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[Beer Monkey]

edit:wrong thread.

 

[Crisis]

Microsoft isn't even the publisher any more. It could simply be that sales are much higher for the 360 and EA is pandering to that base.

If it doesn't ship day-and-date it could be one of those things where EA is trying to reduce piracy but shipping the PC version later than the console version.

I get this feeling that you posted that in the wrong thread.

 

[Oneself]

faster xmb sounds good to me

Sounds good to me too.

 

[Beer Monkey]

I get this feeling that you posted that in the wrong thread.

Yeah, I edited it before you clicked "post".

 

[infinityBCRT]

It has at least one thing in it that people will want.
But the feature won't be immediately useful.

cross game voice chat confirmed! :lol

 

[Crisis]

Yeah, I edited it before you clicked "post".

It would appear so. You must've beaten me by seconds!

 

[patsu]

I wonder how far they can tweak this data.

They could have various forms of data attached to messages, a system standard (not just limited to invites and game launching). Maybe we can send each other complete image/controller calibrations for games we love and more.

I thought the Develope magazine mentioned that the format is based on XML ? If so, it'd be easily extensible. The Home game launching uses it to specify session preferences (e.g., number of players, maps, game type, ...)

 

[Fersis]

I get this feeling that you posted that in the wrong thread.

Or maybe Microsoft is publishing the firmware update? dun dun duuun

 

[Beer Monkey]

I thought the Develope magazine mentioned that the format is based on XML ? If so, it'd be easily extensible. The Home game launching uses it to specify session preferences (e.g., number of players, maps, game type, ...)

That's excellent, it could even be used to include scripted replays of in-game events (send somebody a spectacular crash, explosion, or that killer golf shot).

 

[XTERC]

Complete guess... Maybe something to do with Bluetooth / PSPGo functionality for devs to implement?

 

[androvsky]

Hmm, managed copy supports portable devices as long as they support WMV with DRM. Maybe the update will support loading up Zunes with managed copies of Blu-Ray movies!

:lol :lol :lol

Spoiler

Well, since the PS3 is the only current blu-ray player with even the slightest chance of supporting managed copy, that will probably happen. Managed copy allows for other DRM schemes, they just have to apply to have them added (Apple conspicuously has not applied for iTunes support). I'm hoping whatever Sony uses for PSN video will be an option so the PSP can finally get decent digital copy support.

 

[Crisis]

Or maybe Microsoft is publishing the firmware update? dun dun duuun

PS3 Update SP1.

 

[pswii60]

Or maybe Microsoft is publishing the firmware update? dun dun duuun

Well you'd finally get all the features you want but the XMB would lock up all the fucking time during a game.

 

[Beer Monkey]

Well, since the PS3 is the only current blu-ray player with even the slightest chance of supporting managed copy, that will probably happen. Managed copy allows for other DRM schemes, they just have to apply to have them added (Apple conspicuously has not applied for iTunes support). I'm hoping whatever Sony uses for PSN video will be an option so the PSP can finally get decent digital copy support.

I liked Sony's original idea where they would include a pre-downrezzed movie on the disc for portables, that way they would only need to apply the DRM before copying to an approved device. It was going to be way faster than waiting an hour or more for the movie to be copied and converted.

 

[DrXym]

Hmm, managed copy supports portable devices as long as they support WMV with DRM. Maybe the update will support loading up Zunes with managed copies of Blu-Ray movies!

:lol :lol :lol

Spoiler

Managed copy is in general a complete and total waste of time. It makes an encrypted copy of the movie, it doesn't transcode it into a smaller file. So if you make a managed copy of The Godfather, the copy is 45Gb big. So kiss your PS3's HDD space goodbye. It's not like a portable copy where the disk contains 1gb file for Zune / PSP / iPod and the only way I see portable and managed copy crossing is if happens to be a portable copy of the movie on the disk too and MC supports it, or some players gain transcoding ability.

The time where MC might be useful is for people with video / streaming servers with the necessary multi-Tb storage to take advantage of the feature. For everyone else it's a useless feature. I'd add that if you did want to take a copy of the movie, you can already do it through AnyDVD and probably will continue to be able to until BD+ becomes more prevalent.

 

[patsu]

That's excellent, it could even be used to include scripted replays of in-game events (send somebody a spectacular crash, explosion, or that killer golf shot).

Err... that would be dangerous.

Home could be very interesting if Sony opens it up for user-generated content. But it looks like they are too s-l-o-w in approving the internal proposal, or too scared to do so.

 

[kuYuri]

COD4 doesn't have rumble or trophies to this day haha.

They had plenty of time. No excuses really.

For rumble? I agree.

 

[PjotrStroganov]

cross game voice chat confirmed! :lol

I believe cross game voicechat would be something that is not game specific and be therefore directly available with the update. Cross game invite/launch is game specific and would only be possible for games that support it.

 

[alex1893]

haha this bothers me too. Whenever I am playing PSP I always hit the home key to check the time while playing a game. It's natural instinct for me to want to do the same thing on PS3 and it doesn't work right away. :lol

crazy... I noticed this but it never bothered me. With pressing the home button I want to see the status of the battery, I never used it to check the time so it's fine for me. They should optimize it so that there's no overlapping, just the battery state to see, then the time... or to get along with all people: make it customizable to switch between "show battery, then time" or the other way round.

 

[Slaylock]

While we're talking about firmware, when I exit and restart a Blu-ray movie, it doesn't continue from the point I exited. I remember this working before, but now it just restarts the movie (or goes to the main menu).

Does this work for anyone else?

 

[epmode]

While we're talking about firmware, when I exit and restart a Blu-ray movie, it doesn't continue from the point I exited. I remember this working before, but now it just restarts the movie (or goes to the main menu).

Does this work for anyone else?

I'm pretty sure that this is on a title by title basis, kind of like how some discs allow you to skip the stupidly long legal warnings but most don't. Blame the jackasses who authored the thing.

 

[DrXym]

While we're talking about firmware, when I exit and restart a Blu-ray movie, it doesn't continue from the point I exited. I remember this working before, but now it just restarts the movie (or goes to the main menu).

Does this work for anyone else?

It only works on HDMV movies - those which use the DVD-like menu navigation system. Most BDs these days use BD-J (Java apps) for their UI and there is no spec for bookmarking positions on disks.

It shouldn't be hard for BD-J disks to save their "last played" position in storage at the start of every chapter, and to honour it when they restart, but none do. It really should be covered by a spec that is mandatory for new disks to implement.

 

[fatty]

I'd be happy if they'd finally make it where the Madcatz arcade sticks are backwards compatible with PS2 games.

 

[koam]

Ugh another 20 minute wait before i can download some songs and play rockband. I hate these forced updates they suck shit (yes they are forced, i can never enter the store without updating).

 

[xenorevlis]

Ugh another 20 minute wait before i can download some songs and play rockband. I hate these forced updates they suck shit (yes they are forced, i can never enter the store without updating).

Jesus, what kind of internet are you on? Most firmware updates take less than a minute or two to download and maybe 3-5 to install. I'm on Comcast cable internet with a 40GB SKU.

 

[jonabbey]

Why would a software feature be removed from the PS3 Slim? There's no special "Linux" chip on a PS3.

Because any PS3 that was purchased to run Linux is a PS3 that Sony is not realizing game or video sales for. Sony has essentially been subsidizing the cost of PS3s sold for Linux with the game and video sales that the non-Linux PS3s have been realizing.

It won't change the unit cost of the system, Sony is just trying to get rid of the free riders.. and possibly support costs for the virtualization enviroment that OtherOS runs under.

Assuming all this is true, of course.

 

[epmode]

Most firmware updates take less than a minute or two to download

Nowhere near that on my system. The wireless is garbage on my launch 60GB. It's the only computer in my house with this problem.

 

[Oni Jazar]

While we're talking about firmware, when I exit and restart a Blu-ray movie, it doesn't continue from the point I exited. I remember this working before, but now it just restarts the movie (or goes to the main menu).

Does this work for anyone else?

Only works on movies that don't have BD-J menus. If you see a loading animation when you put in the disc then it will not support resume.

 

[androvsky]

Managed copy is in general a complete and total waste of time. It makes an encrypted copy of the movie, it doesn't transcode it into a smaller file. So if you make a managed copy of The Godfather, the copy is 45Gb big. So kiss your PS3's HDD space goodbye. It's not like a portable copy where the disk contains 1gb file for Zune / PSP / iPod and the only way I see portable and managed copy crossing is if happens to be a portable copy of the movie on the disk too and MC supports it, or some players gain transcoding ability.

The time where MC might be useful is for people with video / streaming servers with the necessary multi-Tb storage to take advantage of the feature. For everyone else it's a useless feature. I'd add that if you did want to take a copy of the movie, you can already do it through AnyDVD and probably will continue to be able to until BD+ becomes more prevalent.

There's a reason most current players can't support managed copy, transcoding looks like a requirement (full requirements here). 415k is a required copy resolution, as is full blu-ray resolution. I checked and Sony's Magic Gate on Memory Sticks is an allowed (possibly required) output, so the PSP is probably covered (page 143).

 

[badcrumble]

Because any PS3 that was purchased to run Linux is a PS3 that Sony is not realizing game or video sales for. Sony has essentially been subsidizing the cost of PS3s sold for Linux with the game and video sales that the non-Linux PS3s have been realizing.

It won't change the unit cost of the system, Sony is just trying to get rid of the free riders.. and possibly support costs for the virtualization enviroment that OtherOS runs under.

Assuming all this is true, of course.

I don't think there are hordes of people buying PS3s for Linux.

 

[Jim]

Nowhere near that on my system. The wireless is garbage on my launch 60GB. It's the only computer in my house with this problem.

Many of the latest updates have been tiny, incremental patches, not full fw downloads.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

The new one.

So, you are saying IW is going to exclude this yet-to-be-named feature in MW2? Is it a feature that is present in the X360 version?

 

[jonabbey]

I don't think there are hordes of people buying PS3s for Linux.

There were a good number at the launch, for research and computation purposes. These days commodity PCs with high end programmable GPUs are taking the place of PS3s running Linux for cheap gigaflops.

I was just hypothesizing anyway. Who knows why Sony ever does the things it does any more?

 

[Wollan]

So, you are saying IW is going to exclude this yet-to-be-named feature in MW2? Is it a feature that is present in the X360 version?

Just joking about their COD4 support.

 

[Roxas]

I'll throw my hat into the ring for some kind of in-game screenshot thingy..

 

[ShinoguTakeruKoeru]

I'll throw my hat into the ring for some kind of in-game screenshot thingy..

Some games already have that, sure it's not across all games but methinks that's as far as Sony'll push it.

 

[theBishop]

Because any PS3 that was purchased to run Linux is a PS3 that Sony is not realizing game or video sales for. Sony has essentially been subsidizing the cost of PS3s sold for Linux with the game and video sales that the non-Linux PS3s have been realizing.

It won't change the unit cost of the system, Sony is just trying to get rid of the free riders.. and possibly support costs for the virtualization enviroment that OtherOS runs under.

Assuming all this is true, of course.

Any PS3 that was "purchased for linux" is likely purchased for CELL development, which means more PS3 game support.

 

[CHRP718]

More firmware updates is fine with me
Another incremental update to the get things ready for 3.00

 

[jonabbey]

Any PS3 that was "purchased for linux" is likely purchased for CELL development, which means more PS3 game support.

We have some scientific researchers in the building here who bought the PS3 for Cell development, but not for PS3 games.. they were doing data crunching with them.

Again, I'm not claiming that any significant number of people are doing this, compared to the PS3's sales.. Sony has more to worry about PS3 owners who do nothing more than watch lower margin Blu-Ray movies than they do from the Linux folk.

 

[Leatherface]

The new "feature" is my PS3 getting bricked. I'm holding off on this one until I see the damage on GAF. lol

 

[oneHeero]

Just joking about their COD4 support.

Why are you joking? IW ignored ps3 in terms of support. Well at least they ended up finally fixing their party system. I remember when it was impossible to join parties. They never fixed the host problem, never added rumble, never added trophies(dont care bout that). For a game that sold so much and even on the ps3, you'd think they'd provide more support. Its a damn shame, glad that IW never gets mentioned in top dev/publishers/etc topics.

 

[chubigans]

Some games already have that, sure it's not across all games but methinks that's as far as Sony'll push it.

Pretty much. Ghostbusters and MLB 09 the Show supports it, and a few games support it via their own software.

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

Why are you joking? IW ignored ps3 in terms of support. Well at least they ended up finally fixing their party system. I remember when it was impossible to join parties. They never fixed the host problem, never added rumble, never added trophies(dont care bout that). For a game that sold so much and even on the ps3, you'd think they'd provide more support. Its a damn shame, glad that IW never gets mentioned in top dev/publishers/etc topics.

just because sony released the dualshock 3 and trophies late to the party doesn't mean the devs have to go back and patch them.
if anything, blame sony for not getting their stuff straight right from the start (who can blame them really, coming from a controller lawsuit and a generation with little to non-existent online gaming).
complain all you want about broken party sytems, connection issues and whatnot, bugs etc., but blaming IW for not putting trophies and rumble is silly to me.

 

[Cruzader]

I'll throw my hat into the ring for some kind of in-game screenshot thingy..

Im pretty sure that feature is already on the PS3. Only problem is support from devs. There are a few but not many. Also PS3 lacks a "screen shot button" so the feature is useless.

 

[badcrumble]

More firmware updates is fine with me
Another incremental update to the get things ready for 3.00

No reason to expect anything special from 3.00 except for a bunch of made up rumors from people who don't understand how Sony is handling versioning. 2.00 was a blip on the radar when it came to user-end features.

 

[MidgarBlowedUp]

I'd like to see Blutooth printer support. I have a nice Canon printer with blutooth that I can use with any computer I have from anywhere in the house but the PS3 requires me to connect it via USB. No Thanks.

 

[VegaShinra]

No reason to expect anything special from 3.00 except for a bunch of made up rumors from people who don't understand how Sony is handling versioning. 2.00 was a blip on the radar when it came to user-end features.

Exactly. Didn't Sony say something like the numbers mean nothing to them? Just because it's 2.00 or 3.00 doesn't mean it'll me a major announcement.

 

[vag 2.0]

yeah man fuck sony for supporting their software with regular feature and performance updates

they should do something productive like rereleasing their entire back catalogue with trophies so i can make numbers go up wont that be fun

*adjusts khaki shorts*

 

[Puck]

plzfixtheclock plzfixtheclock

I haven't bothered resynching the clock with the server after it got out a whack a few months ago, i installed a nice LED clock next to my TV

 

[Felix Lighter]

Why are you joking? IW ignored ps3 in terms of support. Well at least they ended up finally fixing their party system. I remember when it was impossible to join parties. They never fixed the host problem, never added rumble, never added trophies(dont care bout that). For a game that sold so much and even on the ps3, you'd think they'd provide more support. Its a damn shame, glad that IW never gets mentioned in top dev/publishers/etc topics.

Out of curiosity what 3rd party developers went back and added trophy and rumble support? Criterion?