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[jakinov]

Nobody is going to care if a game theoretically loads in 1 second instead of 2 seconds. Well, not many anyway.

Makes things easier for the developers, and if could be higher than a one second difference. It's not just loading screens , it's the developers ability to dynamically change more and show more very fast. I would argue that would ultimately result in a better than a better user experience for MOST gamers than to have extra frames, and slighlty less blurry edges/textures you get from having more performance.

 

[Kagey K]

Now let’s see if MS matches them on price. Good times ahead.

 

[dolabla]

Sony will always have the exclusive games which is the most important aspect, but damn if they didn't screw this thing up. Maybe they have something else in in the wings? Remember there was a rumor of launching 2 different models.

 

[Aggelos]

 

[The Alien]

I'm confused. Isn't that a lot?

Yes. Its is quite a capable bit o' kit.
XBox Series X is a 12.1tf beast.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

Amazing console, now it is about the price. Let's be honest, with the current world situation, 100 dollars difference will make a lot of people go with the cheaper one.

 

[Stiflers Mom]

Sorry guys, I am literally in tears here.. haha..
The whole build up to this presentation, and Cerny talks about SSDs.

He was definityle the right guy for presenting the PS4, but he is definitely the wrong person to present the PS5, it seems..

What a train wreck...
LOL.

Bu bu but GDC isn't about excitement or games or stuff

Sony brought a little pocket knife to a chainsaw fight...

 

[LostDonkey]

Avoid TF count and CU count


AHAHAHAHAH

 

[PuppetMaster]

That SSD speed though! Mind blowing!

 

[VAL0R]

I can think of at least 10.2 reasons to buy an XSX instead of a PS5.

 

[darkinstinct]

Github leak is 100% on point again to the surprise of no sane person.

I think this is going to be a very loud system or the GPU clocks will only be for short bursts. These clocks are around 200-300 MHz higher than any other GPU AMD ships out of the box.

GAF member DemonCleaner did a great frequency/voltage power scaling for Navi 10 (and thus TSMC 7nm node) back a year ago.

Around 2x GPU power for those 400 MHz for like 10% performance is not a great trade-off for a console box IMO.

Yeah, taking speeds that high means Sony is in desperate mode to make the gap as small as possible. It's not something you design for. This console will be hotter, less powerful and consume more energy than XSX.

 

[CyberPanda]

 

[Geki-D]

So PS5 will have no loading, unlike the SeX. But I guess no more loading in games suddenly doesn't matter, not like people have been complaining about loading for years or anything...

 

[darkinstinct]

Wow, now confirmation of the gen0 to 2 modes from Github.

 

[leo-j]

Most of the top 100 ps4 games will work on ps5 at launch. It’s not even fully BC w ps4 games. And will not play anything older than ps4.

I’m sorry this is an absolute disaster for Sony.

 

[CyberPanda]

SSD tech they implemented is impressive.

 

[SuperLupeRap]

So PS5 will have no loading, unlike the SeX. But I guess no more loading in games suddenly doesn't matter, not like people have been complaining about loading for years or anything...

Come on man, nobody cares whether a game loads in 1 second rather than 3 seconds. Very lame from Sony. No idea what their engineering team has been up to these last years.

 

[Smaller than Atom]

Buy tomorrow tflops wont matter. Callin it now.

 

[Old Empire.]

Most of the top 100 ps4 games will work on ps5 at launch. It’s not even fully BC w ps4 games. And will not play anything older than ps4.

I’m sorry this is an absolute disaster for Sony.

Correct, they starting least two to three years behind Microsoft.

 

[JORMBO]

Most of the top 100 ps4 games will work on ps5 at launch. It’s not even fully BC w ps4 games. And will not play anything older than ps4.

I’m sorry this is an absolute disaster for Sony.

That's terrible. A lot of the games I have probably don't even fall into the top 100.

 

[sdrawkcab]

So the rumors were 9.2, 13.1 and some people bet on 11.2.

WE WERE ALL WRONG!

Microsoft was trolling us all along.

 

[Kagey K]

Most of the top 100 ps4 games will work on ps5 at launch. It’s not even fully BC w ps4 games. And will not play anything older than ps4.

I’m sorry this is an absolute disaster for Sony.

Most of them will work on the series X too. Just saying,

 

[Stiflers Mom]

BUT IT'S THE MOST EXCITING TECH SINCE 20 YEARS, GUYS..

lol...

Sorry, but it's just so funny...

 

[johntown]

 

[Self High Five]

So Tommy Fisher can go back to being banned now?

 

[mrBarrelNut]

LOL. Boost clocks (both CPU & GPU) on a console. Lame. In real life this is a 9 TF console.

 

[CAB_Life]

So PS5 will have no loading, unlike the SeX. But I guess no more loading in games suddenly doesn't matter, not like people have been complaining about loading for years or anything...

I think it’s quantitive though, like if the XSX has 2s loading time (as it still uses a decent SSD) and the PS5 has 1s or negligible, will anyone really notice or care other than Digital Foundry?

 

[Bladed Thesis]

Disappointing but if Sony has the exclusives then they're still winning? I mean a PC can basically do an Xbox's job these days right?

 

[sdrawkcab]

I heard the PS5 had 20 Gbs of RAM! I also heard they had 24 GBs of RAM!

I can't stop laughing. Sony guys are real salty right now. Imagine, you're a Sony fanboy, at home recovering from the coronavirus, and you see this...

I'd feel even worse!

 

[Old Empire.]

Xbox has the better specs, but likely cost more thats the difference. Microsoft went to 450 they would sell their console no problem in huge numbers.

 

[RobRSG]

Crappy hardware confirmed.

 

[octiny]

Most of the top 100 ps4 games will work on ps5 at launch. It’s not even fully BC w ps4 games. And will not play anything older than ps4.

I’m sorry this is an absolute disaster for Sony.

Arrogant Sony got caught with their pants down. Simple as that.

I feel for the Sony bois, but damn. This is just too funny after all the hype, predictions etc.

 

[ScarletSpider]

Now let’s see if MS matches them on price. Good times ahead.

MS will meet or beat PS5 price.

Permaban me if wrong.

 

[GymWolf]

can someone tells cerny that nobody gives a fuck about slightly better loading times?

 

[MilkyJoe]

Kaboom

 

[Digity]

If I wouldn't be mainly on PC and was pressed to choose from the two after what we know so far, I would go with the X for sure.
But as PC is my primary platform I'll get the PS5 for the exclusives.

Same here pretty much, although if I wasn’t primarily a PC guy I’d still go with ps5 simply because of the games but since PC is my main jam I’ll be getting the ps5 for the exclusive line up.

 

[Armorian]

slower ram than XSX (at least 10GB of it)
- XSX with ~20% more powerful GPU, not that bad BUT*
- slower CPU than XSX *
- twice as fast SSD with ability to use pc drives, not bad but will it make any difference?

* - FUCKING POWER SAVER feature dropping (high as fuck) GPU clocks, loooool

 

[dolabla]

Most of the top 100 ps4 games will work on ps5 at launch. It’s not even fully BC w ps4 games. And will not play anything older than ps4.

I’m sorry this is an absolute disaster for Sony.

If true, that's absolutely embarrassing

 

[darkinstinct]

Most of the top 100 ps4 games will work on ps5 at launch. It’s not even fully BC w ps4 games. And will not play anything older than ps4.

I’m sorry this is an absolute disaster for Sony.

Seriously? From "all PS gens" to "hundreds of PS4 games out of thousands" in half a day. Guess BC is not that simple even with hardware support, eh Sony? MS efforts paying off next gen. Not even boost mode and enhancements to BC games on PS5?

 

[oldergamer]

The SSD in PS5 will be more expensive then the SSD in the new xbox. NVME the speed scales up with the price.

 

[Kagey K]

can someone tells cerny that nobody gives a fuck bout slightly better loading times?

Well 1 person does, they started a thread about it yesterday.

 

[M1chl]

2.23Ghz for GPU?? Are they retarded?

 

[scydrex]

I hope this is $400-450 with those specs...only 10.2TF? Not a 1TB SSD? Damn...

 

[Voost Kain]

Stadia and Sony both disappointing. I guess there's still PC and Xbox.

 

[DragoonKain]

“Almost all” top 100 PS4 games will be playable on PS5?

Does that mean not true backwards compatibility?

 

[Geki-D]

Come on man, nobody cares whether a game loads in 1 second rather than 3 seconds. Very lame from Sony. No idea what their engineering team has been up to these last years.

Are we pretending games only take 3 secs to load?
You might want to get your stop watch out:


This current gen game on SeX still takes about 10 secs to load.

 

[GymWolf]

Well 1 person does, they started a thread about it yesterday.

he can fuck off with cerny too

 

[Michele]

I hope this is $400-450 with those specs...only 10.2TF? Not a 1TB SSD? Damn...

It's looking to cost around 399 if it's not wrong..

 

[Aggelos]

"Both the CPU and GPU are monitored by a special boost system that adjusts the frequency of these systems based on the current activities of both chips, a target ideal constant power drawn and a model SOC performance. For example, if the CPU is running at lower activity, the boost system may reduce its frequency and increase the frequency to the GPU to allow that GPU to run at higher performance without otherwise affecting power use or cooling. Because of this, Cerny said that direct comparison based on compute units or FLOPS to other hardware systems may not be accurate comparisons"

PlayStation 5 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[darkinstinct]

MS will meet or beat PS5 price.

Permaban me if wrong.

Spencer said "we will not be out of position regarding price or performance" . He absolutely targets the same price point as PS5.