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Place your bets: Age of Ultron vs The Force Awakens
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Triggerhappytel
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The teaser for The Force Awakens looked great, but honestly at this point Star Wars is such an unknown quantity, and Abrams' last film looked good on the surface but when you begin to analyse it at all it was a hot mess. I just hope The Force Awakens is more logical and cohesive, although I have to admit that he had the space adventure style locked down pretty well with those two films.
On the other hand I'm amazed at what a well-oiled machine Marvel has become; they've done a really good job of getting the right creative folk in charge and I thought The Avengers was excellent, so I'm confident Whedon will knock it out of the park again.
On the other hand I'm amazed at what a well-oiled machine Marvel has become; they've done a really good job of getting the right creative folk in charge and I thought The Avengers was excellent, so I'm confident Whedon will knock it out of the park again.
Avengers is one of my least favorite Marvel movies, and even though they've seemingly added some non-lethally boring villainous forces to the cast this time I doubt it will be a great movie. Star Wars almost certainly better considering the efforts the producers are making. Abrams is not really all that important to whether the movie works or not.
At the box office? I'll go with Star Wars, though Avengers will undoubtedly make dirty money globally.
At the box office? I'll go with Star Wars, though Avengers will undoubtedly make dirty money globally.
Escape Goat
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JJ Abrams already made 2 good Star Wars films and called them Start Trek by mistake. It'll be decent to good quality.
Bobby Roberts
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Which movie do you think will make the most money? The Force Awakens
Which movie do you think will be the better film? The Force Awakens
If they were both released on the same day, which would you go see first? The Force Awakens
Do you think there is any other 2015 film that will remotely come close to the money these will make? Or maybe even a video game? No
Which are you more excited about being in Kingdom Hearts? I have never cared about Kingdom Hearts, although I've been told I should. I have two big blind spots when it comes to gaming: FPS and RPG. I suck at FPS and I get irrationally impatient with RPGs. There are exceptions to both, and Kingdom Hearts seems like it should have been one of those exceptions, but nope.
Which movie do you think will be the better film? The Force Awakens
If they were both released on the same day, which would you go see first? The Force Awakens
Do you think there is any other 2015 film that will remotely come close to the money these will make? Or maybe even a video game? No
Which are you more excited about being in Kingdom Hearts? I have never cared about Kingdom Hearts, although I've been told I should. I have two big blind spots when it comes to gaming: FPS and RPG. I suck at FPS and I get irrationally impatient with RPGs. There are exceptions to both, and Kingdom Hearts seems like it should have been one of those exceptions, but nope.
Pai Pai Master
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Star Wars or Star Trek, it's a stretch to call Into Darkness a good film.
Biggest issue with that film was the script, not the directing. Lawrence Kasdan is writing Force Awakens I am pretty sure his track record is a bit above Orci & Kurtzman.
Avengers for all 5 Qs, but I really don't give a shit about JRPGs like KH.
Marvel puts out great movies. I have no doubts AoU will be amazing, but I think Star Wars may end up being just as good.
As for who will "win"? I'd give Avengers the slight nod. The MCU is just a more proven, current commodity right now. Star Wars will still do great.
Disney stay winning.
Marvel puts out great movies. I have no doubts AoU will be amazing, but I think Star Wars may end up being just as good.
As for who will "win"? I'd give Avengers the slight nod. The MCU is just a more proven, current commodity right now. Star Wars will still do great.
Disney stay winning.
Not really. It may test one's patience for those wanting a Star Trek space adventure and not another "we're in Earth!" movie, but it's a really fun and well-made movie otherwise.
Sax Russel
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Right now I want to say Ultron, but the hype machine hasn't fully kicked in for SW yet.
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Can Crusher
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We livin in the Marvel age.
People underestimating that Star Wars draw. Star Wars hasn't had a new film in almost 10 years, and the new film happens to be a direct sequel to one of the most highly recognized trilogy's of all time. It's going to draw in old fans, young kids, current fans, and all walks of life who want to say that they "saw it."
Wiktor
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Which will come to an end once Force Awakens
Gambit 1138
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2008 wasn't ten years ago.
are you being serious right now?
OriginalThinking
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It's gonna depend on the quality of either movie. Repeat viewings will dictate box office performance. If the new SW film knocks it out of the park, I'd place my bets there. If it's a dog, then it's Marvel all the way. Either way Disney are going to be rolling in that cash.
Shining Sunshine
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Avengers has a bunch of great movies preceding it to hype it up.
Star Wars had three shit movies before it from a decade ago.
Star Wars had three shit movies before it from a decade ago.
Escape Goat
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Why cant we have both?
Can Crusher
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I think it will have to hit an acrobatic home run with the audiences, if it wants to become the biggest shit in town. I don't see the Marvel craze ending until Infinity War hits the ceiling.
Star wars doesn't have a global presence like marvel superhero movies. Avengers is going to do some crazy numbers.
Wiktor
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In cinemas? I doubt it. As big as Marvel is Star Wars will waltz all over it.
The same people who watch Marvel will watch Star Wars and then some. TFA is going to rival Avengers and it would be unsurprising if it was more successful:
Star Wars is strong domestically and internationally. The potential is there for Star Wars to be a mega movie event rivaling the biggest hits. It is a brand and a global pop culture hit that is like none other in theaters, and I think the same moviegoers that watch Iron Man 3 and Avatar will be interested in Ep7, and we have indicators like record-breaking trailer hits and billion dollar annual revenue to show how strong and unique the Star Wars brand is compared to even other blockbusters.
- No real competition other than Mission Impossible (so big opening weekend and long legs)
- Harrison Ford and Co. are icons themselves, and Disney will promote them right. Crystal Skull nearly had $500million from international crowds in 2008 and that's just from seeing Ford dressed as Jones on the big screen
- Disney Marvel machine
- Millennial moviegoers ("nerd" culture is pop culture especially at the movies, the same people who watch Avengers and Avatar will be seeing Star Wars)
- Record-breaking trailer hits
- $billion in revenue annually from merchandise without a blockbuster film since 2005
- Won't cannibalize theaters like AotC did with digital sound IIRC
- Already a pop culture sensation before the iPhone and globalized social media (it's a smaller world now)
Star Wars is strong domestically and internationally. The potential is there for Star Wars to be a mega movie event rivaling the biggest hits. It is a brand and a global pop culture hit that is like none other in theaters, and I think the same moviegoers that watch Iron Man 3 and Avatar will be interested in Ep7, and we have indicators like record-breaking trailer hits and billion dollar annual revenue to show how strong and unique the Star Wars brand is compared to even other blockbusters.
Episode III was preceded by two awful Star Wars movies, and it still made 850 million in 2005 (well over a billion adjusted for inflation).
Episode III was a sequel to the poorly received Attack of the Clone and The Phantom Menace and is a billion dollar level film. The Force Awakens is a sequel to Return of the Jedi with the return of Han, Luke, and Leia.
If Episode III did a billon+ worth of ticket sales...then The Force Awakens is looking at 1.5 bil, minimum.
Shining Sunshine
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Escape Goat
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I dont think JP will make the splash the original did. CGI is common place now. The plot will no doubt be a repeat. Unless they do a planet of the apes ending. Im sure itll be financially successful but it wont come near star wars or avengers.
This is quite literally the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.
"couldn't save Star Trek". Wow.
The point is even with awful films with characters no one likes Star Wars baseline is 1 billion. This on the other-hand has a lot more well liked characters and setting.
My gut tells me Star Wars and it's because of Avengers. Let me explain myself...
So Avengers wasn't big just because of Avengers. It was big because of the MCU build up to it. Avengers is like the finale to a five movies series with the big pay off at the end. I've loved everything we've gotten after but I don't feel it all feeds into eachother like the original movies did and considering how big Avengers was, it probably doesn't need too. If anything, Infinity War will be the next everything comes together and nukes the box office moment, imo. Ultron will do crazy money, don't get me wrong. it will do CRAZY money.
Star Wars, on the other hand, is a complete continuation of the saga. You have the old faces, the torch passing, no prequel stuff, the excitement is high. It's got that generational thing going for it and I think people are excited and will become more so as we move closer to it. We also have a population now trained by Potter. MCU, LOTR, etc. to not only be ready for a series of films but a series of interconnected films. So depending on how Star Wars fares, I think it can beat it. It's going to be the test bed for everyone's else's attempt at the MCU and if it's even feasible to go after it. DC and Warner Bros. better be watching closely.
So Avengers wasn't big just because of Avengers. It was big because of the MCU build up to it. Avengers is like the finale to a five movies series with the big pay off at the end. I've loved everything we've gotten after but I don't feel it all feeds into eachother like the original movies did and considering how big Avengers was, it probably doesn't need too. If anything, Infinity War will be the next everything comes together and nukes the box office moment, imo. Ultron will do crazy money, don't get me wrong. it will do CRAZY money.
Star Wars, on the other hand, is a complete continuation of the saga. You have the old faces, the torch passing, no prequel stuff, the excitement is high. It's got that generational thing going for it and I think people are excited and will become more so as we move closer to it. We also have a population now trained by Potter. MCU, LOTR, etc. to not only be ready for a series of films but a series of interconnected films. So depending on how Star Wars fares, I think it can beat it. It's going to be the test bed for everyone's else's attempt at the MCU and if it's even feasible to go after it. DC and Warner Bros. better be watching closely.
What a year for Disney, keep forgetting they've got two Pixar films coming in the same year as well.
This has been annoying me for a while. It's Furious 7, not Fast 7. It's not just you, but it is a pet peeve
NossEntertainment
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Both owned by Disney but Star Wars has a bigger budget and some serious legacy to live up to.
1. Star Wars, easily. There's a much bigger userbase. From small children to grandparents, everybody will want to watch the new Star Wars.
2. Probably Star Wars, but I don't really know tbh. Both movies will be very enjoyable to watch, but good and enjoyable aren't always the same thing. I really enjoyed GotG and The Winter Soldier, but wouldn't put them on any best-of lists.
3. Depends on which one my friends are going to see first.
4. Nope, Disney will basically rule the world at the end of this year.
2. Probably Star Wars, but I don't really know tbh. Both movies will be very enjoyable to watch, but good and enjoyable aren't always the same thing. I really enjoyed GotG and The Winter Soldier, but wouldn't put them on any best-of lists.
3. Depends on which one my friends are going to see first.
4. Nope, Disney will basically rule the world at the end of this year.
Bobby Roberts
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I'll get in on this: I think you've got Avengers in the right ballpark, but I'm putting Star Wars at 1.6 bil, with 550 of that coming domestically.
it's gonna be REEEEEAL close. I'm not saying one's going to blow out the other at any rate.
Don't forget, there's still Bond and Hunger Games to contend with. Maybe Jurassic Park rounding out the top 5.
The Force Awakens
Age of Ultron
I'd have to flip a coin D:
The final Hunger Games movie is releasing next year and that one is very likely breaking $1B, but I don't expect it to be "close" (I can see both TFA and AoU sailing past $1.5B)
I don't really care much for KH
Shining Sunshine
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When did Star Wars make 1 billion? That's right, never.
Edit: Nm phantom menace did 1 bil, but Avengers did 1.5 bil and Iron Man 3 did 1.2bil. sooo
Gambit 1138
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Comparing Avengers to The Force Awakens is like comparing Dark Man to T2. It's not even in the same league kid
Going by the numbers, I'd probably say Avengers.
Here is hope Star Wars will be the best film. But if I had to place a bet, Marvel seems to have already figured out how to make a nice Super Hero movie, so... I'm conflicted, but I'd say Age of Ultron. But the thing is, since George Lucas is not directing this film, we might end up with the best Star Wars since The Empire Strikes Back.
Star Wars, most definitely.
Unless I'm missing something, no.
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SargerusBR
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I'm a major fan of both franchises. That being said SW will win this. The hype is waaaaaay too strong.
SargerusBR
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Episode I made 1 billion back in 1999
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