Fancy Clown
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The game itself is amazing, and it seems they are updating it a bit, but not as much as some people had hoped for.
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Resident Evil HD Remaster confirmed for PS3/PS4/360/XB1/PC
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The game itself is amazing, and it seems they are updating it a bit, but not as much as some people had hoped for.
while this is really impressive, nearest neighbor still gives the best results
approximating shit sucks.
AuthenticM
Member
The press release says worldwide in 2015.
The OP is confusing though; it suggests that Japan is the only territory that receives the game.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Worldwide, no clue if we get the PS360 versions though on the same day.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Remote play maybe? I'd double dip when I get a PS4.All I want is a PS4 version
edit - lies. i also want a vita version (never gonna happen)
ArkkAngel007
Member
Not bad. So far it looks like it won't be another Silent Hill HD Collection. But depending on how the cropped panning screen and the lighting looks in practice, it might be a rather disappointing port on a technical level.
ArkkAngel007
Member
It's how it affects the entire presentation of gameplay. You enter a room, and everything is there in a way to draw certain reactions or provide the player with certain information. Puzzles, enemy placement, player orientation, and item placement are all a part of this.
Just because the 4:3 option is there doesn't mean people shouldn't be concerned how the game is affected in the other option. May not matter as much to those who've played it enough to be familiar with where things are and what to do, but newer players may not take well to how it's presented.
^It's clever. I just want to see it in realtime rather than a few screenshots.
Fancy Clown
Member
You can also play in 4:3 luckily
-MD-
Member
No?
If anyone is going into this game for the first time don't watch any footage. Just go into it completely blind.
Here's the thing that sucks about this, up until now nobody ever wanted or expected anything but a direct port of the Gamecube game. Nobody wanted it rebuilt, nobody even asked for a remaster, going on RE forums and discussions over the years people just wanted a straight up port. Capcom announces it as a "remaster" and everyone flips their shit albeit not as much as the day it was announced when all the psuedo-RE fans poured into this thread to voice their disgust with this remaster.
It's kinda sad as we're getting more than we ever wanted or expected and people still complain.
Oh come on that's bullshit. Nobody wanted a port with upgraded backgrounds because nobody expected that Capcom would ever actually port the game anywhere. The only reason people weren't asking for it is because they had legitimately no expectation that it would even be reasonably expectable since Capcom seemed to be shwoing no interest in it. If people knew that it was going to happen (like people now know that it's going to happen) of course they come to expect more than just 512x488 images stretched out to 1920x1440 for 16:9 players and 1440x1080 for 4:3 players.
Saying "No body was asking for it to be improved before!" is disingenuous because no body thought a port would ever happen at all.
-MD-
Member
Bullshit? You just agreed with me.
Nobody ever expected Capcom to ever do anything with the game, at most we would get a port and so that's all anybody ever asked for.
fart town usa
Gold Member
Maybe I misinterpreted your thoughts.
Here's how I read it - "Before people only wanted a port, and now that they're getting a port, they're asking for unreasonable improvements. People are being given what they asked for, but now they're asking for more."
Is that accurate, or do I misunderstand?
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
the screens for this don't look too bad, but playing on a 60 inch, I fear it's going to look like a hot mess. I've always wanted to play REmake, but imagining the screenshots of the Re-REmake that have been posted here being blown up to 10x their size.... I wish Capcom would just redo the backgrounds from scratch but keep them prerendered. That'll keep the game future proof too if they want to port it on the PS5/Xbox Two or whatever comes next
Jessie.Bristol
Member
I think if anyone were expecting a Remaster of the game, they would have been expecting the same time and attention that was given to the GameCube remake. Which they obviously fell short of with this Remaster.
-MD-
Member
I'll try and make it as clear as possible.
- Nobody expects anything from modern Capcom, we all know that they're a shit company and AT MOST they would just port the game straight up with no changes. This is all anyone has ever asked for from Capcom, just port us these older titles so we can play them.
- Capcom's old community manager Sven tried years ago to port us these older titles but Capcom are inept and it never went anywhere.
- Fast forward a couple years and they announce this remaster, now people have unreasonable expectations because it's called a "remaster". If they had just done what people have been asking them to do for years, port the fucking game, then nobody would be bitching.
That's the thing, nobody was expecting a remaster. We were all crossing our fingers for a port. This is actually better than anyone ever expected but people are still unhappy because it's not up to their standards, this is why the situation is sad. If they had done even less effort and removed the "remaster" from the title, they'd be getting less flak as it'd simply be a port.
As I said, people are never satisfied.
After thinking about it, I came to a conclusion: if Capcom indeed doesn't have the original assets and have to work over the GC ones, then the best they could reach is by using some kind of CRT filter + bloom. There's no way to keep the geometry of the image and at the same time get rid of blurring using any other filters currently available. Only CRT filters can achieve it with minimal drawback (losing brightness, but can be compensated by bloom). And using bloom with it, you can replicate GC visuals on a crt or, at least, something on par.
I made some basic crt filter to test the GC Remake backgrounds. Unfortunately I don't have a bloom to enhance the results a bit more. Yet, I think the results are very good and help to keep the details and atmosphere present in the original ones and at a resolution three times bigger, which can be cropped to use in 720p.
I made some basic crt filter to test the GC Remake backgrounds. Unfortunately I don't have a bloom to enhance the results a bit more. Yet, I think the results are very good and help to keep the details and atmosphere present in the original ones and at a resolution three times bigger, which can be cropped to use in 720p.
Nemesis_
Member
It's not a matter of "I wish that Capcom would just re-do the backgrounds".
That's a huge undertaking and is expensive in terms of time and capital.
Although I do wonder if the "masters" were still around that Capcom could perhaps do a marginally better job.
I don't care either way, I'm just glad more people get to play the greatest survival horror game ever made. Can't wait for my PS3 version to rock up in November.
and then to double dip on XBO/PS4 later on in 2015
Then I definitely disagree with your thoughts on what people expected.
I don't think people were expecting a straight port, but I also don't think they were expecting basically a ReREmake either. I think they were expecting the reasonable expectation, a port with the addition of re-rendered backgrounds.
By the way, sorry about starting my last response with "Oh come on that's bullshit." It came off as needlessly hostile, and that wasn't cool to do.
After thinking about it, I came to a conclusion: if Capcom indeed doesn't have the original assets and have to work over the GC ones, then the best they could reach is by using some kind of CRT filter + bloom. There's no way to keep the geometry of the image and at the same time get rid of blurring using any other filters currently available. Only CRT filters can achieve it with minimal drawback (losing brightness, but can be compensated by bloom). And using bloom with it, you can replicate GC visuals on a crt or, at least, something on par.
I made some basic crt filter to test the GC Remake backgrounds. Unfortunately I don't have a bloom to enhance the results a bit more. Yet, I think the results are very good and help to keep the details and atmosphere present in the original ones and at a resolution three times bigger, which can be cropped to use in 720p.
I don't know that CRT is the way to go with this. If they don't have the source files to re-render with, or aren't able to render them again, then I think a well scaled version of the backgrounds can help a lot. Going the CRT route sort of forces an effect that really changes the overall dynamic of the visuals. Perhaps give it as an option? I tried the CRT effect as an alternative before and in the end it didn't feel right.
I'm currently playing through with SweetFx + custom scaled backgrounds and sitting a few feet away from my 40" TV, the game looks good. It's not perfect, and it's definitely not noticeably higher res, but it looks good and sharp.
Most aren't asking for the backgrounds to be redone. They're asking for the original backgrounds to be re-rendered. We don't know how huge of an undertaking that is, in terms of time, development, or anything else.
Well, the original GC game ran in crt displays. So, in which way this kind of effect changes the visual dynamics?
A CRT display is not the same as an emulated CRT effect tho.
Indeed. But, looking at these backgrounds with this fake crt effect, the result is so much better than what Capcom is using. And it could be enhanced with a selective bloom, which would increase brightness and contrast.
I will definitely agree that Capcom needs to be scaling better if they do intend to scale at the end of the day.
I wonder what will be the results if you plug a PS3/360 to a real CRT TV...
SniperHunter
Banned
I just saw some gameplay videos of this yesterday and I wasn't impressed at all. It looks very archaic. This series deserved a full 3D 1080p 60 FPS, better controls, camera and gameplay remake.
Might buy the PS4 version for $5-$10 down the road
Might buy the PS4 version for $5-$10 down the road
-MD-
Member
You've come to the right place, REmake is the game for you.
Saw where?
Also, I totally disagree with the need of full 3D, FPS, camera, and gameplay remake. You're asking for a different game entirely. And realtime still couldn't do prerendered on par with the full res rendering we've seen of this game.
SniperHunter
Banned
I saw the gameplay videos of the gamecube version. It was kick ass back in the day on GC, but now eh....
I'm playing the game currently for the first time and it's still really damned good.
I've been more terrified during this game than most any other modern survival horror game. It does scares really well.
-MD-
Member
Agreed, it's still an incredible game. I started another playthrough a couple weeks ago and remembered what it was like to be scared in a video game again. It was super refreshing.
I'm holding off my Dolphin playthrough for this remake.
The Praiseworthy
Member
Let's all hope for a gameplay footage tomorrow at gamescom <3
SniperHunter
Banned
allright i will check it out
I hope they fix the loading, maybe they can load a good portion of the game on the ram and remove those awful loading cuts altogether
elementalsin
Member
More than I ever dreamed of here. Is it best possible scenario? Probably not, but damn it I'll take all the reremake I can get!
Disc read times,have improved since then, but that is irrelevant as this will be read off of the hard drive,
elementalsin
Member
My thoughts exactly Grief... Boo this man!
But honestly, great game. Cannot wait to play through it again and everyone should at least give it a shot if they haven't already. One of the greats.
Do you mean the door cutscenes? It's always been a Resident Evil trope, but I can totally understand not wanting them anymore. Even when not loading, it does still do the doors as having the game on an SSD doesn't speed up the transitions at all. Hopefully there's an option to skip them by pressing start.
elementalsin
Member
Aww come on man! Those doors just add to the flavor!
(In all honesty I could understand some wanting to skip it... I just remember the fear of waiting for that door to finish opening. What the hell was coming next!? Good times good times)
-MD-
Member
Hopefully they show the game with full 3D graphics in stunning 1080p w/ an over the shoulder camera.
Oh, you! :lol
I'm in the same boat. I dig the door transitions, but I think options are always better so I would prefer if people had the choice to skip.
Opening a door to a room and having those second of calm until you realize you forgot it had
Crimson Heads
Self_Destructive
Member
The only actual reason I want to be able to do it is for the speed runners. I think the first time through, it should be deactivated, then NG+ activated (or if a completed save file exists on the machine)
There's tension built up in some of those loading screens, and for a first timer, I think they should experience it. That said, they could maybe shorten the screens by a second or two and only leave the ones meant to build tension at their full length.
I dunno lol
Hobbestetrician
Member
May just bite the bullet and get the Wii version, don't feel like waiting until next year.
-MD-
Member
Buy both!
elementalsin
Member
...I actually don't think I can wait until next year. Haha. Truly one of the original 'NOPE' moments for me. This may very well be a double dip or I'll at least have to dust off my GC before the PS4/XBO releases.