened? Sure, but imagine if I would have out of vengeful spite over an argument about a fucking baseball cap, turned him in to this slap-happy cop, pressed charges and put him in jail. The severity of the injury would have for sure meant prison and a life-long record, ensuring he'd never get a job. It would have ruined our relationship, ruined my mother, ruined my brother's life and that of his son (my nephew) and in many ways, my own. According to half of you in this thread, I would've felt amazing afterwards, having justice served. My brother and I are basically best friends, although we did argue a lot, as brothers do, and I'd die before I give the fucking -police- authority over family matters.
Over 10 years later, I'll be 30 next month and he'll be 29 and we're still the best of friends. Funny enough, we don't argue much anymore lol, but I also don't look at him like some unhinged homicidal maniac CRIMINAL out to get some killz because he's psychologically damaged and needs the police to step in and 'fix' him. All for a one-time mistake. Some of you people are savage as fuck, and even at the threat of "calling the police" for some petty shit like this, I'd disown and never speak to you again.
I hate seeing cops most of the time for these reasons. They are so lost in the idea of people and yeah it sucks that happened but most the time it wasn't done purposely.Good post. Crazy shit there man; glad you're okay and the two of you are still tight.
Good post. Crazy shit there man; glad you're okay and the two of you are still tight.
Great post above me, agree 100 percent.
The witch hunt out to ruins this guys brothers life is very petty and insane.
Brothers fight, but when the chips are down. That is your blood right there. He will always be your blood, dont throw everything away over a small fight.
I hate seeing cops most of the time for these reasons. They are so lost in the idea of people and yeah it sucks that happened but most the time it wasn't done purposely.
I don't believe this extends to just immediate family but all people though, why not
So because he was not injured it's fine? Okay got it.
The whole point is that he was physically attacked by another human being. Them being family changes the dynamic of the situation but it doesn't make it any less serious. If there were broken bones, yes, of course, that makes it worse. But you don't overlook it because it was just "a couple of bruises". This is nonsensical.
Really the only thing to do is go on a cruise.
Yet both of you guys are handwaving the pillow throw that started the whole thing because... well its a pillow. So whether you want to admit it or not you draw a line somewhere as to what is excessive.
And like someone else pointed out earlier, we probably have different images in our heads as to what actually happened. Given that this whole thing seems so petty and childish, I'm guessing these were pretty tame "punches" and the OP was just being dramatic in the moment. I doesn't seem like he felt threatened in any way.
after you disown them, if they break your neck again, you'd still be bros tho?Some of you people are savage as fuck, and even at the threat of "calling the police" for some petty shit like this, I'd disown and never speak to you again.
Sure we have different images in our heads. That's understandable. And of course there is a line drawn as to what is excessive. That's common sense.
Can we understand why someone would throw a pillow in frustration? Probably. Is it childish? Most certainly. Is attacking in retaliation in the form of multiple punches justified? Most certainly not. Throwing a pillow at someone is one thing. What followed is something quite different and certainly not proportional or anywhere near the same level of aggression. It's a huge overreaction. Added to the fact that the OP has stated that he has been bruised as a result of it.
after you disown them, if they break your neck again, you'd still be bros tho?
Sure we have different images in our heads. That's understandable. And of course there is a line drawn as to what is excessive. That's common sense.
Can we understand why someone would throw a pillow in frustration? Probably. Is it childish? Most certainly. Is attacking in retaliation in the form of multiple punches justified? Most certainly not. Throwing a pillow at someone is one thing. What followed is something quite different and certainly not proportional or anywhere near the same level of aggression. It's a huge overreaction. Added to the fact that the OP has stated that he has been bruised as a result of it.
Yet both of you guys are handwaving the pillow throw that started the whole thing because... well its a pillow. So whether you want to admit it or not you draw a line somewhere as to what is excessive.
Yes. Because being hit with a pillow and heing punched in the back and the face are comparable.
1st bold: You seem to demonize him completely in, you do realize its his job to ask you if you want to press charges right? Also there are many cases of frequent assaults among family members being suppressed and not going to law simply because family. Why should he believe that its a one time thing while you are laying in a hospital bed?
2nd bold: Half the people in this thread did not say or even imply this BS.
Also it should be noted you have a significant age difference of about a decade from the OP, when people should fully understand and be aware of consequences. Do it sucks that some consequences ruin your life? Sure as hell, then advocate for lessening sentencing if you agree with that. Heat of passion and accidents do not change the results of what someone's action did. It also does not change the fact that things like this can kill or have life-altering/life-ruining results, so why shouldn't they be responsible for that possibility?
Well if you can't remember if you were punched in the back or chest, it may as well have been a pillow I would think.
I do not exactly think that his brother was trying to exactly go for the ground and pound submission.
I was joking about how you think calling the police on your family is worse than almost getting killed by one.Re-read what you wrote, then ask yourself if the sentence makes any sense.
Don't trust OP's in this situation. This one said he was hit four times in the back, then changed it to the chest, and when questioned clammed up.
Wow this thread blew up overnight
It was the back since I was walking away. That was a typo.
Also to everyone saying we are like children fighting over TV time we SHARE it like normal people as its the only TV in the lounge room and PS4.
I think the reason he went into berserker rage was because after me pestering two or three times him for my turn he was playing he was playing For Honor and he apparently needs 100% concentration for those types of pvp games and if I or anyone asks him something while playing some intense battle he yells not right now! Or ask me a minute later.
I guess tossing that soft pillow at his back to distract and annoy him fucked up his momentum and he lost the round or something.
And as for me throwing my hands up in the air not to defend myself when I was walking away as I heard him get up and start stomping, chasing after me, its because he goes to gym and I dont. I cant take him in a fight and I guess I thought doing that would give me the legal high ground (cue starwars meme, aaaaand maybe better call saul)
Also I half own the house with my parents as we bought it togeather. He is just a guest or unofficial tenant or whatever.
He also hasn't even apologized and blocked my number and facebook.
Wow this thread blew up overnight
It was the back since I was walking away. That was a typo.
Also to everyone saying we are like children fighting over TV time we SHARE it like normal people as its the only TV in the lounge room and PS4.
I think the reason he went into berserker rage was because after me pestering two or three times him for my turn he was playing he was playing For Honor and he apparently needs 100% concentration for those types of pvp games and if I or anyone asks him something while playing some intense battle he yells not right now! Or ask me a minute later.
I guess tossing that soft pillow at his back to distract and annoy him fucked up his momentum and he lost the round or something.
And as for me throwing my hands up in the air not to defend myself when I was walking away as I heard him get up and start stomping, chasing after me, its because he goes to gym and I dont. I cant take him in a fight and I guess I thought doing that would give me the legal high ground (cue starwars meme, aaaaand maybe better call saul)
Also I half own the house with my parents as we bought it togeather. He is just a guest or unofficial tenant or whatever.
He also hasn't even apologized and blocked my number and facebook.
Wow this thread blew up overnight
It was the back since I was walking away. That was a typo.
Also to everyone saying we are like children fighting over TV time we SHARE it like normal people as its the only TV in the lounge room and PS4.
I think the reason he went into berserker rage was because after me pestering two or three times him for my turn he was playing he was playing For Honor and he apparently needs 100% concentration for those types of pvp games and if I or anyone asks him something while playing some intense battle he yells not right now! Or ask me a minute later.
I guess tossing that soft pillow at his back to distract and annoy him fucked up his momentum and he lost the round or something.
And as for me throwing my hands up in the air not to defend myself when I was walking away as I heard him get up and start stomping, chasing after me, its because he goes to gym and I dont. I cant take him in a fight and I guess I thought doing that would give me the legal high ground (cue starwars meme, aaaaand maybe better call saul)
Also I half own the house with my parents as we bought it togeather. He is just a guest or unofficial tenant or whatever.
He also hasn't even apologized and blocked my number and facebook.
Also I half own the house with my parents as we bought it togeather. He is just a guest or unofficial tenant or whatever.
Im 31 and he is 29 and we live together in our own small house.
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My mum who had came to visit that day saw the last of the assault being my face getting cracked and I have pictures of the bruises to my back.