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Physically assaulted and wondering about what to do next

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What the hell kind of 30 year old person starts throwing pillows over TV time and then goes to GAF to vent and ask for advice?

I mean..the pillow thing really isn't that big of a deal....but punching someone repeatedly for that? THese two things aren't even on the same ballpark
 
I'm starting to realize that the OP wants his brother out of the appartment but doesn't know how to talk. And that he is more comfortable with pressing charges than actually sitting down to talk it over about moving out

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Don't call the cops unless you have to. Only people who have never been involved with the police in any real capacity will ever think that's an option in anything other than a last resort situation. Calling them over what seeminglu amounts to a pissy slap fight over the remote with your little brother seems extreme unless you legitimately feel you are in danger, which judging by your posts you seem more pissed off at him than anything else.

But hey, you be you man. Just know that calling the cops and having your brother thrown behind bars with a violent charge permanently on his record every time he looks for work is something you will never be able to take back. I don't know the situation, I don't know you, I don't know your brother, but just know that if it's something you feel you have the possibility to work out with him by talking to him, *and* you still value having any kind of relationship with him other than testifying against him in court, I would not call the cops.
 
Am I the only person that sees the brothers actions as a 'final straw' type thing? Like he's had years of something he can't abide (maybe the OPs behavior), years of pent up frustration and finally snaps, finally is driven to the point of aggression by getting a pillow in the back. For all we know OP has been mentally abusing his brother for years, lording it over him with his TV and ps4.

One side of the story as ever GAF, hilarious everyone siding with the OP.
 
I mean..the pillow thing really isn't that big of a deal....but punching someone repeatedly for that? THese two things aren't even on the same ballpark

Sure if you believe the OP 100%.

But again this is a 30 yo who got so frustrated that he couldnt play with his toys he threw something.

And then ran to the internet asking what he should do.

I'm not sure I buy the sweet guy asking politely to use the tv story. Plus I'm fairly certain if you're getting punched very hard you'd involuntarily defend yourself, not be running through scenarios of how to properly claim assault.
 
I always thought Aussie-rules brother to brother conflict resolution typically involved locking the offender in a room with a rabid koala for 30 minutes. No?

Nah mate, Aussie bros fight then shake hands then become best mates at the local bar over a pint of beer. All in the same day of events. Any Aussie knows this, it's in the Aussie rules book you're given at birth or microscopically embroidered in our flag.
 
Technically throwing a pillow is an act of physical assault that you initiated. next time if you decide to initiate aggression go with something heavier?
 
Am I the only person that sees the brothers actions as a 'final straw' type thing? Like he's had years of something he can't abide (maybe the OPs behavior), years of pent up frustration and finally snaps, finally is driven to the point of aggression by getting a pillow in the back. For all we know OP has been mentally abusing his brother for years, lording it over him with his TV and ps4.

One side of the story as ever GAF, hilarious everyone siding with the OP.

Plus the way he's describing the incident like I would have done when I got in a spat with my sister when we were children makes me suspect.

"But I only threw a soft pillow and he hit me really hard!"

I mean these are 2 fucking adults here.
 
I mean..the pillow thing really isn't that big of a deal....but punching someone repeatedly for that? THese two things aren't even on the same ballpark

Seems the pillow might have triggered his fight or flight response.

It's all stupid shit anyway, but the brother clearly has some anger issues and if he reacts in such a way over a TV and pillow, it's probably time to re-evaluate your living arrangements.
 
In addition to my previous post I say don't file charges and just live separately. Both of y'all have problems. You can't have a temper so short and start throwing things at someone because you can't play your game. Sorry f i sounded a bit harsh OP.
 
Sure if you believe the OP 100%.

But again this is a 30 yo who got so frustrated that he couldnt play with his toys he threw something.

And then ran to the internet asking what he should do.

I'm not sure I buy the sweet guy asking politely to use the tv story. Plus I'm fairly certain if you're getting punched very hard you'd involuntarily defend yourself, not be running through scenarios of how to properly claim assault.

This sums up this thread. This line in the OP struck me as really, really weird, and I'm surprised it hasn't been more quoted here:

...punched me in the back hard four or five times and once in the face all while I had my hands up in the air not defending myself at all because if I did that it would've been a fight and this was now an assault..

That doesn't make any sense. That line is someone trying, after the fact, to spin a narrative around what happened. If you're getting punched you're going to try to defend yourself, you're not going to throw your hands up in the air to make sure you have an ironclad case for assault, particularity not if it's your brother doing the punching.

The entire OP reads pretty weird, but that line stands out as the weirdest. There's a lot about this situation we don't know.
 
I'm trying to get to the bottom of why the younger brother wailed on him after being hit with a pillow but it's really hard.

Some people do just become mentally unbalanced over the years, either through drug use or just "naturally" through time. I'm not saying this is what has happened in this exact situation, but speaking from experience, a family member can turn on a dime and be abusive (physically and verbally) for a number of reasons. I wouldn't be shocked if the OP wasn't omitting anything from this situation.

That doesn't make any sense. That line is someone trying, after the fact, to spin a narrative around what happened. If you're getting punched you're going to try to defend yourself, you're not going to throw your hands up in the air to make sure you have an ironclad case for assault, particularity not if it's your brother doing the punching.

To the bolded, I can tell you now - Hell fucking no! I've been beaten by a family member before, and I can tell you that past the first two or three beatings, I just ended-up curling up in a ball to protect the important parts of my body.

The OP may be spinning a narrative, or outright lying, but let's not assume people's actions in a fight, please.
 
beat his ass if your brother is brave enough to toss a punch he is brave enough to get one back. Also make sure you take the tv and ps4 and clame them as yours and then divide up the house using duct tape and tell him to stay on his side.
 
Cringing so hard at this thread. You man are in your 30s and fighting over games? I'm literally picturing 2 robin William looking dudes being like "cmon John......mom said it was my tuuuuuuuurn 12 minutes ago"

And you both live alone but your mom just happened to show up at the right time to break up the fight? Be honest OP. Y'all both still living at home with momma.

And regarding the attsck, don't start none won't be none. Your ass wouldn't have got clapped if you didn't throw the pillow
 
I'd talk to your brother about this. I don't recommend involving the police in this kind of thing unless you feel he is a continued threat to your safety and others. If you just don't like living with him, talk about the desire for you two to live apart.

Pillows can be pretty deadly.

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I won't speak on whether or not you should press charges; there's a lot of missing information about you and your brother's history. However since you seem to not want to fight your brother I suggest you take your TV back, and don't share shit with him again, unless you want to get your ass beat.
 
You need to sit him down and have a real hard talk with him. I was always the more quick to anger between me and my bro. He is my older brother but I remember punching him on the back and on the arm on a couple of different occassions. My anger spilled over but I didn't want to hit him in a place that would hurt him too much...I was an idiot. We get on amazingly anyway, and are beyond that kind of crap now.

I think the relationship, if you generally get on well, is exceptionally important. However, your brother acting like that, he needs to get some councilling for his anger. Get him to commit to it. That will be some degree of restitution.

FreeMufasa: The situation is definitely a bit immature. But better to be constructive than be a dick. Shows you are pretty immature.
 
It's time for you guys to separate living wise.
Man this sounds just like some ish word for word outta my life.

And y'all need to man up and apologize to each other.
 
I have had my own share of fights with my brothers... when we were teenagers...

29 and 31 over a TV? I don't know man...

and you want to call the cops on your brother over that too to get back to him. You guys sound like sitcom characters.
 
Aside from the immature hilarity of the argument..

Sounds like your brother is a prick. Sounds like you guys gotta separate and you shouldn't press charges unless he consistently abuses you and deserves it. Next time I think you should fight back too. Don't just take punches.
 
Cringing so hard at this thread. You man are in your 30s and fighting over games? I'm literally picturing 2 robin William looking dudes being like "cmon John......mom said it was my tuuuuuuuurn 12 minutes ago"

And you both live alone but your mom just happened to show up at the right time to break up the fight? Be honest OP. Y'all both still living at home with momma.

And regarding the attsck, don't start none won't be none. Your ass wouldn't have got clapped if you didn't throw the pillow

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Were you also smiling when it happened? I don't know anyone who gets punched and then the first thing that pops into their head is "I shouldn't fight back or even defend myself, so I can press charges". With a sibling of all people. That's not really a survival instinct.
 
The relationship with your brother doesn't sound healthy at all. I was actually reminded of the fights my brother and I had as 12 year old children. Perhaps you two should go see a psychologist and see what's the problem here.
 
All this over who gets to use the TV? I think the both of you have a lot of growing up to do. That, or just buy a second TV
 
That doesn't make any sense. That line is someone trying, after the fact, to spin a narrative around what happened. If you're getting punched you're going to try to defend yourself, you're not going to throw your hands up in the air to make sure you have an ironclad case for assault, particularity not if it's your brother doing the punching.

The entire OP reads pretty weird, but that line stands out as the weirdest. There's a lot about this situation we don't know.

Seriously, who the hell would think "better not put my arms up so that my assault case is solid"?
It's also not true, it's still assault no matter if you defend or not. Unless you want to push the angle into abuse and want more damage done to show off later for pity points.

Technically OP started it with the pillow anyway though. The brother would just be in for a response that's out of bound due to mildness of the initial attack.
 
1. I think It's unacceptable for a grown man to use excessive violence against another grown man - and i'm of course not talking about the pillow

2. I do believe though, that in the context of this being a family member, pressing charges is something i wouldn't do. You're giving your brother(!) a criminal record.
- which doesn't mean there shouldn't be any consequences. One of those consequences should certainly be the two of you dissolving your living arrangement.
However, I don't think it's an absurd concept to treat family different to some random stranger given otherwise similar circumstances. I wouldn't immediately press charges on my brother, i would on a stranger. I'd loan my brother 100$, no questions asked, i wouldn't do that to a stranger.

3. I'm not sure we're getting the full story here. i feel like while OP states "I suggested how about an hour later and he said no again. I sarcastically reminded him that I technically own the PS4 and TV", i could imagine the actual wording having been much more provocative.
I have a hard time believing that those punches were simply an overreaction to being assaulted with a 'soft pillow'. Which is not to say that OP isn't the victim here or he's being at fault, or 'deserved' the physical assault. I just feel like we're not getting the whole story. I feel - like so often in these threads - we're being drip fed a very specific version of the story, because you're looking for validation, not advice.

4. I don't know how to feel about the "i intentionally threw my hands in the air, as to not make it a fight, but for the purpose of keeping it a case of 'assault' ". There's some very plausible theories in this thread already, though :/


My suggestion: Don't press charges. One of you should move out. If that's not feasible, move the PS4 to the room of the PS4's owner, and the TV to the room of the TV's owner. If the two of you are unable to share, this will eliminate further fights over such silly things.
 
Plus don't buy the had no defense at all to someone throwing punches to your face . Every human instinctively reacts to it .
 
I don't know, something here seems off to me. If he's a constant danger than yeah, but being frank, as the oldest of three sibblings I wouldn't involve the police over one unjustified fight (and the OP says this lash out is unusual and not common). Then again I get along with my sibblings and we literally have not had a physical fight since our teens.

But having sibblings and hearing from the OP this isn't what his brother usually does, it sounds like there was vent up issues and this was not about the TV at all but he was already really upset with the OP over something. Added to this some of the things mentioned and said raise a few flags to me as someone who's done the sibbling fighting rodeo a few times. Also the OP like highlights comments that justify and put him in the right, he's heated and that's understandable, but I feel the focus on justifying his position is covering something that's being left out. It's a common angry-at-sibbling tactic even if you're in the right but maybe not completely innocent train but want to 'win' the fight by going the high road. I feel there's more to this story and we're only hearing one person's side of it.

And the fact the OP would rather press charges as an excuse to get him to move out rather than talk to his brother about it or set his foot down on this is sending alarms off to me there's a LOT more here than is being said.

Also I'm going to guess a lot of people talking about pressing charges for the first fight you've had with a sibbling in ages don't have sibblings. I'm not saying fighting is good or it's justified, but this sounds like a childish outburst between sibblings than violent intent to me. The brother is in the wrong, but as an older brother I wouldn't call the police over one fight with my own brother. If my brother was prone to violence, then yeah, but not over a single incident. I also am guessing there's pent up tension here from them being adult brothers who are also roommates as both can have the potential to drive someone crazy if certain things aren't worked out, and judging by the OP's talking I'm guessing this fight wasn't really about the TV, and the OP isn't as wash his hands free from this as he's presenting himself. It sounds like the fight occured due to both of them having rising tension and anger with each other they can't talk or figure out for some reason.
 
I wanna see pictures of the bruises, did he even hit you hard enough to leave a mark? Sounds like a sibling squabble between children.
 
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