Gametrailers guy? I think.
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Play Nintendo - Announcing Nintendo @ E3 2014
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Gametrailers guy? I think.
Point 2 and 3 stem directly from point 1. So again...all problems with gaming journalism imo. It basically boiled down to: No swanky event for press = no swanky press coverage for Nintendo.
Just because it pleases the press and because, ultimately, it works; doesn't make ok.
HUELEN10
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Word of mouth and limited time keeps things fresh and current, a demo for all would get stale and be only for those who already own the console.
From a marketing perspective, it's genius.
RMS Gigantic
Member
Since when is E3 attended by or shown to anyone with simply a passing interest in the market? What, are there supermarkets that showed their shoppers the feed from live Nintendo conferences that won't show the subdued events out of principle?
Vire
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Shane Satterfield is not happy, I think.
He's right, anyone who says that E3 press conferences have little to no meaning didn't watch Sony's last year.
The Anti-DRM/Used games portion was hugely successful for their brand and image going forward. Just seems like another misstep for Nintendo in a long list of them... :/
What is sad is that you will probably hear more about that than the new Zelda and whatever else they show. The content should not take a backseat to how they decide to present it.
They'll probably show the footage from the Event on the screen at the time the Event takes place.
(And using the word Direct is less silly than just referring to The Event. REMAIN INDOORS)
shouamabane
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Mega 64 are huge Evangelion fans.
How was the other 1 hour and 30 minutes of the conference, though?
Vire
Member
Yeah exactly, so we are in agreement? Which is why I said it was a rather big mistake not to do so?
Pretty mediocre, but that's not what major sites report on or the national media. There were news stories on CNN and Yahoo for days about the issue.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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IGN:
Man, Zelda looks absolutely fantastic BUT IT'S A GODDAM SHAME THAT IT WASN'T UP THERE FOR THE WORLD TO SEE.
The sales of the Zelda's serie are not huge but it attracts people. Mario is a system seller but people need to be convinced with graphics and technology. Imagine just a realy big Zelda and peole will probably think that the U is not so poor compare to a PS4.
And press continues to ignore all the other announcements:
From Cnet: "Nintendo bails on E3 press conference yet again"
http://www.cnet.com/news/nintendo-bails-on-e3-press-conference-yet-again-2014/
From Cnet: "Nintendo bails on E3 press conference yet again"
http://www.cnet.com/news/nintendo-bails-on-e3-press-conference-yet-again-2014/
They did, their post just confirms how people don't know what they are talking about
Baron von Loathsome
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I'm not sure there will be any Spike coverage anyway, since Viacom just sold GameTrailers. I don't know any other TV networks that air E3 conferences.
People at home want YouTube trailers. Quick and simple. Not everyone really cares if they have a fancy event. Just show the games and give us the dates. This information will be found in all the same avenues. Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, gaming press, PR, forums etc. No different.
Nintendo announced a crap load via Nintendo Directs exclusively. Pokemon X and Y, NSMB2, Mario Golf, X, SMT X FE, Yarn Yoshi, Kirby 3D, A Link Between worlds was shown at some random 3DS event and they even announced the 3DS XL itself weeks after E3 at a random Direct. This information did not get lost. We all got the message. Everything is and was fine.
Yeah but will there be new games and announcements?
All the good it did Microsoft. No one at E3 even talked about their conference, it was all about "So about that DRM? No used games?" That was their biggest story, not the conference itself. Hell that E3 ruined Xbone in many peoples' eyes.
The conference itself is good for your image, i don't believe it correlates to sales.
R
Rösti
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I'm a bit disappointed they won't be hosting a press conference this year either, but it's nice to see they are increasing their E3 presence. The Treehouse thing seems especially intriguing.
41 days to go.
41 days to go.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Mysterious
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Not much saving if they'll be having some tournament on the Nokia Theatre stage.
Nintendo is incredibly moronic, and I hope this descent into the bottomless pit will help shake up their executive profile. Sorry Mr. Iwata, but your company cannot, and I quote, "do anything [it] wants".
AdmiralMikey
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As someone who's routinely tuned into gaming news, I don't really see much of a difference between what Nintendo's doing now and what Microsoft and Sony are doing. The biggest difference is Nintendo's probably saving some money by putting together a pre-recorded video and posting it online rather than the expense of hosting a live event, and streaming it online.
Although, I do see how it can hurt Nintendo's mainstream press coverage. Let's face it, the press likes being wined and dined. And while they're not exactly being taken out to a buffet by Microsoft and Sony, that free live press event (possibly with gift baggies) does wonders in catching the attention of the larger press. As far as the gaming press goes, Nintendo's probably going to get as much coverage as Microsoft or Sony. When it comes to the greater scope of media, Nintendo's going to be a footnote at E3.
If you believe that matters or not, you can just look at the lack of Wii U coverage from last year's E3, compared to PS4 and Xbox One coverage, and the resulting sales of each. I don't WANT those trends to continue, but I feel there's a pretty good chance of it coming out of this E3.
Although, I do see how it can hurt Nintendo's mainstream press coverage. Let's face it, the press likes being wined and dined. And while they're not exactly being taken out to a buffet by Microsoft and Sony, that free live press event (possibly with gift baggies) does wonders in catching the attention of the larger press. As far as the gaming press goes, Nintendo's probably going to get as much coverage as Microsoft or Sony. When it comes to the greater scope of media, Nintendo's going to be a footnote at E3.
If you believe that matters or not, you can just look at the lack of Wii U coverage from last year's E3, compared to PS4 and Xbox One coverage, and the resulting sales of each. I don't WANT those trends to continue, but I feel there's a pretty good chance of it coming out of this E3.
I really hope so, mate.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
It's worked so far, they drive better cars(and bicycles) than all of us.
Vire
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Well yes of course, there is a risk when you do a live conference that you may do more damage than good. (See Sony E3 2006).
But the potential benefit/reward should not be understated. As Shane said, there's a reason that Microsoft and Sony continue to put huge amounts of money into these presentations.
Interceptor
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Millions, Billions (!) of dollars on press conferences. So, what´s making them so expensive? The room? Nintendo got this
for several days instead just 2 hours. What else? The trailers? Check, those wont make any difference. A live presentation of a game? If this cost you millions you are doing something wrong. So whats left? Goodies. Free xboxes or games is nothing you can expect from a fan event like this. Clapping plants in the audience? I doubt they are this expensive. So whats so expensive about a conference?
for several days instead just 2 hours. What else? The trailers? Check, those wont make any difference. A live presentation of a game? If this cost you millions you are doing something wrong. So whats left? Goodies. Free xboxes or games is nothing you can expect from a fan event like this. Clapping plants in the audience? I doubt they are this expensive. So whats so expensive about a conference?
BruceLeeRoy
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It can't be anything like last years Direct that's for sure
Twenty7KVN
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What do you expect,the press does what ever gets them the most clicks.
Shane Satterfield is not happy, I think.
Smart companies like MS and Sony, cute.
SlowRevolution
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At least it sounds like it won't just be Iwata awkwardly standing in a room by himself. Wish it was live (and I think that's what Nintendo needed to do), but it should still be an improvement over last year.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Last year's stream was so bad, I thought Smash Brothers for the 3DS was the Wii U version.
Yeah, but can he really say for sure that Nintendo's poor sales are a direct result of doing a prerecorded video instead of a live conference last year? Seems silly.
Mysterious
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No company loses all of its money off the bat. It accelerates, and it seems the company itself is speeding up its own acceleration.
Last quarter results. Notice the operating losses.
Isn't this sarcasm?Shane Satterfield is not happy, I think.
The main tweet about the spending millions and smart companies.
Opinionatedfish
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Why yes, I will go try out the new Smash Bros game at Best Buy.
I understand that Nintendo wants to make sure that they have good message control; but they sacrifice the ability to get "high interest" news coverage by having that control.
Now, they need to schedule at least three of these events in particularly bad parts of one or two major cities. Think about the press coverage that Smash Bros will get if a knife fight breaks out at a Best Buy in Chicago or Michigan.
Not saying there needs to be a knife fight, but imagine how much coverage that would get if someone got stabbed because of a frenzied line dispute for the new Smash Bros.
I understand that Nintendo wants to make sure that they have good message control; but they sacrifice the ability to get "high interest" news coverage by having that control.
Now, they need to schedule at least three of these events in particularly bad parts of one or two major cities. Think about the press coverage that Smash Bros will get if a knife fight breaks out at a Best Buy in Chicago or Michigan.
Not saying there needs to be a knife fight, but imagine how much coverage that would get if someone got stabbed because of a frenzied line dispute for the new Smash Bros.
Please don't stab people for Smash Bros.
Sakurai said the game will be launched in winter. He adds 2014 but winter begins on December 21. Do you seriously think they will release it the 21?
Besides Sakurai is sick and cannot work quickly. He is very meticulous.
I bet we will have the smash bros U in february. The game of christmas for U will be Bayo 2.
tradition? Its a non-hardware year, game sites scramble for content anyway, press will probably be able to play at Nintendos booth early again. it'll also be the like 5th conference theyd be going to.. if they really love livetweeting on a laptop in a hot theatre so they can not/cheer along with employees... then dunno, they can get hype at some real gaming being shown (tournie).
There was nothing Nintendo could have done. It was the E3 before two new console launches. All Nintendo could do was weather it out.
Babymario26
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6 weeks aint that long to me. i thought it was atleast 3 months away when i watched the video... funny.
"2014 will see the arrival of not one, but two new Super Smash Bros. games: Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U."
So guess it depends what you think of as 2014 from the press' eyes.
1. It's 2014. Winter 2014 in game release terms is November or December. Winter 2014 is not in 2015
2. Sakurai is one man, the leader of a huge team. He injured his hand, he is not sick. Just because he injured his hand does not mean work stops.
3. Bayonetta 2 is still pegged for summer launch.
I'm not saying he's wrong, but calling Nintendo stupid is going a bit far.
fredrancour
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There was a list of release dates of past nintendo games in the thread where that window was first announced. "Winter 2013" wound up leading to release dates as early as october for retail titles. Nintendo's definition of seasons is weird.