cryogenic7
Member
Just because you have a poorly maintained PC does not mean that is the experience for most using them. I have had more problems with my PS4 pro than my pc during their lifetimes.
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Reliability; Why PCs aren’t So Amazing
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MeatSafeMurderer
Member
Never have these kinds of issues. Sounds like a you problem.
CitizenX3639
Banned
The only time i have an issue with my PC is when that trash MS forces an update.
kiphalfton
Member
[Insert personal anecdote about issue with PC that occured once (likely due to own incompetence)]
Then exclaim "And this is why console are better".
Then exclaim "And this is why console are better".
Bonfires Down
Member
Half the posters blaming op and the rest blaming AMD. What a surprise...
It's definitely possible that this is because of AMD drivers, but if you don't see why PC gaming is problematic if choosing the wrong GPU can fuck up your shit then I don't know what to tell you. And I play almost exclusively on PC.
It's definitely possible that this is because of AMD drivers, but if you don't see why PC gaming is problematic if choosing the wrong GPU can fuck up your shit then I don't know what to tell you. And I play almost exclusively on PC.
ViolentP
Member
Consoles are for people who prefer not to deal with variation even at the cost of performance.
PC’s are for people who put performance first and are willing to work to obtain the most of it.
It’s a simple question of what you prefer, not what is superior. OP is a textbook case of a person that is probably better suited for the opposite toolset.
PC’s are for people who put performance first and are willing to work to obtain the most of it.
It’s a simple question of what you prefer, not what is superior. OP is a textbook case of a person that is probably better suited for the opposite toolset.
nani17
are in a big trouble
You know what he's right I've never had an issue with consoles ever well besides
RROD
YLOD
N64 carts losing saves (No patches back then)
PS3 and PS4 jet engine noise
PS2 laser issues with the blue discs remember them
random memory card failure.
Oh 20min updates 22 patches day one system update aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
well, that's just some issues I've had. It's best I blame all consoles for that and say this is why I hate console gaming
RROD
YLOD
N64 carts losing saves (No patches back then)
PS3 and PS4 jet engine noise
PS2 laser issues with the blue discs remember them
random memory card failure.
Oh 20min updates 22 patches day one system update aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
well, that's just some issues I've had. It's best I blame all consoles for that and say this is why I hate console gaming
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belteshazzar
Member
Being an owner of both platforms I can say console gaming has definitely historically been more stable for me. I've only had problems with my ps4, which I had to send back several times. However, I've had more issues with bsod's and the like in windows, and only once did the Nvidia drivers were bad when I was playing the division and I had to rollback. There are a lot of things you can do to ensure you don't have these kind of problems. For instance, I never update my Nvidia drivers the second they are made available, I wait about two weeks or so, and if there are any problems they should be ironed out by then. I've also had the occasional game that always crashes and I could never figure out how to fix it. However, most of the time I've been able to recover and learn something new along the way that allows me to troubleshoot and fix problems in the future.
V4skunk
Banned
Pc gaming is easier than ever.
Just today I got a 2080ti upgraded from an rx580.
It literally took me less than 5 minutes to take the 580 out and swap it with my new card. Less than 10 minutes later I had downloaded and updated the nvidia driver and was testing out Warhammer Total war 2.
Just today I got a 2080ti upgraded from an rx580.
It literally took me less than 5 minutes to take the 580 out and swap it with my new card. Less than 10 minutes later I had downloaded and updated the nvidia driver and was testing out Warhammer Total war 2.
demigod
Member
I’m gonna go with faulty ram. I had something like this shit happen to me.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
This is beyond true.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
All electronics are subject to some level of failure rate. A nice thing about PC is the modularity, so even if you have a problem, you can replace the part, or use a backup part until you get your RMA and replacement/refund. On console you send in the whole unit, if you're lucky.
Some people enjoy the granular control of PC. The work and knowledge base you build is like being a bladesmith and making your own weapon. You know exactly what you're putting together. Consoles are simple to use, with minimal research and effort. Some people like that approach, it's kind of like a smartphone. Even a child can use it.
Simplicity vs deep customization. Pick what suits you best. Failures are the norm on both sides. Choose the approach you're most comfortable with.
Some people enjoy the granular control of PC. The work and knowledge base you build is like being a bladesmith and making your own weapon. You know exactly what you're putting together. Consoles are simple to use, with minimal research and effort. Some people like that approach, it's kind of like a smartphone. Even a child can use it.
Simplicity vs deep customization. Pick what suits you best. Failures are the norm on both sides. Choose the approach you're most comfortable with.
LemmingWithaParachute
Banned
Of course this type of thing never happens at all on consoles:
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Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
That's crazy talk, PC gaming folks are the most helpful ever, from playing games where ancient online titles are often playable with tight player bases that may have even taken over/emulated/worked around some defunct official service to troubleshooting hardware/software/OS and all that. Gog Steam and other forums and websites are full of pages with people showing how to run a game from before you were born on a modern unsupported system in top form or enhance/mod it or whatever. Granted starting a thread with how "PC gaming sucks because my PC is broken" isn't likely to get a very good response, but this guy can still make a decent thread asking for actual help about his actual problems in OT if he wants to bother or just hand it to some experts and get it over with if he doesn't. It's not like you can fix your console when anything breaks as parts aren't in stores.
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Iorv3th
Member
You can't play the game because your hardware shit out on you. It's the same as being pissed off that you couldn't play a console game because you had a hardware defect.
All of your problems there seem like something specific to your setup and with PC gaming there is such a wide variety of setups and user configurations that the problem may well just be your machine or something you did to it.
Futaleufu
Member
I'm 100% sure my Ryzen 2600 is faster than next gen consoles. A custom APU with thermal throttling won't be faster that a socketed CPU with turbo mode and proper cooling.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Congrats, you completely missed the point of the OP. He obviously was able to troubleshoot.
Lanrutcon
Member
Congrats, you complete missed the point of my post. The OP knows what MSCONFIG is, so I obviously wasn't talking about him.
nkarafo
Member
Speaking of reliability, there's also hardware reliability. I don't trust consoles anymore after the XBOX 360 fiasco. Plus, even if the build quality of the components is good, you never know how well the system is put together. What kind of thermal paste they use? How good is the cooling? What about the quality of the fans? What about the noise? Did the Chinese person who handled my console was in a good mood that day?
I build my PCs myself and it's always a cool, silent box. I never had any hardware failing on me apart from a couple of Geforce 8800 cards (well after their service ended) but those are known to die after a few years. But still, even if an out of warranty part dies you can easily replace it and the whole system will be good again. If a part in a console dies, it pretty much takes all other components with it in the recycle bin. You can't even replace the DVD/blu-Ray drive because each one has a unique code that hardware locks it on the specific motherboard it's on. And lets not speak about the noise... Being a PC gamer the last 10 years, it's always funny to me how loud consoles have become compared to a well build PC.
I build my PCs myself and it's always a cool, silent box. I never had any hardware failing on me apart from a couple of Geforce 8800 cards (well after their service ended) but those are known to die after a few years. But still, even if an out of warranty part dies you can easily replace it and the whole system will be good again. If a part in a console dies, it pretty much takes all other components with it in the recycle bin. You can't even replace the DVD/blu-Ray drive because each one has a unique code that hardware locks it on the specific motherboard it's on. And lets not speak about the noise... Being a PC gamer the last 10 years, it's always funny to me how loud consoles have become compared to a well build PC.
BadBurger
Is 'That Pure Potato'
Yea, PC's have unique problems. I love PC but these days I'd rather just fire up my Xbox or whatever and be done with it. Chances are whatever I'm trying to play will just work, and if the console dies I just replace it rather than troubleshooting individual components. I'll try to do a reset or reinstall firmware, replace the hard drive if it's clear that failed, but beyond that I just can't be bothered.
anthraticus
Banned
It's always all about the games. If you're good only playing the shit that comes to consoles (which I'm certainly not) then stick with that only.
Common thing in PC gaming? Not really. I've never had anything like that and I've been playing excessively over the last 15+ years.
Doesn't seem that way at least. For some funny reason, it's always the clueless who have issues with their PCs.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I've been pc gamer all my life. I am 31yo and been a pc gamer since 1997. I always built my own computers and did everything myself.
Last year I've built yet another 2k usd pc and I am coming to conclusion that I hate pc gaming.... Sure, I play at 4k, freesync, locked 58fps, max graphics etc. but there are always issues, always problems. Something always needs tweaking. Especially with Ryzen crap and x570... I kinda regret getting 3700x/x570 day one. not only it was expensive, it barely worked and pc still boots longer than my old 2500k did.
The years I had 360 and ps4, I just played games. The years I focus on pc, I tweak around.
I will continue to game and use PC as my main platform. I just cannot stop with 500 steam games in library and new half-life coming out....
I also did not had any issues with Doot eternal. It just worked 4k 58fps, razer viper ultimate mouse... sometimes pc gaming is sweet
But as I am used to saying "COMPUTER IS THE ONLY THING I KNOW AND I HATE IT"
Last year I've built yet another 2k usd pc and I am coming to conclusion that I hate pc gaming.... Sure, I play at 4k, freesync, locked 58fps, max graphics etc. but there are always issues, always problems. Something always needs tweaking. Especially with Ryzen crap and x570... I kinda regret getting 3700x/x570 day one. not only it was expensive, it barely worked and pc still boots longer than my old 2500k did.
The years I had 360 and ps4, I just played games. The years I focus on pc, I tweak around.
I will continue to game and use PC as my main platform. I just cannot stop with 500 steam games in library and new half-life coming out....
I also did not had any issues with Doot eternal. It just worked 4k 58fps, razer viper ultimate mouse... sometimes pc gaming is sweet
But as I am used to saying "COMPUTER IS THE ONLY THING I KNOW AND I HATE IT"
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Kittehkraken
Member
nkarafo
Member
The only thing you need to update is your security applications and graphics card drivers. And the later is only really needed when you have certain issues, you don't have to do it every time a new driver comes out. Personally, i only do it when a new Game Ready driver comes out for a game i care about, because of the promise of being optimized for it. Otherwise i can keep the same driver for a full year with no issues.
You also get the STEAM and individual game updates and such, sure, but these ones are really fast and automatic.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
also windows updates and direct x update within windows but that's automatic. it really isn't much harder than having a console is it?
nkarafo
Member
You don't really need to update Windows, it's just that Microsoft forces you to do so. My previous WinXP and Win7 builds never had a single automatic Windows update (i had them disabled) other than manual security updates for more than 7 years each and they both run fine without a single re-format. It helps if you are the kind of user who knows what he is doing. Though, i guess the service packs were needed at some point.
Also i don't get the direct X update either. Last update was what, June 2010? All these DX updates prompts i get i simply cancel them because they either overwrite my previous one with the same files or they just automatically detect that i don't need it. I assume some installers force it in order to ensure you have it.
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nemiroff
Gold Member
I don't know what kind of computer the op has, but for me, building PCs with quality components I have had no issues like the op is describing pretty much since Windows 7 came out. My Windows 10 PC is running 24/7 and I have never had an issue that has stopped me from playing games. Been a PC gamer for many decades btw, and it used to be a hassle for a long time, and in the beginning I had to edit my own config files in DOS to get games running at all.. Anyway, funnily enough, I've had a lot more issues and crashes, many leading to reboots, on my "modern consoles" than my PC.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
That is a specific case which lasted until 2007. In 2008 I've got a 360 with jasper motherboard and it's still going. People say that falcon(2007) also got rid of this issue
nkarafo
Member
My falcon died from this. And i took every possible measure to avoid it (had this console on an open, cool space, installed games on HDD so the DVD drive doesn't add heat, etc).
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
shame. So it's a myth. jaspers and forward are fixed
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Do you know who makes some reliable shit? Nintendo. I've never had a problem with a Nintendo console.
The Bloody-Nine
Member
Joy con drift seems like a pretty big issue with the Switch.
JimboJones
Member
There Wii disk drives had a pretty high failure rate, most of them had issues reading duel layer DVDs.
Luckily they where easy enough to replace and then homebrew made it easy to just store stuff on HDDs to avoid further wear and tear.
Both my 360s had issues with the disk drive mechanism locking up, had to open that up too replace a little rubber band.
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chitzy
Banned
This has nothing to do with PCs being unreliable and everything to do with AMD drivers being shit. I've had a PC powered by Nvidia since 2012 and never once had a single issue with drivers.