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Is it possible to find out more about GDDR5 price? Is there any valid estimate (even from tech people)?
We got the figure from a memory manufacturer based on 4Gb chips that they have in going into production.
Is it possible to find out more about GDDR5 price? Is there any valid estimate (even from tech people)?
The £300 rumoured in The Times the other day certainly looks a lot less likely after last night.
Why do you think that? Sony actually went for that exact strategy this gen.
The big cost is not the parts but R&D.
I'm expecting $499.
With Sony selling PS Vita at a loss for 2-3 years, it would come as no surprise to see them do it with PS4.
Also, 499 now is the equivalent of selling it at 438 in 2006 dollars...
Um where are you seeing this from? Link? I don't remember anyone ever saying they were taking a loss on Vita also the vita has only been out a YEAR.... What kind of made up BS.. Ch..
$499 = 3202 Kr
499 = 4222 Kr
So Im guessing the swedish price to be around 5000-5500? Seems about right.
With Sony selling PS Vita at a loss for 2-3 years, it would come as no surprise to see them do it with PS4.
For comparison, according to Merrill Lynch for PS3 ($900!!) - the costs for the cell and blu ray are crazy, my guess is those costs were very high compared to actual
iSuppli broke it down for the 360 at $525
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20051123214405.html
So a couple of us at the bank have done a costing analysis this morning. I won't be able to give exact figures, as if we ever decide to release them publicly it will definitely blow my cover.
All figures in USD.
APU (CPU/GPU) - 85-90
8GB GDDR5 - 110-140
OS Chip (supposedly ARM based) - 12-18
Video encode/decode chip - 8-12
Blu-ray drive - 18-25
Hard drive - 38-50
I/O - 9-12
Wireless chip + antenna - 4
HDMI+HDCP - 11-15
Other - 25-35
Total - 320-401
These figures are preliminary, and do not include assembly costs, power costs, cooling or shipping as the final design has not been shown and can't be estimated at this time.
Please, please, please remember that this is based on the specification only and cost prices that we know, without a PS4 in the hand there will be mistakes.
R&D + shipment + marketing.
Yeah I can see $399 if Sony is willing to sell this at a loss for some time.
Otherwise $449 is still fine if the games are worth it.
Shave some off the GDDR5 figure into the APU and it's more reasonable. You also forgot to include the cost of the controller plus pseye. I think $400-449 is the minimum we can expect.So a couple of us at the bank have done a costing analysis this morning. I won't be able to give exact figures, as if we ever decide to release them publicly it will definitely blow my cover.
All figures in USD.
APU (CPU/GPU) - 85-90
8GB GDDR5 - 110-140
OS Chip (supposedly ARM based) - 12-18
Video encode/decode chip - 8-12
Blu-ray drive - 18-25
Hard drive - 38-50
I/O - 9-12
Wireless chip + antenna - 4
HDMI+HDCP - 11-15
Other - 25-35
Total - 320-401
These figures are preliminary, and do not include assembly costs, power costs, cooling or shipping as the final design has not been shown and can't be estimated at this time.
Please, please, please remember that this is based on the specification only and cost prices that we know, without a PS4 in the hand there will be mistakes.
Wow, a lot of the costs of those components seem excessive, particularly the little things. The price of the HD in particular seems extremely high to me but I am not an expert on the price that manufacturers pay for these things (but I did buy a 320GB HD for my PS3 on Black Friday for $30 shipped).
PS4 would have a PS Eye included which turned out to be true.
Shave some off the GDDR5 figure into the APU and it's more reasonable. You also forgot to include the cost of the controller plus pseye. I think $400-449 is the minimum we can expect.
For what quantities?The GDDR5 figure comes direct from a memory manufacturer.
For what quantities?
Not a bad assessment. Manufacturing cost is probably a little above $500 right now and will probably be around 450 when they start shipping and once they get mass production going.
The retail price will need to be $499 to cover the shipping/packaging/marketing and storage cost. They will lose on every machine, they even have to give the retailers their cut.
I say they do an Online services (includes free games, backwards compatibility, streaming gameplay, insta-demo on all new titles etc... etc... ) contract for 1 year at $19.99 - $29.99 and selling it at $399.
No way, man. The new service will be at least $60, unless its tiered.
And that doesn't include a controller, which doesn't look cheap to me.
Oh, so a subsidy. Yeah I guess I can see that. Honestly wouldn't be surprised to see both systems go with that model.He means $20-30 per month I think.
Doesn't include the controller, the double eye camera, the cabling (power and AV), or the headset. They're either going to lose a shitload on each console, or it's going to be upwards of 500 dollars at launch. Even at 500 they're going to lose a lot of money. They'll be making up for this somewhere else. As others suggested, it's going to be from services.