Where do they sell these PSN Capable PS1? ;P
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PS Vita firmware 1.8 is the one to watch for PSOne Classics
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Where do they sell these PSN Capable PS1? ;P
Doesn't matter if there's a million new games if the PS1 games are what interest me more. Not going to avoid checking out old movies or old books just because newer ones are filmed or written.
Canis lupus
Member
Sony really need to change the PS Store and launch PS Mobile soon. Vita store should be filled with Play Store/Appstore type games.
You mean RemotePlay. There are a few compatible ones. I don't have the list handy.
Shuhei mentioned that the ICO and the GoW collections are being patched to add higher resolution RemotePlay support. I remember you can also RemotePlay PS1 games from PS3.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Some PS1 games have aged well, and are still fun to play. Its nice to have access to the old library.
I wonder if Sony has cut the budget of the Firmware dev team after the lackluster Vita sales.. is that why it takes them so long? It's just bizarre to me.. they should be doing everything they can to at least cover their basis. PS1 support should have been there from day 1.
Do you know why only a few are compatible? I remember that it is possible to use this feature with a psp with all the games (don't know if cfw), no?
Nintendo are inept so that's not really saying much. I just want a vast JRPG library on my Vita and PS1 games are unplayable on my TV so I haven't even played Vagrant Story yet
Meant PS3, lol.
MotionBlue
Member
Because many classics are better than a majority of the games that come out now.
With a PS3 with CFW then yes it is possible to get it working on all games, however it looks janky on a fair few of them. But Sony should have enabled more by now. Sony should have done lots of things. I suppose they only have a certain amount of people to do things and we have no idea what they are doing. It might be PS4 OS stuff, it might be Vita OS stuff. Who knows.
The simple reason that it isn't available on more was because the PS3 was designed in such a way that developers had to support such features, thereby removing some CPU/GPU/RAM from their clutches.
With the Vita they have wisely done the OS so that things like cross game chat run in the OS and not the game. So Developers can't claw back any performance by not supporting it. They don't even have a choice.
Similarly things like the Screenshot function on the Vita devs have to opt OUT rather than in. There is no performance hit that I'm aware of so the only reason we can fathom is because some (many) Vita games look a bit ragged in screens.
C'mon now, let's not put the rose tinted glasses on to quickly.
There are a lot of reasons to want to have access to vintage games. I frankly want to FINALLY beat FF8, and having it on the go will help me in that quest. I also happen to love playing Twisted Metal 2 to this day, but I wont pretend TM: Black and Twisted Metal (2012) weren't superior games.
Nope RemotePlay was never a universal feature officially. A CFW PS3 turned it on for all games, but the final experience may not be consistent (e.g., Last of Us may choke if it pushes the limit further).
And that would be very clever of you. Well done.
H_Prestige
Banned
LOL, only 12 games per quarter. Can somebody find out how many ps1 games are currently up and calculate how many years it will take Sony to catch up? The ps4 is going to be so pathetic, lol.
Releasing PS1 support like this is almost like no support at all. Sony is just asking for hackers to break their system again. Just release complete backwards compatibility with PS1 games already!
I understand with PS2 games it needs to be done in this slow trickle manner, but there is absolutely no excuse for PS1 games!
I understand with PS2 games it needs to be done in this slow trickle manner, but there is absolutely no excuse for PS1 games!
H_Prestige
Banned
Why can't they just unlock every ps1 game and have a page where users can report issues as they find them? You know, the same way they handled BC during the ps3 launch.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
I can't believe they would seriously only release 12 a quarter. I'm still hopeful that every game on PSN will be playable day one since it hasn't been confirmed yet either way. But, that would be crazy to only put out 12 a quarter, unless they put out a fuck ton right off the bat.
Metal Gear, Final Fantasy VII, and Vagrant Story day one, or I will be pissed. Let this overly entitled gamer give you his money, Sony!
demigod
Member
I'm gonna have to go with "bs" on this one. Oh and FF7 doesn't look bad on the Vita. In fact, it looks better than playing it on PS3.
This makes more sense. Why would they release the PSP Emulator and only release 12 games totally?
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
I'm not buying games with my own money to be a beta tester. I'd say they botched that BC but it turned out alright.
Uhh... PS Minis?
GalacticAE
Member
This thing needs a better crack already so it can start doing what Sony is slow to implement. Like psx games, better media playback and transferring, and a e-reader/comic reader. The vita will be godlike once homebrew devs start doing work on it.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I really wonder if their PS1 emulator will end up being some really advanced stuff that upscales games internally, filters textures etc. like ePSXe on PC does. I don't understand why else they'd be delaying it so much when they were able to run a completely faithful PS1 emulator on a lowly PSP. If they wanted just that on Vita, they could have recompiled that for day 1 release.
H_Prestige
Banned
It's just the same bare bones, no frills emulator but with a couple of vita specific options. No reason to take six months and then have to test each game individually. They should all run pretty much perfectly. We're not talking about ps2 emulation here.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
From what I can gather, there has been one source for each theory. IGN says they were told all at once, Joystiq said they were told in waves. Every place else has just been using them as a source and Sony hasn't said shit (which probably isn't a good sign). A gaffer says they were told 12 games a quarter, and while I'm sure he's not lying, the people running the booths at e3 don't always know what the fuck they're talking about.
And now, here we are.
I made a thread shortly after Vita came out lambasting Sony for all this. Many people told me I was being impatient and entitled, but even back then, it was plain to see that it was going to go in this direction.
Sony doesn't have a CLUE what they are doing, they are constantly fucking up, and not following through on initiatives. I have no idea what is going on with the company, but it is scary.
I heard they are only releasing 12 every quarter, but the others can be downloaded to PS3 and then transfarr'd over.
It's better like that.
JPN store has +1000 Game Archive titles last time I checked.
Here is what i read on the other forum
Thought i share it because ive just discovered it myself, wasnt sure if it was already posted.
I tried copying a ps1 game and i notice it has:
"when using on a ps vita system"
"connect the ps vita system using a usb cable, and then start content manager on the pa vita system"
Seems like now we just need a vita update for it to work.
Thought i share it because ive just discovered it myself, wasnt sure if it was already posted.
I tried copying a ps1 game and i notice it has:
"when using on a ps vita system"
"connect the ps vita system using a usb cable, and then start content manager on the pa vita system"
Seems like now we just need a vita update for it to work.
I'm going to just wait for Sony to tell us what they are doing rather than taking the word of a guy who spoke to a rep on the trade floor who, (honestly) might not know his arsehole from his elbow.
Especially when Elios83, who (iirc) seems to typically be fairly good, says something different.
News sites can't even agree on what is happening.
H_Prestige
Banned
WTF how do they have so many?
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
I have no clue what this is or means.
EDIT: Doing some googling, so they have some games from systems outside of the PS on there? Crazy. Sony needs to step up their game in the US.
Game Archives is mainly PS1, there's also a couple dozen PC Engine and Neo Geo games too.
The US PSN has games from all of those systems, just not nearly as many. Sadly, I don't think any region is getting any more PC Engine (aka TG-16) games, since Konami's pretty much shut down Hudson. It's a shame since the TG-16 emulator is really good on every system and all the released games work on the PS3, PSP, and Vita.
On a side note, does this news suggest that we're getting a firmware update 1.7 in July that doesn't have PS1 support? And Sony Japan wants us to know that it's in 1.8 so everybody doesn't freak out when 1.7 hits?
mohsinkhan
Member
Its threads like this that make me want a vita so bad
GillaTheGorilla
Member
Do it! Step into the light!
DJmizuhara
Member
Sorry I had too.
what movie is this ?
Marty Chinn
Member
Not sure if new...
A few PSOne games made it to Playstation Certified hardware earlier this month ago:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/07/0...other-psone-titles-hit-the-playstation-store/
It is possible that the PSOne compatibility team is working on the software run-time for multiple hardwares at the same time.
If PSOne compatibility is indeed coming in August-September timeframe, it's actually very close now (Mostly just last minute fixes, and QA, QA, QA).
If they have 1.7x fixes, they should just roll everything into 1.8 and focus on 1 big testing effort -- unless 1.7x contains security updates.
Isn't that at least the second run of PS1 games hitting PS Certified? Crash Bandicoot was in the first group over a year ago.
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/1...ash-bandicoot-sims-3-pre-installed-at-launch/
From what I understand, PS Certified releases require a separate submission from publishers than regular PSN PS1 Classics, and they require a separate purchase. The slow roll-out of PS1 games on PS Certified is most likely due to excruciatingly slow sales and all the extra publisher work required.
If Sony's using the same emulation core in PS Certified devices and the Vita, the above suggests they had a retail ready emulator a year before the Vita launched in the US. Granted, there's another 1000 games or so they needed to test in Japan and the PSP emulation to work on too, but it seems strange that a year later they still don't have relatively simple features on the Vita emulator shown at E3, such as analog input.