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[Chemo]

I know what you're talking about, it was the same interview where Kojima said he wouldn't be directing anymore MGS games. We know that turned out to be false so if Shinkawa is still working at KP I don't see why he wouldn't work on the next MGS.

Kojima has been saying "I'm not doing the next Metal Gear Solid" since the first one, though. Shinkawa has never said he wasn't doing the next Metal Gear before, and his art is almost always (maybe always) the first piece of promotional material we see for a main series Metal Gear title. We've seen two pieces of art now, both high grade renders, which are not traditionally used for promoting new Metal Gear titles. If Shinkawa were involved in this one like he was in the previous titles, we would have seen Big Boss and Raiden in his art, not in renders.

Either way, Shinkawa never said he wouldn't ever draw Solid Snake & Pals again. He said he was stepping down as the designer and lead artist. Again, it is very likely we'll see a piece of Shinkawa art in association with Metal Gear Whatever-this-shit-is but I'm not sure why people are so convinced that he'll be back in full capacity. He didn't create Metal Gear, it's not his studio, and as an artist, the reason he decided to step down as designer and lead artist is more than likely so that he could stretch his legs a little and work on something new. Kojima's reasons for sticking around are the exact opposite: he created the franchise, he runs the studio, he doesn't want to give up his epic series.

The only reason this was even brought up is because some dude was trying to break down why exactly they were using renders and making a huge deal out of it, and I just wanted to point out that it seemed that they transitioned to renders since Shinkawa is out (better to use renders than some completely new artist, as it would definitely change the tone of the promo materials). I think it's a pretty logical conclusion to come to... one of the only ones in this thread, I might add. :lol

 

[Absolute Bastard]

Let's trade dawg!(It's all I got)

Interesting fact: That tank in the rear is the Soviet Object 279. Only one prototype was made.

 

[Philanthropist]

Interesting fact: That tank in the rear is the Soviet Object 279. Only one prototype was made.

And Shagohod's treading system was actually developed.

 

[keiji]

Olga Gurlukovich eyes is brown or blue?

 

[Totobeni]

Olga Gurlukovich eyes is brown or blue?

IIRC green

I think it's Sunny , the color of the right eye in the scan is brown , and it just make sense for her to be the next Ninja in Metal Gear anyway .

- like mother , like daughter
- Raiden is/was guardian
- the sliver hair curse ( like her mother , Raiden and Grey fox , all silver haired people in MGS universe are destined to be Ninjas ) .
- Snake was like her 2nd father so he gave her his bandanna before he died.
- also we don't know why Sunny is a freak ( did Kojima ever explain why the lil bitch is super smart in MGS4 ? ) .

 

[Darkpen]

IIRC green

I think it's Sunny , the color of the right eye in the scan is brown , and it just make sense for her to be the next Ninja in Metal Gear anyway .

- like mother , like daughter
- Raiden is/was guardian
- the sliver hair curse ( like her mother , Raiden and Grey fox , all silver haired people in MGS universe are destined to be Ninjas ) .
- Snake was like her 2nd father so he gave her his bandanna before he died.
- also we don't know why Sunny is a freak ( did Kojima ever explain why the lil bitch is super smart in MGS4 ? ) .

Hint: its a government conspiracy

 

[GrayFoxPL]

It's Raiden people.


Although I guess it'd be interesting to see a Metal Gear set in the far off future, just to see what kind of crazy ass shit Kojima comes up with. But since it's Raiden, it ain't happening.

Nah, MGS4 was already way to futuristic for me. I hated the frog-women designs. I loved the MGS 2 Specnaz and MGS KGB/GRU troops.

I'd like MGS in 80-ties(again?). Fast boxy cars, terrible cloth fashion, and every character, including Snake, snorting coke. Imagine the possibilities! Maybe we'd finally find out why love blooms on the battlefield?

Oh and half of the game would be set in China!
Edit: Remember MGS3 Eva story?


People want Kojima futuristic game? There's ZOE for that. I wouldn't be surpried if the tie ZOE and MGS together.

 

[SMZC]

and it just make sense for her to be the next Ninja in Metal Gear anyway .

(...)

- like mother , like daughter.

Why does MGS need a ninja all the time, anyway? I think that they turned Raiden into one was already out of place. And don't get me started on Gray Fox being one even when he was just a teenager.

As for Olga, she wasn't really a ninja. The Patriots had her use the ninja suit because of the whole Shadow Moses simulation thing, nothing more.

 

[Totobeni]

People want Kojima futuristic game? There's ZOE for that. I wouldn't be surpried if the tie ZOE and MGS together.

not that long in the future , but something like 10 years after the events of MGS4 can be super cool , Otacon and Sunny as a Ninja , and all new 4th Big boss clone ( a complete and 100% healthy one - created by big boss when Eva or gang kept him alive -before MGS4 ) than in hand of new organization ( just to bring back the noob Experiment again aka MGS3 ) ...something like that ..

Why does MGS need a ninja all the time, anyway? I think that they turned Raiden into one was already out of place. And don't get me started on Gray Fox being one even when he was just a teenager.

As for Olga, she wasn't really a ninja. The Patriots had her use the ninja suit because of the whole Shadow Moses simulation thing, nothing more.

dunno , I think it's not needed too but , it's MGS Ninja cycle shit and Kojima kinda rike it .

about olga , I didn't mean " Ninja " as Shinobi/ninpo user or anything , just the person who used exoskeleton shit and with Swords and do awesome crap , Olga did that mandatory role in MGS2 .

 

[maniac-kun]

okay thats definitly not raiden or a human:

notice the teeth? they are all made of metal like the snatcher and the holes are there too.

so lets say mgs5 takes place 15-25 years after the events of mgs4 and you play as a new big boss clone that was secret until now. and suddenly people are replaced by snatchers and serious snake or whatever he is called (maybe with a memory copy of old snake with the help of nanomachines) investigates after he noticed something is wrong with raiden.

 

[Darkpen]

You do know that Big Boss was the first snatcher, right? And considering Dr. Madnar was the one responsible behind the technology, as well as the one who helped revive Raiden after he was retrieved, I wouldn't be surprised if Raiden, as we know him in MGS4, was in fact a snatcher as well (though not in the body-snatching sense).

 

[leesmapman]

<--- points to avatar

 

[Sword Familiar]

Connecting Metal Gear with Snatcher would destroy Snatcher's timeline. I honestly don't think that's it. Any references being made between the games are simply fan service. Meaning, the snatchers of "Snatcher" are not the same as the snatchers of Metal Gear.

 

[Caj814]

In MGS4

Spoiler

someone by the name of Professor Modnar helps with fixing up Raiden after the first Vamp fight.Modnar is the same name that was responsible for the first line of Snatchers

If anything MGS and Snatcher worlds are alternate from one another but share a lot of similarities.The same technology boom that happened in Snatcher already happened in the MGS world without the Snatcher out break happening

Spoiler

probably for now. . .:lol

at least.

 

[Callibretto]

someone post the cyborg photoshop overlayed with the crumbling mask earlier but it's not cleaned up and there's the timer obstructing the image.

I like the image a lot, so I made some rough cleaner version here.

 

["God's Beard!"]

But wasn't The End the spiritual successor to Chinaman?

The End doesn't use ancient Chinese magic.

edit: Big Boss

Spoiler

is a snatcher? wtf.

I need to play MGS4, come on PS3 price drop.

 

[infinityBCRT]

On the Bombcast, the guys are absolutely convinced we're going to see MGS4 for 360 and MGS5 for PS3. Also sounds like Brad has some inside information about it but hes not saying anything.

Also the whole "Kojima is not going to be at e3" was just rumour mongering by Garnett on this week's Listen Up. According to Geoff Keighley there will be a well known game designer at two first party conferences, so if the GiantBomb guys are right, it will be Kojima.

 

[Xun]

edit: Big Boss

Spoiler

is a snatcher? wtf.

I need to play MGS4, come on PS3 price drop.

It doesn't say so in MGS4.

 

[Darkpen]

The End doesn't use ancient Chinese magic.

edit: Big Boss

Spoiler

is a snatcher? wtf.

I need to play MGS4, come on PS3 price drop.

MGO database for how he lives after MG1.

 

[infinityBCRT]

In MGS4

Spoiler

someone by the name of Professor Modnar helps with fixing up Raiden after the first Vamp fight.Modnar is the same name that was responsible for the first line of Snatchers

If anything MGS and Snatcher worlds are alternate from one another but share a lot of similarities.The same technology boom that happened in Snatcher already happened in the MGS world without the Snatcher out break happening

Spoiler

probably for now. . .:lol

at least.

Like I said before, the MGS Database subtley ties the two worlds together. A Madnar was also responsible for Big Boss being a cyborg in Metal Gear 2 according to the DB IIRC. Its possible that the discarded cyborg bodies of Raiden and Big Boss are used as the first prototypes for full cybernetic Snatchers.

 

[Haunted]

someone post the cyborg photoshop overlayed with the crumbling mask earlier but it's not cleaned up and there's the timer obstructing the image.

I like the image a lot, so I made some rough cleaner version here.

looks so emo

 

[Callibretto]

looks so emo

he already looks emo even without the make up.:lol

 

[alba]

All this talk about snatchers in mgs, bring on E3 haha.

EDIT: I do hope it's sunny though.

 

[Jackl]

I'd be pretty emo too if I didn't have a lower jaw and probably 80% of my original body as well.

Raiden has seen some hard days apparently.

Edit: And if its Sunny...well fuck.

 

[Sword Familiar]

Like I said before, the MGS Database subtley ties the two worlds together. A Madnar was also responsible for Big Boss being a cyborg in Metal Gear 2 according to the DB IIRC. Its possible that the discarded cyborg bodies of Raiden and Big Boss are used as the first prototypes for full cybernetic Snatchers.

Still worth pointing out that it's not the same world though. In Snatcher, 80% of Europe/Euroasia's population is wiped out by a biohazard outbreak in the 90's, but in the MG world, this didn't happen.

At first, I thought that "Big Boss"'s emblem, showing a skull on the european side, may have been a reference to this outbreak. However, reading up on the timelines made me realise that it didn't make any sense. I'm sure there will be plenty of Snatcher references in this new game as well, but we won't be seeing any connecting worlds. That is, if Kojima even remembers his own timelines

Spoiler

or bases the next MGS in the Snatcher universe

.

 

[RetroMG]

For those talking about how expensive the PS3 is/hoping for a price drop, I just recently got a 40gb PS3 off of Ebay for $230, which I thought was a pretty solid deal. You might want to hold off until after E3, but there are ways to make the PS3 affordable.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Like I said before, the MGS Database subtley ties the two worlds together. A Madnar was also responsible for Big Boss being a cyborg in Metal Gear 2 according to the DB IIRC. Its possible that the discarded cyborg bodies of Raiden and Big Boss are used as the first prototypes for full cybernetic Snatchers.

Huh. That makes sense.

 

[Xun]

Still worth pointing out that it's not the same world though. In Snatcher, 80% of Europe/Euroasia's population is wiped out by a biohazard outbreak in the 90's, but in the MG world, this didn't happen.

At first, I thought that "Big Boss"'s emblem, showing a skull on the european side, may have been a reference to this outbreak. However, reading up on the timelines made me realise that it didn't make any sense. I'm sure there will be plenty of Snatcher references in this new game as well, but we won't be seeing any connecting worlds. That is, if Kojima even remembers his own timelines

Spoiler

or bases the next MGS in the Snatcher universe

.

What's to say the dates aren't changed?

Though personally I doubt they'd properly bridge the 2 series together.

 

[Blader]

- also we don't know why Sunny is a freak ( did Kojima ever explain why the lil bitch is super smart in MGS4 ? ) .

She was raised by AIs

 

[Zen]

If that is Sunny, Otacon clearly failed as a single dad. :lol

 

[Vyse The Legend]

Heads up: In the new episode of Qore, they mention that a new Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is coming to PSP. So, as speculated, MGS Next is probably multiple games.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Heads up: In the new episode of Qore, they mention that a new Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is coming to PSP. So, as speculated, MGS Next is probably multiple games.

I wonder if sony's going to attend E3 this year.

 

[FrankT]

Heads up: In the new episode of Qore, they mention that a new Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is coming to PSP. So, as speculated, MGS Next is probably multiple games.

Interesting

 

[Victarion]

Heads up: In the new episode of Qore, they mention that a new Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is coming to PSP. So, as speculated, MGS Next is probably multiple games.

nooooooooooooo... really?

 

[Deleted member 30609]

I wonder if sony's going to attend E3 this year.

...

:lol

 

[Red Blaster]

Hmm, that 7-Eleven leak was probably right then.

 

[Kastro]

Heads up: In the new episode of Qore, they mention that a new Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops is coming to PSP. So, as speculated, MGS Next is probably multiple games.

I find this confusing. How has the story of Metal Gear after MGS4 not been tapped out by now?

I just don't see what a new prequel can add to anything we don't already know. Big Boss was a good guy who got fucked over and became a "villain".. we get it already.

 

[Y2Kev]

I'm a pretty big fan of Portable Ops. So I am excited for this. This will tell the next story in the chapter of Big Boss.

How has the story of Metal Gear after MGS4 not been tapped out by now?

portable ops 2 will cover the second chapter of Big Boss' post-MGS3 saga. Before MG1.

 

[Prothero]

Is anyone else reminded of a burial mask by that mask image on the KojiPro website?

 

[SolidSnakex]

It kind of makes sense that this would be a PSP game now that I think about it. IGN translated the Famitsu article and said it could imply that Kojima thinks that the games release won't be too far off. There's no way that a console MG would fit that description so soon after MGS4, but a portable one certainly would fit it.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

I CALLED IT!!

PS3 is getting Raiden's (or whoever that is)'s story, PSP is getting Big Boss' story!

 

[Totobeni]

so MGS for PSP again ..

so it seems the Ninja is Grey Fox/Null after all and not Sunny ..

 

[Kastro]

portable ops 2 will cover the second chapter of Big Boss' post-MGS3 saga. Before MG1.

Portable Ops leads pretty much directly into MG1 with Big Boss establishing Foxhound at the end of the game, etc.

Why would Gray Fox have Raiden's suit that wasn't developed until after Gray Fox already died? He also wasn't even a cyborg prior to Metal Gear Solid

Gray Fox theory makes less sense than Sunny.

 

[Spiegel]

Did they say Portable OPS? or just Metal Gear?

 

[Backflip]

According to something I found on Famitsu's website, what can be seen on the teaser website is the &#24051; chinese sign, and not an "e". More info there : http://www.jv247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1210

If this has already been mentioned, I apologize.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Did they say Portable OPS? or just Metal Gear?

He just said "a new Metal Gear Solid".

 

[longdi]

it was quite obvious what. mgs po2 for psp and mgr for ps3 and 360. then the lord of shadows for ps3 and 360 too. you guys really think too much. :lol

 

[Spiegel]

He just said "a new Metal Gear Solid".

Great.

I don't want another Portable OPS

 

[°°ToMmY°°]

fuck yes! portable ops all over my face!

 

[longdi]

Great.

I don't want another Portable OPS

the controls on psp is not so easy but the level progresion and story is better than mgs4.