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Retro City Rampage sales breakdown
- Thread starter KillerTravis
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Isn't the game also mission-structured, but in an open world? Like, you go to a certain point, get a mission, and then you get sent to an instanced/separate area.
I understand that the game wanted to go for a retro feel, but my first impression upon playing was that it would have benefited from having some higher resolution sprites, 3d, or even cell shading. I only played it for like 10 minutes though.
I understand that the game wanted to go for a retro feel, but my first impression upon playing was that it would have benefited from having some higher resolution sprites, 3d, or even cell shading. I only played it for like 10 minutes though.
It's not a very fun game to look at and it gets incredibly disorientating. The first 10 minutes are probably those you'll laugh the most at because of the unexpected barrage of references but that is the extent of the entire humor. Gameplay-wise it does a really poor job pacing itself and it's not that great due to some dodgy controls.
Most of the fun I get playing it is because of how silly it is and how the concept is relatively charming, but the game is honestly a bit of a mess, and not because it's trying to emulate some old school style.
The game that was released on XBLA was not the same game that was originally released on PSN. The game was changed after the initial launch, we have no idea how much further that delayed things because it would have required a complete recert.
Miles Quaritch
Member
As mentioned, changes made following feedback from the US PSN and Steam release.
Changes were made however, so it does bring into question just what was happening. It's possible he submitted for cert, as it was releasing on US PSN and Steam, noticed the less than great feedback and decided to make some changes.
I fully agree that Microsoft need to change their policies, especially in the face of what both Sony and Nintendo have done, but I don't believe we can pin the blame for RCR and its delayed release at their door.
As mentioned above, some changes were made to the game before it came out on Live Arcade.
Gunman Clive has sold a bit more in total; but made way less money (much lower price)
Also I don't really get how those revenue figures make any sense; I'm assuming he's counting the full price including the cut the platform holders take, but even then he seems to be making a lot more than 15$ per game on some platforms. I guess inflated Euro prices places plays a part, but VAT usually means the difference isn't that great.
Beril can you comment on Nintendo's policy on developers releasing sales figures? It was a big no-no in the days of WiiWare but it seems more relaxed now. Is it allowed, or still frowned upon but not as seriously as before?
The Mana Legend
Banned
Yes, but it's not spectacular. The humor especially is a pretty big letdown.
I don't really know to be honest
So, this means Gunman Clive sold around 100k across iOS, Android and 3DS, no?
Why does the article say the Wiiware version has earned less than $100,000 with less than 5000 units sold? The Wii version only costs $10. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say less than $50,000 earned? (Or $0 earned since it didn't reach the sales threshhold.)
Developer of Go! Go! Kokopolo aka the best indie game you've never heard of.
Developer of Go! Go! Kokopolo aka the best indie game you've never heard of.
Which means it has sold >50k on eShop right? That's good, I think?
Thanks. I've heard of it but never seen anything of it. Looks a lot of fun.
EDIT: Sorry for double post.
While the quality of the game is subjective, XBLA is a clusterfuck for browsing. Unless you are only interested in dashboard ads for mainstream products in and outwith gaming.
frankie_baby
Member
i was interested in the wii version like 2 years ago, just took far too long to come
No its not. There is an easy to find XBLA section that displays all titles by either release date or name. Maybe it was a problem with the last dash revision but not any more.
iceatcs
Junior Member
So the other systems too.
The Wiiware version might have a shot at making money actually, since it's only 7 MB and the sales threshold is lower for games which are smaller than 16 MB (seriously). It needs to sell 4000 copies in North America or 2000 copies in Europe to make money; with 5000 copies sold total, that means it's within 500 copies of the threshold in at least one of those regions.
Uncle0wnage
Member
It's one of the worst indie games I've played. It isn't fun in the slightest, feels small and empty for an open world game, and costs 20 times what it's worth. I regret buying it. You'd have more fun buying ten drinks from McDonald's than playing this game.
Like the hat?
Banned
Did my part and bought the wii ware version. I had been waiting for the wii ware one for like what, four years or something. I couldn't not buy it.
Schobeleth
Member
People either love or hate this game. I love it. It was free on Plus so if you didn't get it... shame!
quickwhips
Member
Everyone is playing minecraft waiting on state of decay.
SniperHunter
Banned
will buy on vita
LiquidSolid
Member
Let's not pretend like this would be the first time someone ran into delays due to Microsoft's slot system, so even if the 360 version of RCR wasn't actually ready when Brian Provinciano said it was, there's still clearly a problem there.
And going back to the first bit, there's always the possibility that he did resubmit it (not wanting to use up his free patch) and that's one of the reasons why it costed so much.
Oh Nintendo.
Kenshin001
Member
Well we know that the XBLA version was 99.9% done and he was just waiting for a slot when the US PSN version released because that is what the dev said himself. I guess he made the most of that time.
Haunted
Member
To be honest, it's not that great.
Oh, right. Makes sense.
Delusibeta
Banned
Evidently you've never played Chronovolts.
Being out first and offering cross-buy helped the PSN version's sales greatly, I'm sure.
You do know the dev put out an update that fixed that mission and others, right? I remember that mission made me drop the game for a while but now it takes far less time and is a lot more forgiving thanks to a few changes.
I used to hate RCR, but after replaying it I had a much better opinion of it. The gameplay can be repetitive but the game throws enough varied missions at you to keep things fresh, humor wears out later on but is pretty funny while it lasts, it looks awesome on the Vita (and the special filters are fun to mess around with), the soundtrack is downright awesome, and playing retro versions of Super Meat Boy, Bit Trip Runner, and 'Splosion Man (sorta) to unlock them is fun.
i hate chronovolt so much
no vita game can ever be worse
Shitty tailing missions don't get a free pass to be shitty just because they're ironic or whatever.
You do know the dev put out an update that fixed that mission and others, right? I remember that mission made me drop the game for a while but now it takes far less time and is a lot more forgiving thanks to a few changes.
I used to hate RCR, but after replaying it I had a much better opinion of it. The gameplay can be repetitive but the game throws enough varied missions at you to keep things fresh, humor wears out later on but is pretty funny while it lasts, it looks awesome on the Vita (and the special filters are fun to mess around with), the soundtrack is downright awesome, and playing retro versions of Super Meat Boy, Bit Trip Runner, and 'Splosion Man (sorta) to unlock them is fun.
i hate chronovolt so much
no vita game can ever be worse
PixyJunket
Member
One thing to consider (and I posted this in a previous thread when BriPro was on Twitter rallying fanboys with "Sony rules, Microsoft sucks!" rhetoric) is that the game had such an overwhelming negative reception when it was released, which had to have trickled down to people's decision to purchases it when it was released elsewhere.
If it had released day and date on XBLA or WW, I probably would have blind bought it, but decided not to once I heard that the game was mostly a mess and it almost solely relied on making constant references to lull unsuspecting gamers into acquiescence.
If it had released day and date on XBLA or WW, I probably would have blind bought it, but decided not to once I heard that the game was mostly a mess and it almost solely relied on making constant references to lull unsuspecting gamers into acquiescence.
Pretty much lol
Well that sucks. Hope it hits the threshold eventually.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Son plays this a lot on Vita.
Miles Quaritch
Member
It's the main reason I didn't buy it. I was really looking forward to be but the feedback after the US PSN and Steam release completely destroyed any interest I had in the game/ This is why developers should aim for simultaneous release on all platforms, if you don't and your game isn't very good, you're going to suffer tremendously in terms of sales.
Wow, so for all the effort the guy put into the game, Nintendo made about $100,000 on it and he made nothing.
I don't know why on earth ANYBODY put games out on WiiWare.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Virtual Console was in the works a LONG time. Like, originally planned for 64DD sort of long.
frankie_baby
Member
well its only been out a few weeks and it seems it may be pretty close so it will probably tip over eventually
and if it doesn't he could always do the give some copies away 'free' trick i seem to remember some wiiware dev doing
frankie_baby
Member
in the parallel world where the n64 trounced the ps1 the 64dd was the most amazing thing ever released
He has two years to hit the sales threshold, and if these numbers are accurate then he's pretty much guaranteed to reach it. Not that it excuses Nintendo's policy in any way.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
In that parallel world I'm pretty sure N64 shipped with a CD-ROM drive.
Yeah, that's true I suppose.
frankie_baby
Member
In that parallel world I'm pretty sure N64 shipped with a CD-ROM drive.
eurghh!!!!! cd n64 would have been horrible, the DD would've been amazing, think nintendo's biggest mistake was not including it built in
uncledonnie
Banned
Sorry game is just boring as hell. And by the time it got to XBLA, everyone knew that.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I dunno, I'd have liked 3rd party games on my N64.
I do kinda wonder how things might've gone had Nintendo just built the 64DD into the system day one though. Japanese devs might not have uniformly rejected it then?
Are you sure? I think sales will be pretty much down after relatively high launch sales because nobody seems to be using WiiWare anymore. And I doubt that it's going to get any better in a year or so.
Maybe I hyped myself up but I was pretty let down :/
frankie_baby
Member
I dunno, I'd have liked 3rd party games on my N64.
I do kinda wonder how things might've gone had Nintendo just built the 64DD into the system day one though. Japanese devs might not have uniformly rejected it then?
i loved the 3rd party games i had on my n64