So you believe him over everybody else who said it wasn't a moneyhat? You believe in Phil Spencer.
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So you believe him over everybody else who said it wasn't a moneyhat? You believe in Phil Spencer.
Well then Im sure what he said is 100% truthful - I know this because hes allergic to rice
ps3ud0 8)
Pretty sure that FF14 director straight up said that MS's cross-play policy is what prevented an XB1 version of FF14.
Spencer is a sad pile of lies.
Spencer is a sad pile of lies.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I am not certain how anyone can believe Phil Spencer when it comes to FFXIV .
In fact time and time again we see MS has a problems with cross platform play .
Maybe things will change now that we see them doing it with there own titles but RL coming out soon and they don't have it .
In fact time and time again we see MS has a problems with cross platform play .
Maybe things will change now that we see them doing it with there own titles but RL coming out soon and they don't have it .
No I don't really believe him but he did say it and I cant 100% rule it out though. He never came out and said he was mistaken.
I've read around the net that DC Universe is coming to Xbox One and will be crossplay with PS4 and PC? Maybe it's not true? (It was on the portuguese Eurogamer's website which is really not a very credible source).
Anyway, I don't think that even if microsoft lifts the cross play with ps4 ban, Square would bother to lauch the game on xbox at this point.
You can't be this naive? I mean c'mon, man, are you for real?
Rule or thumb is that you should probably ignore what an Xbox executive says about games on a Sony platform, and vice versa. They're competing.
I already said i don't really believe him but usually execs don't just blatantly lie and not correct themselves if it was an honest mistake.
Can I with 1000% certainty say that he is lying? No.
Keep in mind you say this about a man who openly defends the toxic parity clause by spinning it into something to make the xbox ecosystem feel like theyre first
Buddy have I got news for you
Yeah but even there he never flat out just lied about the being a policy. Even in his spin he basically admitted that there was a policy but people could go talk to him.
As for the TR thing I think their explanation was that it was exclusive during the winter period even though it was worded extremely awkwardly.
How do you even spin the ff14 comment to be a truth if it really was a flat out lie?
SolidSnakex
Member
There difference is that DCUO is now F2P. FFXIV is and always will be subscription based. It's basically suicide for that game to release on a platform that's not linked to their expanded userbase. Dragon Quest X is coming to the PS4 and gamers from it will be able to play with PC, Wii U etc. gamers.
Remember when Phil Spencer said the parity clause is gone.
Then we had Developers come on Gaf to say it's still there?
He didn't correct himself.
So which party is lying? Not a trick question, just wondering who's lying by your standards.
Nope. Daybreak confirmed that the XB1 version will be all on its own.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-01-12-dc-universe-online-coming-to-xbox-one
Apparently PS4/PS3 are already on the same servers, so it'll be apparently PS3/ PS4/ PC together.
Wow, gotta wonder why they are bothering. The game is like how old now? I know it was on PS3.
That's more of his wordplay again. He's calling what most people would just call a "policy" or "clause" an "idea". In that first paragraph he admitted that there's this idea people are calling a parity clause and that "idea" exists but not some paragraph 2 section 4b type policy/clause that is unbreakable. It's dumb technicalities but that's how he wants to play it.
What the hell is their deal with not allowing cross play? Seems fucking archaic these days.
But....
Originally Posted by Phil Spencer
"It's business," he said, adding he couldn't speak too candidly about the matter. "As I've grow in this role, and I've tried to learn the third-party exclusivity thing - and you see us doing less of it now - [I've found] it's not something I'm a huge fan of."
Originally Posted by Phil Spencer
"Different kind of deals happen, and I know that's part of this busienss, and maybe it'll be my failing in the end," he says, laughing. "But it's not something I specifically embrace with any deal that's out there, whether it's something else. It's just not something I can explicitly talk to."
He definitely alludes to Sony having made a deal for third party exclusivity for FF14. Otherwise, why mention it at all. It is their own policy holding back FF14, and he just lied about it. He lied. There is no middle ground. you are either calling Naoki Yoshida a liar, or Phil Spencer. Why would Yoshida have reason to lie?
It could be something as simple as social aspects.
So limiting the social aspect of your community is key here, got it.
I agree with your logic but like i said he didn't come right out and apologize that he misspoke and we don't have a direct response from Yoshida I believe to Phil's comments. I think the statements we do have from yoshida were in the past?
serversurfer
Member
So are you starting to understand the difference between a Microsoft Exec and a Usual Exec?
Guess not.
As in they don't want their users to be social with other Console and PC players?
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but, anyone know of any PS4 deals? I really want to buy one but totally missed the boat for all the Christmas sales.Preferably Best Buy if I can (maybe I can take advantage of a price match type deal?).
Nothing right now. Fry's Electronics had the UC collection bundle for 299 a couple days ago.
Lol figures since I had seen no mention of it on GAF. Whoever runs eurogamer.pt facebook page is a moron.
Your in game chat, you talk to someone, make online buddies, you can never track them or speak to them again after. If anything, it segregates. Nothing would be able to tie into XBL.
I can see why.
This wasn't a problem in FFXI though. You make friends in game, you add them to your friends list. If you want to expand that friendship, you exchange further information like facebook, email, text, etc. Not being able to hook up on XBL isn't a reason to segregate your player base from the rest of the world.
So every cross platform game uses a completely different social system to what's already built in the Xbox?
See the problem?
You add someone to your friend list ingame and you play with them in the game. If you want to keep contact, there are thousands of ways in which you can do so, if you and they want to.
Cthulhu_Steev
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They don't want the xbone crowd mixing with the other ruffians?
Phones and other social networks are also available for contact. Or you could just add them in-game, it's cross platform.
No, I don't. Please explain.
Not every cross platform game. No one is saying CoD needs this, but MMOs should definitely be cross platform friendly.
First Class Citizen don't mix with other classes.
Oh I definitely agree. I'm just trying to list some reasoning for why they still stand by it. It's not for no reason.
EDIT: Didn't the indie MMO which released mix with the PC? Can't remember it's name now...
Ha.
Oh damn
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Just because they changed policy now (if they in fact have) doesn't mean it was never true at one point beforehand.
I meant that DCU being crossplay was maybe not true. Which it isn't.
It's funny how many games the first class miss out on these days. Dem third party deals yo.
serversurfer
Member
Yes, the problem is you may realize you're still having just as much fun even without all that stuff MS convinced you was so special.
Fun until you try to invite one of your friends to the game until you realise you can't because you haven't added any of your friends in the game and the guide doesn't work.
Didn't he one said that the Parity Clause didn't exist? And then said that it was gone? Like, how can something that didn't exist at all then be gone?
gundamkyoukai
Member
None of your reasons make any sense every game should get cross platform play IMO .
For eg SFV having cross platform play is a huge boost to the community .
It easy to keep in contact in the world we live in now.
slavesnyder
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Welcome to Silent Phil
Crimson_Gold
Member
Huh? This shouldn't be the basis for not allowing cross play. Hell, DCUO has it's own friends list in the game. A game can have a separate friends list and be just fine. Having your psn or live friend list feed that list with additional information is nice, but to think a simple issue like you stated is a good reason not to allow cross play is stretching
Hahahahha, golden.