cryogenic7
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Just because you have a poorly maintained PC does not mean that is the experience for most using them. I have had more problems with my PS4 pro than my pc during their lifetimes.
Well here is an update for you my pc is still shutting down. No Doom Eternal for me. Turns out rolling back drivers didn’t fix it. So now I don’t know if it’s a PSU problem or a CPU problem or what. It’s going to be a massive effort to find out. My computer is momentarily fucked and I can’t play my new game. I haven’t installed any new hardware. What the fuck???
The real worst part of PC gaming is the community.
They can't even handle having it pointed out that sometimes, through no fault of the user, PCs just start acting up.
That's crazy talk, PC gaming folks are the most helpful ever, from playing games where ancient online titles are often playable with tight player bases that may have even taken over/emulated/worked around some defunct official service to troubleshooting hardware/software/OS and all that. Gog Steam and other forums and websites are full of pages with people showing how to run a game from before you were born on a modern unsupported system in top form or enhance/mod it or whatever. Granted starting a thread with how "PC gaming sucks because my PC is broken" isn't likely to get a very good response, but this guy can still make a decent thread asking for actual help about his actual problems in OT if he wants to bother or just hand it to some experts and get it over with if he doesn't. It's not like you can fix your console when anything breaks as parts aren't in stores.This is beyond true.
Lol how is this “objectively the best way to play” when I cannot play the game one day after purchase?
Th is has happened with many games for me. Dark Souls once got a Steam update the completely broke x360ce making it impossible to control. Dark Souls II I was suddenly unable to launch one day, I was not able to play until half a year later.
Can you imagine if a console just stopped playing a game entirely for months? Lol “objectively the best way to play” that is objectively false. Wow dudes.
People calling me a kid or entry level or something, y’all need to tone down the Steam forum style aggression.I’ve been PC gaming since the 80s scrubs
How the heck is your PC more powerful? I bought a 3950x, specifically hoping it could keep up with next gen consoles but im not even sure.
I sometimes forget not everyone can troubleshoot a PC, but it's a fact: us IT people take it for granted. To your common variety gamer it's probably black magic.
Also, some people are dumb and lazy.
Congrats, you completely missed the point of the OP. He obviously was able to troubleshoot.
Common thing in PC gaming? Not really. I've never had anything like that and I've been playing excessively over the last 15+ years.So today I boot up and start playing. My screen and all audio shuts off after a minute or so of play. It sucks but this is a common thing in PC gaming. Many many times I have updated graphics cards and this begins happening.
Luckily I am an old school PC tinkerer and know a few things about Windows.
The only thing you need to update is your security applications and graphics card drivers. And the later is only really needed when you have certain issues, you don't have to do it every time a new driver comes out. Personally, i only do it when a new Game Ready driver comes out for a game i care about, because of the promise of being optimized for it. Otherwise i can keep the same driver for a full year with no issues.pc's get updates like consoles get updates, just with pc's there are many things to update separately
also windows updates and direct x update within windows but that's automatic. it really isn't much harder than having a console is it?The only thing you need to update is your security applications and graphics card drivers. And the later is only really needed when you have certain issues, you don't have to do it every time a new driver comes out. Personally, i only do it when a new Game Ready driver comes out for a game i care about, because of the promise of being optimized for it. Otherwise i can keep the same driver for a full year with no issues.
You also get the STEAM and individual game updates and such, sure, but these ones are really fast and automatic.
You don't really need to update Windows, it's just that Microsoft forces you to do so. My previous WinXP and Win7 builds never had a single automatic Windows update (i had them disabled) other than manual security updates for more than 7 years each and they both run fine without a single re-format. It helps if you are the kind of user who knows what he is doing. Though, i guess the service packs were needed at some point.also windows updates and direct x update within windows but that's automatic. it really isn't much harder than having a console is it?
That is a specific case which lasted until 2007. In 2008 I've got a 360 with jasper motherboard and it's still going. People say that falcon(2007) also got rid of this issue
My falcon died from this. And i took every possible measure to avoid it (had this console on an open, cool space, installed games on HDD so the DVD drive doesn't add heat, etc).That is a specific case which lasted until 2007. In 2008 I've got a 360 with jasper motherboard and it's still going. People say that falcon(2007) also got rid of this issue
shame. So it's a myth. jaspers and forward are fixedMy falcon died from this. And i took every possible measure to avoid it (had this console on an open, cool space, installed games on HDD so the DVD drive doesn't add heat, etc).
Joy con drift seems like a pretty big issue with the Switch.Do you know who makes some reliable shit? Nintendo. I've never had a problem with a Nintendo console.
There Wii disk drives had a pretty high failure rate, most of them had issues reading duel layer DVDs.Do you know who makes some reliable shit? Nintendo. I've never had a problem with a Nintendo console.
This has nothing to do with PCs being unreliable and everything to do with AMD drivers being shit. I've had a PC powered by Nvidia since 2012 and never once had a single issue with drivers.So I bought Doom Eternal Friday on Steam and had a blast playing it. The next day when starting I see a message saying to update my AMD drivers. It was a dialog coming from the Doom game itself. So I do that.
So today I boot up and start playing. My screen and all audio shuts off after a minute or so of play. It sucks but this is a common thing in PC gaming. Many many times I have updated graphics cards and this begins happening.
It sucks because not only does it mean I can’t play my game, I can’t use my computer at all. Just starting my computer now means a guaranteed shut down within a minute or so. This isn’t a full shut down, I still see the hd light, but the monitor is off and I can’t wake it up without a hard reboot.
Luckily I am an old school PC tinkerer and know a few things about Windows. “I’ll just roll back the driver!” So I boot up and by the time AMD has loaded the whole thing shuts down again.
So I try rebooting in safe mode, holding shift at boot up, and for some reason this is not working. It used to be you could just hold shift and it would go into safe mode. Not any more I guess. So I have to boot up, run msconfig from the command line, and set the Boot mode to Safe Mode, all before it shuts down again. I do this. I get to safe mode. My monitor isn’t shutting down anymore so I can uninstall the AMD software.
I reboot. It goes into Safe Mode again lol. I have to run msconfig and fix the boot again. Missing that hotkey a lot right about now.
So now I’m back in real Win 10 and I’ve reinstalled my driver back to the previous version. ThIngs are great, games are playing, nothing is shutting down.
But at what cost? It took me a solid hour of working on this to get it to work. And I sort of know what I’m doing! This was a standard video driver update. Not anything crazy. So yeah I can see how this would break someone who wasn’t as PC savvy. Off it goes to the Nerd Bar or whatever.
When I think about gaming and the PC vs Console question, these problems are always at the forefront in my mind. Consoles just always work. The convenience factor is overwhelming.