Without tracks and cars, it's nothing more than a demo
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PS+ version of Driveclub will have 5 tracks (1 country) and 10 cars.
- Thread starter ShogunDarius
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It's in the OP
Second big quote.
While that is usually true, the impression certainly I got was that it was going to be a long turnover game, like Infamous 2 and Uncharted GA that stay long term. That was why I assumed the game would be of some substance.
To be honest I don't remember what happened when either of those hit. Did they not have anything in their place for the following months?
I only tend to check IGC stuff whenever I see a GAF thread telling me what's coming up, so if a month was skipped, the chances are, I wouldn't even notice.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Sweet. It'll be nice to get a feel for the game before deciding whether to buy it.
I mean- I read that quote in the context of their huge PS PLUS blowout that had DC front and center.
So yea, I expected more.
Megatron
Member
That word gets thown around way too much. It' not entitlement, the game isn't free, we pay for it through our plus subscription. For a lot of us, Driveclub is the one game we have been looking forward to for PSPlus as it's not an indie title. Also the initial quote was
Missing a few cars? Well I guess we'll see how many the game winds up having, but dropping it down to 10 seems like it will be way more than 'a few'. I guess if there's only 15 cars in the game, this will still be true, but if it's 40 cars or 50 or 100? Dropping down to 10 can in no way be justified as 'a few'.
On top of that, they told us the game would be out at LAUNCH and then when they very quietly delayed that, they only told us it would be ready 'soon' but refused to give a date. All those people who bought PSPlus subscriptions with their PS4 expecting to get Driveclub soon will now have to buy another PSPlus subscription if they want to play it more than a month. Putting us through that delay should have made us get a better version of the game, it sounds like they probably took more out of it to get more purchases and try to make up the cost of the delay. It's okay to not defend the company when they do something shady, and this certainly seems like it could fit.
Could you please link me to these free Playstation Plus subscriptions you are getting? Because I am paying for this.
Sound like it really so atleast 20+ tracks.
To be fair the focus on the game has likely changed. As a launch title I could imagine them being more generous with the initial Plus version - small install base and a nice reward for the really early guys. Sales expectations would be less on the smaller install base and the game would probably have been more DLC focused over time.
Now it's launching to a bigger install base and needs to show good sales to be counted as a success - easy to see why they'd reduce the Plus content version. They knew not honouring it would attract a lot of criticism so the answer? Deliver the Plus version but make it smaller and put the focus on buying the full game.
That's how I see it anyway from the available info - without any definitive view of what content was planned for the initial launch date Plus and retail vs the new one and whether there really is more/less it's hard to be sure though.
NullPointer
Member
Don't pay for PS+ and see how much of this game content you get access to.
I've always planned on picking up the full version of this game anyway, so never expected much out of this slim-line demo version.
Do we know the full game's track and car count?
Amentallica
Unconfirmed Member
I'd like to know what demo means to each of you.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Alternatively, the month Drive Club comes out, they could up the PS4 PS+ free game count to 3 and have Drive Club be the 3rd game for a year or whatever before replacing it with something else. Make it feel like Drive Club is a cool extra and not a below average PS+ month.
In short, Drive Club was supposed to be a highlight of how great PS+ is, but if they don't play their cards right, it could drive a lot of people off.
In short, Drive Club was supposed to be a highlight of how great PS+ is, but if they don't play their cards right, it could drive a lot of people off.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Thanks, that's great and within what I was hoping/expecting.
this isn't Gran Turismo. there are no vans.
Driveclub is all about high end sports cars. That's all there is.
fitzawesome
Banned
So it's an overhyped demo? Great.
Galactic Barret
Member
Why is everyone glossing over "assets"? Thats a pretty key word.
A few assets such as cars and tracks v.s. a few cars and tracks. Thats a pretty big difference.
A few assets such as cars and tracks v.s. a few cars and tracks. Thats a pretty big difference.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Pretty sweet to have 10 cars. What's the total in the game I wonder.
blazeuk
Member
Sounds like Sony has spent too much time and money on it to be able to deliver what they actually intended so we've ended up with a slightly cut down version of the full game turning into a hugely cut down version of the game. Not big on racing games in general so it will still probably be good enough for me, but I can absolutely see why some are disappointed.
BibiMaghoo
Member
Yes, new games came in, but they were there for a year, and I think still are maybe, I've not checked. That bumps the numbers of available games but is a shitter for people like me that burn through them. With this game, I expected - and still expect - it to fill this shoe for PS4, to be the game that stays in the collection long term, and a demo just doesn't cut it at all.
Because that wasn't all that was said. This was:
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Most are simply calling it what it is. A demo.
fitzawesome
Banned
You're lucky to not have to pay for PS plus.
TrueGrime
Member
Thread title. 5 tracks and 10 cars.
Edit: My impression of a demo is 1 track and 1 car.
EatinOlives
Member
I think it's easy to expect close to a full game considering that PS+ game giveaways are always a full game, never a demo, even a "beefy" one.
On the other hand, DC is different because the PS+ version is releasing exactly at launch, so by definition it can't be the full game.
On a "third" hand, DC having a free PS+ version was the main thing that Sony used to sweep the pay-to-play multiplayer on the PS4 thing under the rug. Delaying the game a year and then revealing it's little more than a beefy demo is kinda underhanded.
On the "fourth" hand, the terminology was vague and open to interpretation. They can (and most likely will) easily claim that "full game minus a few cars and tracks" means "full game minus 75% of content" and still technically be consistent with what they said last year.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I highly doubt if we are going to start getting 2 PS4 PS+ games per month. I expect the usual 1 PS4 game per month to continue going forward. Not really expecting much.
NullPointer
Member
The word 'free' has been taking a serious beating for a long time now.
That's the PS+ version though, right? I'm wondering how that compares to the full retail version of the game.
He's asking about the full game. And no, we don't know that answer yet.
What is a big difference? Cars and tracks are assets, it's missing a few assets. That's irrelevant anyway, because they specifically used both phrases.
dugdug
Banned
I agree they worded things poorly and over-promised.
But, at the same time, everyone should have known from the start that it would be a gimped version. They called it PS+ Edition for a reason.
Smart thing for Sony to do here would be to *not* let it be October's PS4 IGC game. Just add it to the roster for that month.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
I really would like to play the "demos" these guys are playing if 5 tracks and ten cars with full online is a demo.
This is more than enough for me. I have no intention of buying the full game but yet I'm getting a decent percentage of the experience anyway.
And really, who thought they were getting the full free game? Are you really that stupid?
Even if Sony promised the full game, there would of been a catch. No publisher in the world is going to fund a complete full game and then give it away for free.
The thread title shows how many cars and tracks are in the PS+ version. He's wondering how many are in the full version.
Haloid1177
Banned
Not even gonna download if that's the case.
chrominance
Member
It's a pretty big demo and it's a discount on the full game. Fine with me!
That said, did they seriously say that rear-view mirrors will NOT show cars, only the environment? Huh?
That said, did they seriously say that rear-view mirrors will NOT show cars, only the environment? Huh?
TrueGrime
Member
Ah Got'cha! My bad.
schaft0620
Member
They should of just called it a demo
Pre-download cancelled.
Where did you hear that? We've already seen gifs with cars being shown in the rear view.
dugdug
Banned
Oh, come on.
4 (or is it 5?) countries have been revealed so far, so that's already a lot more content offered in the full version. Then there's unrevealed countries adding to that amount of content.
gundamkyoukai
Member
People do know the game was delay a year chances are more content has been adding since then .
What might seem like a fair amount of content at launch for the PS + version should be less now.
Truth is after the game get delay a year had a feeling they would have to make hard choices year of dev time don't come cheap .
What might seem like a fair amount of content at launch for the PS + version should be less now.
Truth is after the game get delay a year had a feeling they would have to make hard choices year of dev time don't come cheap .
That's what I'm hoping.
If October has DriveClub PS+ AND the usual Indie game, I'll be very happy.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
As I recall Plus members would receive a special version of the game that was maybe a little more than your typical demo.
In typical fashion some gamers over expected and are now upset because they're not getting the majority of the game for free. You guys do realize Sony wants to sell copies of this right? How would they do so if they were giving every Plus owner the version you imagined?
In typical fashion some gamers over expected and are now upset because they're not getting the majority of the game for free. You guys do realize Sony wants to sell copies of this right? How would they do so if they were giving every Plus owner the version you imagined?
entremet
Member
Not that I remember. It was purposely vague.