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PlayStation 4 removal of system activation limit? How will this affect you?
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Uno Venova
Banned
Nothing seems confirmed yet. But I do have a feeling the account system is going to get worse being more restrictive.
Pretty big actually, I've not bought a full price digital game on PSN in years. Sharing an account with a close friend meant TLoU, NinoKuni, Borderlands 2, Dishonored and many more all at launch for $30 on PSN. I love that Sony kept it in but I can obviously see why its getting removed lol
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
... which is the 360 way of doing things, except that with the 360 you don't have one "home console", you have a home license for the console you buy a piece of content on, so it's on a per-content basis.
yea... no
So on the PS4 you would have to pick one "home" console for all content?
HiredN00bs
Member
This is about the console being able to play downloaded content offline or on other profiles/accounts.
Right, but the license migration tool consolidates all licenses from an account onto one 360 console.
The way I've always handled it on 360 is I put all licenses on my television console and play as a guest on my primary console because I'm always online on my primary, and my family and friends have access to my entire library of content
You could still do that with the described system as in my example.
ROBOKITTYZILLA
Member
I was expecting this but I'm really sad to see the system go. It was really convenient and saved me some money.
I have two different accounts in my household and both are often used to play the same game at the same time. With the old system, I could purchase a game once and download it to both systems (similar to IOS). Now, I have to buy everything twice, which is pretty much the same as every other gaming device.
I have two different accounts in my household and both are often used to play the same game at the same time. With the old system, I could purchase a game once and download it to both systems (similar to IOS). Now, I have to buy everything twice, which is pretty much the same as every other gaming device.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Moot point. This is a regression of what is already offered on the PS3. With an increasing emphasis on digital downloads, why should I not be allowed to share my content with my family members.
I love the fact that me and my brother can both play the same game, online, using two different PS3s.
This new system is horrendous.
Vestal
Gold Member
For the same reason why they lowered the 5 console limit to 2 last gen. From my understanding the method they did it last gen was more to do with system limitations instead of how they intended to implement something like this.
Now with a more fleshed out system, they are implementing their vision of how it should be. That is at least my appreciation of the situation.
Now they are basically that the games are attached to a PSN Account. So how you could do it is install games on Home Console and play with a different PSN account and use your PSN account on a separate console.
why not just allow two home consoles?
I understand their point but it is fairly simple to understand a situation like console in lounge shared by family, and another in a kid's bedroom with their account.
Iorv3th
Member
If thats the case then it will be like the 360 is now. Which for it what we ended up doing was if I bought a game or dlc I would buy it on my wifes console because I would always be signed in on mine. So we could both play it that way. Or if she bought she would buy on mine.
It is a pain in the ass though and I like how the PS3 is set up because I don't have to worry about being online or which system I download stuff on. Only I have plus right now so I am able to download games to play on my system (which is hooked up to a monitor) or I can download them on the other system in the living room and we can play on the big screen co-op etc. No hassle at all.
It is a pain in the ass though and I like how the PS3 is set up because I don't have to worry about being online or which system I download stuff on. Only I have plus right now so I am able to download games to play on my system (which is hooked up to a monitor) or I can download them on the other system in the living room and we can play on the big screen co-op etc. No hassle at all.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Has Sony stated yet if we can sign in to multiple accounts at once (like we can per player on the 360 currently)?
I don't see why not. You can already do this using Steam's offline mode (I know this for a fact), and that's exactly how it sounds it will work.
I realize that it's a departure, and agree that a blanket two console activation system is definitely superior. I was hoping the two activation system would continue, and it sucks that it's not.
But I can easily see why they don't want to continue it now that PS+ is required for online play. It would be really easy to set up a dummy PSN and get PS+ with it to share with a friend, that way you both get the free games + online access, and just trade off who pays for it each year. It sucks that it makes it more expensive/difficult for people with two consoles, but at least there's still a work around (even if only the PS+ sub account would have access on one of them).
The best we can hope for, imo, is that we're allowed to activate a second PS4 for content downloads, even if not online access. That way people with two consoles are able to play all the content with any user account on either, even if online access is restricted to the PS+ account on the secondary console.
The Faceless Master
Member
worse than 5, worse than 2, and the ONLY reason for this is because online play requires PS+ now and Sony doesn't want two peeps splitting DAT PS+ cost.
It was more of a question but from the video:
"Your content is linked to one PlayStation 4 system."
I hope I'm wrong.
Beer Monkey
Member
Nobody makes a big deal about how 360 and Steam work, this is not draconian.
H_Prestige
Banned
The current system is way more intuitive and consumer friendly. So it's not surprising Sony is getting rid of it in favor of the Xbox approach.
Zoe
Member
It's not draconian, but it is a step back.
You are wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I game share with a plus user. I still get the plus discounts etc from his account but I DON'T get the benfit of cloud storage, setting up downloads/system updates, etc. So there is still a need to join plus if I wanted too.
This will probably be how it works on PS4. You can share SOME features of PS+ (the discounts, themes, games, etc) but not ALL (online play). You will probably still have acess to the DL list too.
Please stop spreading misinformation as we have nothing to back up your claims yet and you aren't sharing a system with a PS+ user so you don't know how this works (and I don't even know how it will work on the PS4- the video gives me nothing). But sony is a BUISNESS and they are already taking a loss with the PS4 price point given the hardware. They want you to have two systems in your home if possible. Decreasing the activations would be a bad move for them business wise.
Zoe
Member
They already confirmed that only one Plus account per PS4 is required for everyone to play online.
i really hope we get a confirmation of this soon. i have 2 ps3s that i use. i don't want the ps4 to deactivate a ps3 if it takes up a spot like how the vita uses a psp spot. it's a really shitty system imo. if there is going to be a limit, let it be something like 5, not this 2 bs.
I can see why they would do this from a business standpoint. Everyone wants to be able to share their stuff, but in the end it's a loss in profit for the companies creating the content. Right now, I share my PSN login with my younger cousin so he can sign in and download any PS+ content or any DLC I have purchased, and he can then use that stuff (signed in or not) on his own PSN ID (ie: we both use Battlefield 3 Premium content/DLC simultaneously that I paid for.) In the end, that's a profit loss for EA/Dice. I don't have to like it, but I can understand why they're doing it.
phosphor112
Banned
I had 3 PS3's. Luckily the 3rd one died so I didn't have to bother with the 2 console limit. If they got rid of that limit. I'd love it.
Yeah that would be silly.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Will online game access work cross region with PSN+?
Ex: Someone has a system with 2 US, 2 EU and 2 JPN accounts, but only one of them is Plus. Can they still play online with all 6 accounts or just the one with plus and the other account in the same region?
Ex: Someone has a system with 2 US, 2 EU and 2 JPN accounts, but only one of them is Plus. Can they still play online with all 6 accounts or just the one with plus and the other account in the same region?
what would be silly? There are locked out plus features right now for people who share plus between their systems on the PS3 now why wouldn't it be the same for the PS4. And knowing how the system works now on PS3, why did anyone think they could all share one person's plus online access in the first place? That would be silly. This way Sony gets money for everyone paying to go online for every system (ALOT of money knowing the userbase), and we keep our shares between our systems, It's a win-win situation for everyone and keeps gamers of the current generation happy and I thought that's what Sony said they wanted to do with the PS4 at E3.
I'd like to know that too as I got a two year EU + subscription when they went on sale last March for like $25 each (should of got more). It would be awesome not to pay for plus (I don't have a US + account) to go online until those years are up. However, that being said, I could only be getting trophies for my EU account while online and I would not like that at all (I have none right now).
Either way, I'm ready for both outcomes.Then you are not getting what I'm saying I still believe (and want them to) keep a two activation limit. I think going under that would be silly. I like how it is set up on ps3 right now (you can share plus between systems but you lose plus features your "main" has). Until I get further confirmation from an actual source, I'll believe this wil be true for the PS4 as well.
I don't understand. Why is this an issue? Just let your friends or family log into your PSN account to play your games if they're too cheap to buy their own.
Because you can't have two consoles logged into the same PSN account at the same time. If you log in, you'll kick the other one off the service.
Zoe
Member
People aren't disappointed about not sharing Plus features. They're disappointed about not sharing purchases.
Vestal
Gold Member
This should be another none issue.
This was bound to happen, since the only reason for how they were doing multi console activation was the ass backwards architecture they had back in the PS3 era.
Digital Games should be tied to your PSN/Gamertag and be able to use them in different systems while you are logged in. Your home console should be able to play them at all times with any account logged in. This is how it should be, and how it sounds the XbOne is, and the PS4 should be.
This was bound to happen, since the only reason for how they were doing multi console activation was the ass backwards architecture they had back in the PS3 era.
Digital Games should be tied to your PSN/Gamertag and be able to use them in different systems while you are logged in. Your home console should be able to play them at all times with any account logged in. This is how it should be, and how it sounds the XbOne is, and the PS4 should be.
H_Prestige
Banned
The "limit" is only on which consoles can download stuff under your psn account. You can have as many ps3's as you want with all your downloads on them with no restrictions.
It hasn't been.
Uno Venova
Banned
You would think people would celebrate when it was confirmed.
Zoe
Member
Sharing by means of using only one account is not the same thing.