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[boredofcanada]

Ghosts is solely to blame. A lot of people preordered it and it was total garbage. Everyone is pulling a wait and see (rightfully so, but I think AW is gone be good).

 

[Dysun]

Ghosts was so bad it damaged the brand.

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

Perhaps all that futuristic jumping and CrysisFall gameplay is scaring people?

 

[Acquiescence]

This is a downward trajectory I can get behind. It'll be nice to eventually live in a world again where annual CoD entries don't exist.

 

[Duxxy3]

It's one of a few things, or a combination of them.

Ghosts has soured people. The series is in decline. It's too futuristic for some people.

 

[Raziel]

Microsoft can't catch a break.

I'm definitely finding the people who expected the $500 bundle to do serious damage all the more amusing.

 

[Radec]

Damn Infinity Ward.

 

[Vire]

I just hope this is people finally learning how to protect themselves as consumers and not pre-ordering the game. By all means pick it up the day after it comes out if it looks good but pre-ordering game is what leads to crap like ghost or bf4.

 

[Duxxy3]

This is a downward trajectory I can get behind. It'll be nice to eventually live in a world again where annual CoD entries don't exist.

If COD disappears without a replacement, this industry is going to shrink to SNES/Genesis levels.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

If COD disappears without a replacement, this industry is going to shrink to SNES/Genesis levels.

Nothing disappears without a replacement in gaming. Whether the replacement is anything people here want, is another thing entirely.

 

[Malice215]

You can blame Ghosts for people being reluctant to pre-order AW. I don't blame fatigue because of how well Blops 2 did, but it's clear that people are waiting for word of mouth before they jump in, which I don't blame them because I'm in the same boat.

 

[popeutlal]

No worries, Black Ops 3 will have 50% higher pre-orders than AW.

 

[Alienous]

Damn Infinity Ward.

I refuse to call those imposters by that name.

If I were CEO of Activision I'd enter their offices and just start flipping shit. Computers, chairs. Then I'd take all of their awards. "These don't belong to you". Then I'd go to Bungie, make them take handwritten notes while playing Halo 1-3, and shit in their toilets without flushing.

If I were CEO of Activison, I would not allow for any of that decline bullshit.

 

[JumpJeff84]

Nothing disappears without a replacement in gaming. Whether the replacement is anything people here want, is another thing entirely.

MINECRAFT

 

[Duxxy3]

Nothing disappears without a replacement in gaming.

Eh, not to the caliber of COD no... but the music games and tony hawk come to mind. No real replacement for either of them.

 

[GPsych]

Nothing disappears without a replacement in gaming. Whether the replacement is anything people here want, is another thing entirely.

Maybe they'll turn to turn-based character driven strategy games! I can dream, right?

 

[Eggbok]

No worries, Black Ops 3 will have 50% higher pre-orders than AW.

If they upgrade League Play, have actual dedicated servers, increase the zombie map size, player count, zombie numbers or something crazy like that. I wouldn't doubt a 100% increase. There is so much Treyarch could do to bring it back up.

 

[Acquiescence]

If COD disappears without a replacement, this industry is going to shrink to SNES/Genesis levels.

You're right. Given that there's a real dearth of military shooters doing the rounds right now, there's nothing that could replace CoD should it succumb entirely to irrelevance.

 

[IISANDERII]

Ghosts is solely to blame.

No, not solely. The multiplayer gameplay footage I've seen of AW has turned me off big time, and many others.

 

[aravuus]

Yeah not at all surprising after that Ghosts shit show

 

[Jawmuncher]

Will be interesting how this affects Acti since that's their money focus.
Especially since they'll have a uphill battle with Destiny 2 after it's reception.

 

[Platinum_D]

Blame it on the Ghost

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Eh, not to the caliber of COD no... but the music games and tony hawk come to mind. No real replacement for either of them.

Which has next to zero effect on the industries growth, which is essentially my point.

People just find different games to play.

 

[Vidpixel]

Will be interesting how this affects Acti since that's their money focus.
Especially since they'll have a uphill battle with Destiny 2 after it's reception.

After all the critical responses to Destiny, I have a feeling Destiny 2 will be something special. The foundation is there, Bungie just needs to work on the periphery surrounding this solid core.

 

[Duxxy3]

Which has next to zero effect on the industries growth, which is essentially my point.

People just find different games to play.

But the console market isn't growing. Every sign points to the market shrinking. Losing its largest franchise wouldn't increase growth.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Maybe they'll turn to turn-based character driven strategy games! I can dream, right?

Im partial to resurgence of character action games and real arcade racers myself...

but sure, whatever floats your boat.

 

[Ogimachi]

Doesn't the average american gamer buy ~3 games a year? I doubt most people will buy shooters alone, so I'd say it's not just fatigue, but also people who bought destiny and those planning on buying other FPS later this year.

 

[jacksepticeye]

Ghosts messed them up.

 

[Knoxcore]

I admit, I was waiting for this day to come. The last few iterations were just terrible. It's not like there are no alternatives. There are quite a few better shooters out there. And frankly, I think the FPS genre is over saturated.

 

[StoopKid]

Really doesn't surprise me.

Ghost multiplayer was awful.

 

[Nzyme32]

Well COD has been milked pretty much as heavily as was possible, but I wouldn't be surprised if some reviews managed to perk up the pre-orders.

Still, I may well purchase it when it eventually hits the the sub £10 region purely for Kevin Spacey. Although that would be my first COD purchase since Cod 4

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

But the console market isn't growing. Every sign points to the market shrinking. Losing its largest franchise wouldn't increase growth.

The market isn't shrinking because of hardcore games, its shrinking because its losing casuals to mobile.

As for growth, ehh. Im fine with things stagnating for a bit, hopefully it will make producers more competitive for our money instead of constantly trying to trick us and screw us over.

regardless, you don't "lose" a franchise as big as COD. The worse that will happen is that it will just become a smaller franchise, instead of the mega blockbuster it has become. That means that it has to innovate more and provide more value. As a gamer, thats all I care about.

 

[frogger]

50% is probably still a lot.

 

[Rogue_element]

COD 4 remake incoming

At 1080p/60FPS on PS4 ? - Now that i would buy. No question.

 

[Raziel]

Nothing disappears without a replacement in gaming. Whether the replacement is anything people here want, is another thing entirely.

I welcome our Watch Dogs and Destiny overlords.*

*Assuming they're suitably improved.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

It's about fucking time.

I'm actually shocked it took a whole generation for it to finally "peak".

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Perhaps all that futuristic jumping and CrysisFall gameplay is scaring people?

Yup, the reason my entire clan is passing for the first time since we started with COD4.

BO2 was alright, AW is just too much.

 

[Hoodbury]

Modern/slightly future FPS fatigue. Time to go back to WWII please.

 

[Xando]

After the shitshow that ghost was im not gonna buy a COD within the first two weeks again.

 

[ComputerBlue]

At 1080p/60FPS on PS4 ? - Now that i would buy. No question.

Absolutely, I'm surprised they aren't jumping all over it. I know consumers would.

 

[Senketsu]

the Ghost effect.

 

[Kacho]

It's sad to see the decline of CoD become a reality. I'm still a big fan of the series, even after the massively disappointing Ghosts. I wonder if Treyarch's game next year will help things at all.

 

[Vidpixel]

Perhaps all that futuristic jumping and CrysisFall gameplay is scaring people?

Which is interesting, because that's one of the reasons why Advanced Warfare is actually appealing to me. I could understand why fans of the series might be hesitant on these features though.

 

[SliceSabre]

Yes I remember it. and I hated it. Along with all the other cheap shit like One Man Army/Danger Close grenade spam. And Commando. Fuck that game.

I was THAT guy and I do not regret it! But I used rockets and claymores as well. Friends used to jokes I fired more rockets and grenades than bullets. They were right of course.

 

[Canis lupus]

MW3 killed the franchise, what a terrible game that was.

 

[CosmicQueso]

No worries, Black Ops 3 will have 50% higher pre-orders than AW.

So if they had 1 million pre-orders for Ghosts, and drop 50% to 500k for AW, they're going to get 50% more for BLOPS3, or 750k?

MW3 killed the franchise, what a terrible game that was.

Except for the whole 'best-selling game of the series came after MW3' bit of course...

 

[Guerrillas in the Mist]

I wonder if they'll do what they did with Tony Hawk and Guitar Hero, and instead of re-evaluating the wisdom of annual releases, just scrap the franchise and say "fuck it, we've got Destiny and Skylanders".

...and the cycle continues.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Except for the whole 'best-selling game of the series came after MW3' bit of course...

Black Ops 2? That's just plain not true.

 

[Accident]

I doubt this means anything. Everyone in my clan is downloading the digital version.

 

[StarBlazers1]

I think this has more to do with the push toward Destiny by Activision. It was THE game to get. Now that it mostly hasn't lived up to the hype, people will more likely jump back into COD. I know a lot of people who thought that was going to be the game they played well into next year. Seems like that isn't necessarily going to happen. They will eventually fall back into the warm embraces of COD. It just may not be as heavily Preordered as it was before. It most likely will follow a different sales Trajectory.