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Rise of the Tomb Raider: Preview and Technical Analysis (NX Gamer)
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Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
The last Tomb Raider, especially the facial animation, didn't look anywhere near as natural. I mean look at this character model. The eyes especially look way more convincing.
look at these environments
It's so incredibly disingenuous to say that it looks identical.
Also this is what AC3 snow looked like.
I see you bring up console war stuff a lot.
Omnistalgic
Member
lol...thought I was the only one, every thread my man is on Xbox defense to the max! we get it, Xbox is a great piece of hardware, and has some great games, no need for the shield and armor.
BigSoftieFF
Member
I thought the same. Most of that guys posts are painful to read.
Chobel
Member
Holy shit! Crossing Eden downplaying an AC game. I never thought I'd live to see this day.
Poor Percy, he probably thought he'd be safe by bringing up comparisons with AC3.
Poor Percy, he probably thought he'd be safe by bringing up comparisons with AC3.
LOL
semiconscious
Member
Not being impressed by leap from last TR to this one = console wars? It really does not take much, does it?
You are not the only one, believe me.
You are not the only one, believe me.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I sincerely want an explanation on how you think the game looks identical, despite all of the new tech that objectively makes this game look better. I mean just for comparison's sake of the last gen and definitive version.
Since apparently it's the only thing I say right (isn't that what you said in a previous thread)? You seem to only pop up during the rare times in I say something similar to what you've quoted which I find a bit strange. Trying really hard to make a (silly) perception look true.
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How much is "a lot"?
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I've made similar posts in threads involving games for other consoles so I'm not sure how it's "Xbox defense".
Really not sure what I did to some of you guys but I find it funny how my pretty simple/basic posts gets such a "team-up" reaction in certain threads as if I stated something that just's so insane or unbelievable. Very strange to me!
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Wow, someone actually mentioned ps2 era games being comparable in terms of the snow deformation in this game. Now I've seen it all.
Not entirely accurate, they never actually said the PS2 games were comparable.
Of course if that's not what they were implying with their comment, then I'm really not sure why the comment was made.
Thread A: It's a huge difference, super noticeable, you'd have to be blind to not see it. 16 bajillion pixels difference. Facts.
Thread B: Really, the dev said that? Are we sure though? Can someone double check this for us? You sure he's not Greenberg?
I'll be glad to change the OP to say that, many of us here would be, but how do you know that he means rendering at 1080p and not just outputting at 1080p? If you can confirm that, I'll change it in a heartbeat and go to bed a happier person than I was before, knowing that the game is native resolution.
People are going by the OP content from NX gamer, not from opinions.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Not to mention "the game looks identical and the snow deformation looks like this last gen game." I'm never gonna get that explanation on how Percy feels that way because it was complete nonsense. It's just so utterly disrespectful because the devs put in a ton of work to make Lara look much better, which you could see the moment she pulled her hood down. Meanwhile, here's some facts about the advancements and challenges that wenty into Lara's character model.
As well as a picture.
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djblackice
Member
Nvm.
No, it's all about that grapling hook now.
jk
Also Its looks strange because the bear fell inside the puddle, plus there's already a tree shadow there. Shadow over shadow is always a problem.
On a side note, the bear blood being diluted in the water is a nice touch.
Yeah those youtube guys definitely know something the director of the game doesn't.
"Opinions" lol
You claimed comments on gaf are the source of doubts with "hmm maybe." We're only discussing the content given by the video provided, not bringing out doubt for the sake of it.
Was in the first, but it felt more like an upgrade system really. With the addition of rare materials there could be some more tangible crafting options.
You haven't answered my question.
Crafting was available in TR2013, crafting is now "deeper", however.
What are you even talking about? The director of the game himself has confirmed the demo was 1080p. Despite that, plenty of posters are doubting it including the OP who linked the tweet and said it "might" be 1080p after all.
I'll take occam's razor for 200. Same reason I won't ask you to prove NX weren't playing on a 900p television.
Err, pixel counting so done using a capture, not while the game is running. Also, it doesn't matter what display you use, you zoom on the capture until you start seeing pixels. But I will update the OP.
The video, the topic of the thread.
Honestly, at a glance, it they do look pretty similar, but I would argue it's more of a compliment on how damn good the first TR looked. It lacked in other areas, I felt, but graphics were pretty phenomenal. Placed side by side, yeah, I can see the improvements, but just from memory, they're close.
However, the improvements of the environments are pretty obvious. I really hope RotTR blows us out of the water, since I really liked a lot of what they did with the TR reboot.
But, there wasn't crafting during gameplay correct, ala TLoU? I remember the upgrades for the bow, but those were done in the menu?
That's cool. But since the video was posted, the director of the game has responded saying that the demo is 1080p.
Are you pretending his tweet doesn't exist?
To be honest, I get why you worded it that way and that's not really a problem. I'm more responding to the posters who are simply ignoring our outright disputing what he said.
No biggie.
Of course not, that tweet wasn't around when the discussion started, so speculation before then isn't about us being doubtful. I didn't see people talking of 900p after the tweet, but if they were then obviously we were wrong.
SnowFlakeCake
Member
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Please point me to the ps2 game that was doing anything even remotely close to the above. And presumably that's not even how good it will look in the final game when they polish it up.
The trail looks absolutely horrendous, thankfully the actual gameplay segment after that was good but this is a tech thread and damn, the cross gen base of this game shows. It's not a very impressive game at all on a tech front, there was no need for them to go cross generation for this, rather just worry about the XB1 and nothing else. Can only assume that the studio thought last generation sales would not fall off a cliff like they did.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
I'm not getting the love for this NX Gamer dude. Doesn't he just do everything by eye off videos? How do you take that seriously?
Don't Digital Foundary have actual equipment/software they use to measure framerates, resolution etc?
Don't Digital Foundary have actual equipment/software they use to measure framerates, resolution etc?
Wait, did that tweet come out right after I updated the OP? Does it have to do with my wording?
Yes.
He posted that 12 hours ago. Can't really mince messages with that and yea that last response was minutes ago.
Pretty sure NXGamer only downloaded the video from CD website, like everyone else. There's no "code given".
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
From memory so many last gen game look a lot better than they actually did. Yes the original did look really good. But the difference was immediately apparent to me, I said "wow" when she turned and started talking. Truth be told keyframed facial animation on these super realistic characters really don't cut it anymore so it's good to see them using facial capture for their characters.
Yeah, menu based at camp for TR '13. Rise gameplay vids show the same crafting menu at camps, but I can't remember if there was any on-the-fly crafting.