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[Zeouterlimits]

Nah. Any of the 3DS Pokemon games would look like garbage at 1080p and it's not worth the time, effort, and money for Game Freak to rebuild the game from the ground up at this point in time for the Switch.

The best thing is for them to start working on the next generation of Pokemon for the Switch, which they're more than likely doing at this point.

Emulators prove that the game looks good when upscaled.
Not worth the money? You don't think it would sell?

They could outsource the work and let themselves focus on the next real thing.

 

[itchyass86]

I'm at work. I just read the news and I can't stop giggling. Can do nothin else really.

 

[BGBW]

Port of a Wii U Pokemon game that no one s keen on

I love how GAF has decided to become book authors today since they are certainly writing a lot of fiction at the moment.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Lame. But I guess it make sense that they don't really need more big Switch games for 2017 since by all accounts supply will be very constrained until well into 2018. So I guess they think it's better to save things like a Switch Pokemon for once supply catches up to demand and they need big games to re-start sales and get fence sitters to buy a console.

 

[Trojita]

Some people talking about Black and White 2
But at least you could play B&W 2 on a 3DS

That's not the case with Ultra Sun and Moon

But you can play Ultra Sun and Moon on a 3DS 🤔

 

[HawthorneKitty]

So why does it seem like this won't be even close to what BW2 did after the original 2? Ultra? Seems super... I don't know. Makes it seem like it isn't some big upgrade from the originals.

Its because people are too salty right now.

 

[SuperOrez]

Anyone else notice how creepy Mimicyu's new Z move is?

 

[ZeoVGM]

Switch is not a 3DS successor in the classical way like 3DS was to DS or GBA to GBC.

That is known.

Its a new thing all together.

It's still a successor that will get future mainline Pokemon games. What are you people trying to argue? It's silly semantics.

 

[prateeko]

Nah. Any of the 3DS Pokemon games would look like garbage at 1080p and it's not worth the time, effort, and money for Game Freak to rebuild the game from the ground up at this point in time for the Switch.

The best thing is for them to start working on the next generation of Pokemon for the Switch, which they're more than likely doing at this point.

Exactly, have to think about diminishing returns at some point.

 

[ShiftaDeband]

All I want is a national Pokedex. Tell me it will be in the game.

 

[Angry Chair]

When I saw how much time was being spent on Pokken, I knew "Stars" wasn't coming to the Switch. Has Eurogamer commented on being wrong yet?

Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if Gen 8 was on the 3DS as well. GameFreak sucks ass.

 

[Macka]

Anyone surprised by this is an idiot, it's the same strategy Nintendo had done all along. Remember people, pokemon emerald came out on GBC after GBA was already out and Black2/white2 came out on DS after 3DS was out already. I don't understand how anyone can forget this.

Emerald actually came out a few months before the DS, and was playable on it.

B2 & W2 released after the 3DS launch, and were playable on it.

That's the difference here.

It's not as if a version for Switch is much to ask, either. See Monster Hunter XX for what most of us expected.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

Switch is not a 3DS successor in the classical way like 3DS was to DS or GBA to GBC.

That is known.

Its a new thing all together.

Well, yeah, I get that, but it's not like we don't consider DS the GBA successor, and it was less clear back then that the DS would supplant GBA as Nintendo's flagship handheld, than it is now that Switch will supplant 3DS as Nintendo's flagship handheld.

 

[MegaManTrigger]

Switch is not a 3DS successor in the classical way like 3DS was to DS or GBA to GBC.

That is known.

Its a new thing all together.

So you seriously think Nintendo will make a new handheld despite them already saying that the Wii U/3DS software split hurt them?

The problem is that you cannot think simply in classical terms with the Switch, it's unprecedented.

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

So no more Pokemon games?

Nah. Any of the 3DS Pokemon games would look like garbage at 1080p and it's not worth the time, effort, and money for Game Freak to rebuild the game from the ground up at this point in time for the Switch.

The best thing is for them to start working on the next generation of Pokemon for the Switch, which they're more than likely doing at this point.

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Emulators prove that the game looks good when upscaled.
Not worth the money? You don't think it would sell?

They could outsource the work and let themselves focus on the next real thing.

It would sell but it would very much look like an upscaled 3DS game and that could give the wrong impression of the Switch power-wise. You don't want your flagship, best-selling title making your platform look bad.

 

[spindashing]

Some people talking about Black and White 2
But at least you could play B&W 2 on a 3DS

That's not the case with Ultra Sun and Moon

wait what uh yes you can

 

[Oersted]

Lame. But I guess it make sense that they don't really need more big Switch games for 2017 since by all accounts supply will be very constrained until well into 2018. So I guess they think it's better to save things like a Switch Pokemon for once supply catches up to demand and they need big games to re-start sales and get fence sitters to buy a console.

There is a really really obvious explanation.

Game Freak needs a time.

Sun and Moon isn't even a year old.

So you seriously think Nintendo will make a new handheld despite them already saying that the Wii U/3DS software split hurt them?

The problem is that you cannot think simply in classical terms with the Switch, it's unprecedented.

I did not imply or think that.


Exactly.

 

[eyesradar]

Fuck man, very disappointed at GF. I don't think Nintendo didn't push for a Switch release. Oh well.

 

[Foffy]

That's actually a really fair point.



But I still don't see why they would do that. If they are going out of their way to have a Pokemon Direct it makes no sense to save Ultra S&M for E3 1 week later.

E3 is likely to be Switch focused, so they're getting the smaller announcements out of the way.

I wouldn't be shocked if Ultra Sun & Moon are the only first-party 3DS games really showcased at the event. Maybe Ever Oasis as well because that launched in two weeks..?

 

[Menitta]

3DS aside I wish it was ONE version. I hated what they did with B2W2.

 

[Crazy Diamond]

The Switch is replacing the Wii U.

The 3DS will eventually stop getting new releases, but I don't think that the Switch is "replacing" it. The 3DS is simply being put out to pasture with no planned follow-up.

Nah, it's replacing both. That entire Pokken trailer was about a dude playing Pokken on the go.

 

[ffejeromdiks]

I watched the Pokken trailer and I totally presumed that bit at the end was a Switch announcement, only now am I seeing the truth. What in the hell?

 

[Busaiku]

3DS aside I wish it was ONE version. I hated what they did with B2W2.

You get more money from 2 versions.

 

[7Th]

Just to make it clear, the official site explicitly says that these are like Crystal, Emerald and Platinum rather than like BW2:

Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon have been powered up with new additions to the story and features of Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon!

I'm a bit disappointed since I wanted to see trainer Lillie, though.

 

[KSweeley]

Hmmmm, strange, the official The Pokemon Company International's press release does NOT list the systems for Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon: http://pokemon.gamespress.com/releases/2434/new-pokmon-games-announced-via-pokmon-direct

During Pokémon Direct, viewers also saw the first footage from the newest titles in the Pokémon series, Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon. Two new Pokémon forms were shown resembling that of the Legendary Pokémon Solgaleo and Lunala. Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon have been powered up with new additions to the story and features from Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon. Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon are scheduled to release worldwide on 17 November 2017—more information about the games will be revealed later this year.

 

[astrogamer]

Anyone else notice how creepy Mimicyu's new Z move is?

That was presumably a cutscene from where it's a new totem pokemon. The background was rather normal compared to the Z-moves

 

[ZeoVGM]

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But your first paragraph is wrong, which means the second one doesn't make sense.

 

[Vanillalite]

So why does it seem like this won't be even close to what BW2 did after the original 2? Ultra? Seems super... I don't know. Makes it seem like it isn't some big upgrade from the originals.

Feels that way, but they didn't tell us much....

 

[Yoshimitsu126]

Maybe Nintendo didn't want the Pokemon RPG first console debut to be a port and GameFreak isn't ready for HD Pokemon RPG game either.

I really don't think Stars will be on the Switch and instead Switch will get a new generation in a year or two along with the Diamond and Pearl remake.

 

[AlexFlame116]

Buying Ultra Moon for sure! Ultra Sun...maybe. If there is a steelbook bundle like before then yes for sure.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

Just to make it clear, the official site explicitly says that these are like Crystal, Emerald and Platinum rather than like BW2:



I'm a bit disappointed since I wanted to see trainer Lillie, though.

That's not too explicit tho

 

[13ruce]

So you seriously think Nintendo will make a new handheld despite them already saying that the Wii U/3DS software split hurt them?

The problem is that you cannot think simply in classical terms with the Switch, it's unprecedented.

3DS aside I wish it was ONE version. I hated what they did with B2W2.

Just get one you can get all other pokes from the GTS anyway.

 

[WhatNXt]

I've retired my 3DS, whether Nintendo intended me to or not. Disappointing.

I'll totally tune out of any E3 coverage Nintendo have for this as well. I'm just not interested.

 

[Puruzi]

wonder if these spots are gonna have something there now

 

[Zoon]

So, this is a different timeline or what?

 

[SuperOrez]

That was presumably a cutscene from where it's a new totem pokemon. The background was rather normal compared to the Z-moves

But still, mother fucker is creep and dragging you into your own personal hell.

 

[Mareg]

I don't understand.
I literally just bought Pokemon Sun 3ds for my son last month. Why another game on the same platform with the same name. What does Ultra even means ?

 

[Anteo]

Some people talking about Black and White 2
But at least you could play B&W 2 on a 3DS

That's not the case with Ultra Sun and Moon

Lmmao

 

[ChrisD]

I just woke up and saw all the news

Hahahha
HAHAhahahah
HAHAHAHAHAAAAA

This is freaking great omg

If these are sequels ala B2/W2 I'll pick one up, otherwise I may be sitting things out. They made it sound like it will be, but the trailer didn't instill too much confidence. A few new areas isn't quite enough. They said the variety of Pokemon would be different, but then didn't show any new ones aside from the Box Legends, lol.

Edit: just saw the post above. Now I'm disappointed. :|

 

[GameCenterXDS]

Emerald actually came out a few months before the DS, and was playable on it.

B2 & W2 released after the 3DS launch, and were playable on it.

That's the difference here.

It's not as if a version for Switch is much to ask, either. See Monster Hunter XX for what most of us expected.

The situation with the switch is differnt from before. We won't see a mainline Pokémon till we get the Pocket Switch that is smaller and doesn't have detachable controllers and flips closed.

 

[Okami Haundo]

When I saw how much time was being spent on Pokken, I knew "Stars" wasn't coming to the Switch. Has Eurogamer commented on being wrong yet?

Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if Gen 8 was on the 3DS as well. GameFreak sucks ass.

Tom Phillips jumped in to say that they've never mentioned timing for the announcement. He also shared the odd press release info where they had Switch listed under "available platforms" for Ultra Sun/Moon. I don't know if Stars exists, but I'm crazy enough to not believe that this announcement 100% rules it out.

 

[Ydelnae]

wonder if these spots are gonna have something there now

A battle frontier under construction.

 

[ZeoVGM]

The situation with the switch is differnt from before. We won't see a mainline Pokémon till we get the Pocket Switch that is smaller and doesn't have detachable controllers and flips closed.

So we're never getting another mainline Pokemon?

 

[Lilalaunebaer]

Just got home and watched the direct.

Fuck me sideways -.-

 

[7Th]

That's not too explicit tho

I think "new additions to the story" makes it clear we're getting the same story with new elements instead of an all-new story like BW2.

 

[Fancyarcher]

Hmm not sure what to think of this. The direct didn't inspire the greatest of confidence that there be anything interesting or new to it anyway.

 

[Professor Lexicovermis]

Hmm. Seeing that new Mimikyu animation reminds me of a discussion we had over at the Smash community topic...

 

[Atrarock]

I agree. The obvious aliasing in every other clip besides this one is too offputting not to notice. Something is up regardless of what they're announcing.

I wouldn't look too far into it until something is concrete. A similar, clean looking video starts up when you're playing sun and moon normally. It's probably just part of the intro that we saw.

I absolutely get why Ultra is on 3DS. It just really should have been on both Switch and 3DS imo. Though with that said maybe it would be a nightmare to port it, so they just said fuck that.

Considering it took them nearly 4 years to have Pokemon run at a respectably, optimum frame rate on the DS (Diamond-Pearl to Black/White) gamefreak's optimization skills are what I can call "not great".

We should've seen it coming.

It was definitely a last surprise.

 

[Frost_Ace]

A battle frontier under construction.

It's been 3 years and I'm still angry about that.

 

[dickroach]

What are these versions?

"Ultra Sun and Moon will feature an alternate storyline with new creatures"
according to Kotaku


this is the most baffling announcement I think Nintendo's (ya ya.. the Pokemon company, etc.) ever made.