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PS4 does not support CD and SACD
- Thread starter gembel
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I think we should set a standard definition that "Backwards Compatibility" means you can use the original media of the previous device on the new device.
Streaming, Digital-Download, Remake, Remaster, etc... should not count as "Backwards Compatibility".
Otherwise I could say that my Phone is backwards compatible with film since I can watch old movie clips on YouTube.
Boss Man
Member
Do you know this or are you just saying that you think that'll be the case? I was expecting native PS1 and PS2. I hope they get the ball rolling on that Gaikai solution quickly.
Zombie James
Banned
Maybe they're using a less expensive lens that only reads DVD and Blu-ray? I don't know, but sounds weird to me. I can't image the cost savings (if any) would be that high.
Boss Man
Member
That's not really fair because YouTube exists as a free service for any device on the Internet. The reason you don't say that is because anyone can get on YouTube with any thing and it's also not really for watching films.
I get where you're coming from though, and I know the answer: if you can play the games that you have already purchased for a previous platform on it, it's BC.
strangedopamine
Member
Yes, so I can keep playing Vib Ribbon with my ever increasing music collection.
~Devil Trigger~
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i think thats what they're thinking
Like alot of Laptops and tablets(obviously) dont support any disc.
and personally, I have'nt use my PS3 for CDs ever, the music i have on it are all mp3.
So what's the bandwidth quantity used to stream one hour of PSone gaming through Gaikai, assume a 4mbps stream - 1.8GB in an hour? So I end up using more bandwidth than the size the content. So it appears that many blu-ray players lack CD support themselves - only Blu-Ray and DVD support.
They split the royalties with Philips, so there may be a real cost to them for CD and Super CD. Plus the extra diode and complexity of the OPU.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Does it support USB flash drives? Yes? Then who cares?
yurinka
Member
Backwards Compatibility means to play in a console the games you had a previous one from the same manufacturer. So if the PS1, PS2, PS3 games I purchased or got with PS+ in PS3, PSP or PS Vita are available in PS4 this is BC.
But partial, because the discs wouldn't be supported.
That's their long term idea according to Perry. Yoshida said that they're also exploring emulation in PS4 (for PS1 and PS2 I understand). In this case it also may include the full BC.
Yep same here. But at least I'd like to play the ones I have in PSN, even if it's with lag and compression artifacts (something we have to see because if PS4 has dedicated hardware for streaming I assume that it's going to work well with decent connections).Yeah, but it's just...not the same.
I want to be able to use my discs, dammit!
Baconsammy
Banned
I love how if the PS doesnt have something, it's not important. Funny. As for still buying CDs, Amazon just ensured that I will continue buying them since they include an immediate MP3 download of the CD when I buy one.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
I believe so, but SACD support died with Fat PS3. People transitioned to micro-bits and 1MB songs, and audiophiles transitioned to blu-ray and FLAC being the medium of high-quality audio.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
basically even if they don't make their own version of microsoft live I expect ton's of features that force you to use their inhouse system apps
what the fuck? so it won't play ps1 disc games? i still regularly play tony hawk's pro skater 1&2 on my ps3 and those will NEVER be psone classics (if they continue to support those).
every single playstation system has played ps1 discs (psp and vita through remote play). this is bs.
every single playstation system has played ps1 discs (psp and vita through remote play). this is bs.
Ol No Bones
Banned
I wonder if they are ditching vinyl support as well. And where am I gonna play my tapes?
AranhaHunter
Banned
Can it not support CDs for music but read other CDs (i.e. Playstation games)? Or is that impossible?
Or a music store that sells mp3s. That's not it though, MS has XBox Music and the durango will most likely play CDs.
Or a music store that sells mp3s. That's not it though, MS has XBox Music and the durango will most likely play CDs.
Im guess Im old, I still use CD's all the time, my ps3 is hooked up to my stereo in my living room. So yeah this is disappointing, but as long as I can run my ipod though my ps4 (which Im assuming Ill be able to) then I'll be ok with this.
I have to say I dont really understand it though, I thought CD-ROM compatibility was pretty much a given if something plays DVD's and Blu-Rays...
I have to say I dont really understand it though, I thought CD-ROM compatibility was pretty much a given if something plays DVD's and Blu-Rays...
It gives me the idea that PS1 games on PSN will be supported,that's it since there is no CD support.
Killing_Joke
Member
Time to dust of those PSone's. Sony is going full Cloud/DD for BC. It's good to see Sony is cutting corners to have that low launch price at least.
Rip your CD to your computer ---> stream it to your PS4.
Would not be surprised to see PS4 also have many streaming options from tablets and smartphones.
Its called progress.
Will wait for the next 20 replies giving me some hyperbolic outrageous scenario about how this isn't feasible for you.
Would not be surprised to see PS4 also have many streaming options from tablets and smartphones.
Its called progress.
Will wait for the next 20 replies giving me some hyperbolic outrageous scenario about how this isn't feasible for you.
Why are people reading this to me no PSX support? Just because it doesn't support audio discs doesn't mean it can't physically read the CD medium. Have they actually said one way or another?
Well, if you want to do it right, you'd use hardware capable of outputting 240p and play it either on an interlaced CRT or use something like an XRGB.
I have ripped all of my CDs so it isn't a huge issue for me, but my wife however has many Christmas CDs she likes to play during the holidays and the PS3 is what she uses to do so. I could rip them for her, but that isn't how she likes to use them. It seems like such a trivial thing to remove for Sony.
bideogamer
Neo Member
All I can say is..... What?
Well it IS the only way to properly display those games.
Hypereides
Member
1. Music unlimited (well at least they are convinced its great)
2. They are probably trimming production costs on any way they can. To ensure a better pricetag overall.
You are talking about digital downloads, I'm talking about original physical media.
If I'm holding a PS1 disk in my hand, only devices that can play that disk are Backwards Compatible with PS1.
To me, once they have re-sold it as a digit download, that DOWNLOAD not a PS1 game, it's a PSN game. If the PS4 can play it, then you can say the PS4 is BC with PSN.
Punkster_NY
Member
So just rip it on your computer and transfer it over with a USB stick.
But my computer doesn't even have a disc drive!!!
Seriously just stream it from PC to PS4.
Revolutionary
Member
I can't remember the last time I popped a CD into my PS3, but that's still a weird ass omission. :/
Goldenroad
Member
I bet you you'll be able to subscribe to Music Unlimited though!
disappeared
Banned
As long as Sony still lets me dump music from a usb flash drive to the PS4's hard drive, that's fine. I tend to rip my albums to a computer first anyway.
Punkster_NY
Member
no disc drive? that's madness! :3 but you'll still need it for games like MG GZ that allows you to use your own in-game music.
iamvin22
Industry Verified
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
Will PS4 have betamax support? Sony better not fuck me over on this.
SuperSonic1305
Member
People play PS1 games on HDTV's? LOL
A 15 year old PC could run them. Such a non-factor.
A 15 year old PC could run them. Such a non-factor.