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PS4 firmware update 1.62 out now

I've never had that happen. If I buy something from the store using my phone or PC the PS4 downloads and installs the game and updates ready for when I get home. General game or system updates only start downloading when I boot from Standby (yes, I've checked the settings). With that, and the fact that share video function doesn't work properly I'd be hoping for a fix pretty soon before more features are added.

My PS4 has been on standby since launch, and has never once downloaded a firmware update by itself. Everything else (game patches and the like) work just fine, but system firmware only seems to download when the system is actually on. Not sure if that's just me or not though.

Huh, seems Sony has kinks to iron out on the auto updates. Everything downloads and installs for me, except system updates won't install until I turn it on.
 
I am getting more and more frustrated with Sony regarding firmware.

Fairplay to MS, their updates come monthly, they tell their customers in advance and even let them beta test them.

You want to beta test a stability patch?

Seriously Sony is constantly updating the firmware to fix bugs and improve performance how is this a bad thing?

If they waited until they had a huge patch and people had to deal with error codes and other bugs for weeks and weeks until they released a huge patch people would be bitching.

I appreciate Sony continually updating the firmware to fix minor problems in the interim between the bigger patches. Look at where they went with the PS3 eventually we got all the big updates (up to the capabilities of the system) eventually.

Have some patience people.
 
It isn't close to as good as DLNA.

What do you prefer DLNA for? Is it the lack of needing transcoding? Most of the anime I've ripped have soft subtitles so I have to transcode through DLNA anyway if I'm watching it, but that's just because I wanted the dub in case my wife preferred it. But I think Plex can do non-transcoded playback if the media has the right av codecs.

I will grant having PlayOn support through DLNA is pretty nice, though I like Plex's organization. Hmm, I guess the other thing is if you've got media that Plex can't scrape metadata for it would be pretty miserable to use.
 
What do you prefer DLNA for? Is it the lack of needing transcoding? Most of the anime I've ripped have soft subtitles so I have to transcode through DLNA anyway if I'm watching it, but that's just because I wanted the dub in case my wife preferred it. But I think Plex can do non-transcoded playback if the media has the right av codecs.

I will grant having PlayOn support through DLNA is pretty nice, though I like Plex's organization. Hmm, I guess the other thing is if you've got media that Plex can't scrape metadata for it would be pretty miserable to use.

We don't care about stolen anime we want to be able to stream our music libraries IN GAME.
 
We don't care about stolen anime we want to be able to stream our music libraries IN GAME.

I don't care about stolen anime either, and I spent way too much money collecting it to be randomly accused of stealing it. All you had to say was you wanted music rather than video support.
 
This. The 360 had it, ps3 had the capabilities... why the f not on ps4?

Music Unlimited works in the background on the PS4, that should tell you everything you need to know. The only question is how long did SCE promise exclusivity to the MU people.
 
I don't care about stolen anime either, and I spent way too much money collecting it to be randomly accused of stealing it. All you had to say was you wanted music rather than video support.

It was a joke. I also want music and video streaming outside of games but it needs to be native. If I have to navigate to a web interface, it's not going to work. I need to be able to plug a USB stick in the drive and play the podcast or whatever is on there and have the ability to control the volume in game. We could do this last gen at launch with 360 and still cannot do so with either machine. Pathetic.
 
Whatever you do, don't be critical of @yosp on twitter about PS4's lack of basic apps, mp3 /custom soundtrack support, lack of dlna/network shares, streaming etc unless you wanna get blocked.
 
As for media playback and DLNA, people were laughing at Microsoft for TV, TV, TV, Sports, TV, TV, Movies... and people wanted PS4 to be a GAMING MACHINE, that's what Sony gave you now people are whining because they can't play back media files?

Exactly. That's what most posters on here aren't getting.
 
Exactly. That's what most posters on here aren't getting.

Not trolling, but thats like if Sony released their flagship smart phone with little or no app support, or any of the same basic functions that other smart phones have, and tried to justify it by saying they just wanted their phone to be really good at phoning people.

I guess it's cool and all if it's really good at phoning people and people wanted nothing else from it. But people do want more from their PS4.
 
Exactly. That's what most posters on here aren't getting.

I've already mentioned it, but Sony didn't make a pure gaming machine. They gave the PS4 the ability to play mp3s in the background at launch, the problem is you have to subscribe to Sony's crappy MU service to do it.
 
I've already mentioned it, but Sony didn't make a pure gaming machine. They gave the PS4 the ability to play mp3s in the background at launch, the problem is you have to subscribe to Sony's crappy MU service to do it.

What TheLegendOfMart means is that the PS4 was better designed as a gaming machine first & foremost, just like systems like Original Xbox & Xbox 360 were, unlike Xbox One.
 
Entitlement: The Thread.

The system came out 5 months ago. Relax. This wouldn't have even been a talking point if they didn't release a patch today.
 
Exactly. That's what most posters on here aren't getting.


No, you should read this post:

Imo,

1) I think the apparent general disdain for Microsoft's "TV TV TV Sports...." was directed at their XBone reveal where they didn't show many games, not necessarily at the console as a whole.
2) Likewise, the fawning over PS4 wasnt because it wasnt going to have media functionality, it was because Sony focused on talking about the games during their reveal
3) It was not many people's expectation that basic functions from the ps3 (DLNA, media playback etc) would be absent from ps4 this far from launch, and with no news regarding when those features would appear.
4) Some people don't subscribe to any of the above views, some do; so it's counter productive to say things along the lines of "people wanted this, but now people want that - make up your mind people!" when 'people' is encompassing many different views and opinions.

Especially #3

Not to mention that it's not even true anyway because:

Sony didn't give us a pure GAMING MACHINE. That's not what the PS4 is at all. It'll play DVDs, Blu-rays, mp3, mp4, all sorts of media. What grinds a lot of people's gears is that Sony made sure it played subscription services only. Music Unlimited was ready at the PS4's launch, even though an mp3/CD player would've been a lot simpler to make. It's very, very clear what Sony's media priorities were, especially when the initial FAQ didn't even hint they were going to add mp3 support later.


You guys are all welcome to NOT wish for new features / features existing on competitive platforms / old features existing on Vita&PS3 and simply stuff that should have been there from the start, as fast as possible, but let the people "whine" so hopefully someone takes notice (well, at least for DLNA etc. they said they would check if it will come / will get higher priority etc.).
 
No, you should read this post:



Especially #3

Not to mention that it's not even true anyway because:




You guys are all welcome to NOT wish for new features / features existing on competitive platforms / old features existing on Vita&PS3 and simply stuff that should have been there from the start, as fast as possible, but let the people "whine" so hopefully someone takes notice (well, at least for DLNA etc. they said they would check if it will come / will get higher priority etc.).

And I just replied to what TheLegendOfMart meant not too long ago. It may have DVD, Blu-ray playback, etc., but Sony clearly designed the PS4 with gaming in mind. That's what the difference is.
 
Exactly. That's what most posters on here aren't getting.
People on both consoles expected at least the same functionality as last gen consoles as standard, with at least some marginal improvements due to next gen hardware.

Was that such a weird expectation?

It has nothing to do with TV/Sports/TV/Sports.

And people also expected (reasonably I think) to be able to replace their PS3 as media player with their new PS4.

As for what I personally want from Sony in terms of firmware - I'd like them to release the promised features like suspend/resume in the very near future, or else provide a basic roadmap of core updates to come. Some communication to set expectations is a good thing.
 
Am I oversimplifying these stability updates by thinking of them as something akin to Nvidia releasing driver updates when a big game drops? It's possible this is preparing PS4s for running MGS:GZ and Infamous: SS better.
 
Exactly. That's what most posters on here aren't getting.

No, I think we understand the situation quite well.

And I just replied to what TheLegendOfMart meant not too long ago. It may have DVD, Blu-ray playback, etc., but Sony clearly designed the PS4 with gaming in mind. That's what the difference is.

Yea, you agreed with him and he happens to be wrong. Not liking the focus on TV and media partnerships at MS' E3 is completely different than expecting a box to play a CD or an MP3, or wanting to know when a friend gets online, etc.
 
I really don't care about suspend resume or dlna or anything else right now except seeing when my friends log in and having the share button function as advertised! At least the first thing has to be the most basic functionality to patch in
 
I like sony's twitch setup better but part of that comes from me finding all the image things in twitch chat to be annoying and stupid. Also that is probably never going to change because sony's streaming is a system feature that has to support multiple services so it will always be more generic.

I don't like the emoticon crap either personally (we appear to be in the minority on that), I was more referring to how XBO Twitch displays like ten lines of chat while PS4 only shows two.

That's what I was thinking. People saying "way less to fix" seem to have little experience actually using both systems. The issue with both RIGHT NOW is the complete lack of MP3 or DLNA support for custom soundtracks. The suspend feature is nice on XBOX for the games with long start up loads or games with bad autosaves, but it's not nearly as important to me than being able to play songs off USB or network.

Yep, those claiming that Sony has less to fix and/or acting like the PS4 has a mature and feature rich OS are spouting utter nonsense.
 
And I just replied to what TheLegendOfMart meant not too long ago. It may have DVD, Blu-ray playback, etc., but Sony clearly designed the PS4 with gaming in mind. That's what the difference is.

That doesnt negate the fact it offers a sservie to playback music in the background. Except you have to pay for it.
 
Whatever you do, don't be critical of @yosp on twitter about PS4's lack of basic apps, mp3 /custom soundtrack support, lack of dlna/network shares, streaming etc unless you wanna get blocked.

I've asked him about stuff above and haven't been blocked. Just be nice about it. Of course he hasn't responded...but didn't expect him to. :P
 
Yea, you agreed with him and he happens to be wrong. Not liking the focus on TV and media partnerships at MS' E3 is completely different than expecting a box to play a CD or an MP3, or wanting to know when a friend gets online, etc.

That doesn't negate the fact it offers a service to playback music in the background. Except you have to pay for it.

Heh, you guys aren't getting it. It all comes down to the architectures, designs, etc. of the systems. Just because the PS4 has some media stuff, doesn't mean that the PS4 was designed as a media box in mind like Microsoft did with Xbox One.
 
I've heard that, but I haven't had any trouble with any of the discs I've tried. Maybe I've been lucky.
Bought PS4 at launch and have watched well over 50 blu-rays and have yet to run into any problems. I even tried the movies people were complaining about and mine worked fine.

I'm guessing faulty discs.
 
Heh, you guys aren't getting it. It all comes down to the architectures, designs, etc. of the systems. Just because the PS4 has some media stuff, doesn't mean that the PS4 was designed as a media box in mind like Microsoft did with Xbox One.

What in the hell. I'm not even talking about MS. We just want to be able to play our own music. We aren't crying, salty or creating a silly hashtag to bomb twitter. You take every comment and push it through your weird system war filter.
 
What in the hell. I'm not even talking about MS. We just want to be able to play our own music. We aren't crying, salty or creating a silly hashtag to bomb twitter. You take every comment and push it through your weird system war filter.

I'm just trying to make sense to all of you about it, nothing about a system war.

Also, Sony's a hardware company, not a software company like Microsoft is.
 
I don't like the emoticon crap either personally (we appear to be in the minority on that), I was more referring to how XBO Twitch displays like ten lines of chat while PS4 only shows two.



Yep, those claiming that Sony has less to fix and/or acting like the PS4 has a mature and feature rich OS are spouting utter nonsense.

No it isn't, the x1 OS was borderline broken at launch, party chat was broke, you could not even see how much storage you were using etc... The sp4 needs updates but they are more user friendly fixes not to really fix anything, everything worked and worked well mainly day 1. There were people who had to power down and up the x1 as ther OS would lag, seemed like a memory leak. Most of us moved to PS4 but 1 of our friends is hardcore xbox fan, he would by a bag of poop with Xbox on it over a ps4, I have used x1 and he has been telling me how it was at launch, it had way more issues then ps4.
 
Starting to get the feeling that Sony is either

A. Thinking it has such a great lead they can take their foot off the gas

OR

B. Holding back as much as possible till E3 to try to make a giant leap again

Either way I think they are leaving the door open for MS and squandering the lead.

Sure they can only sell out all the systems at the same rate as now, but they can also underwhelm enough to convince those who are waiting to instead chose option X vs waiting for option P.
 
Starting to get the feeling that Sony is either

A. Thinking it has such a great lead they can take their foot off the gas

OR

B. Holding back as much as possible till E3 to try to make a giant leap again

Either way I think they are leaving the door open for MS and squandering the lead.

Sure they can only sell out all the systems at the same rate as now, but they can also underwhelm enough to convince those who are waiting to instead chose option X vs waiting for option P.

If it's even one of those, I'd say its B. They know not to take their foot of the gas as they learned with the launch of the PS3. They are slow with updates but communication with the fan-base would go a long way.
 
B. Holding back as much as possible till E3 to try to make a giant leap again
I hope that's not the plan - as a strategy for updates, quick iteration has the benefit of being modular (small changes in isolation mean less that can go wrong all at once) and more responsive (since each update can lead to additional feedback) which can then inform the next round of updates (or the one afterwards).
 
I hope that's not the plan - as a strategy for updates, quick iteration has the benefit of being modular (small changes in isolation mean less that can go wrong all at once) and more responsive (since each update can lead to additional feedback) which can then inform the next round of updates (or the one afterwards).

Agreed lets hope that's not the case.
 
they're still selling every single PS4 they can make. no reason to risk shipping out buggy software. I'd rather they take their time
 
Well, just tested it and the mighty stability update still didn't fix that you can't look at 5 or so of your screenshots in a row (but least since the last update it doesn't crash the OS anymore).

Maybe the update switched on AF? ;)
 
Huh, seems Sony has kinks to iron out on the auto updates. Everything downloads and installs for me, except system updates won't install until I turn it on.

system updates shouldn't install while your away from the console. It's the same reason BIOS updates for your motherboard aren't automatic either. it's a process that could potentially brick hardware, best you sit there and to it manually.
 
I don't really have a problem with frequent minor updates for my PS4 just as I don't have any issues with my apps updating frequently on my phone regardless of what it does or doesn't add.
 
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