Aaronrules380
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Mario maker is rated more as a level creator than just a 2d platformers lets be honest. Not to mention the "potential" factor figures highly into such a level creator
Mario maker is rated more as a level creator than just a 2d platformers lets be honest. Not to mention the "potential" factor figures highly into such a level creator
There was a rumor in twitter shortly after the reveal of the game and he was briefly listed on Wikipedia as Supervisor but when that was brought up in the reveal thread we got this:Didnt Sakamoto supervised Splatoon??
I don't know what the source is, or the validity of Sakamoto supervising an EAD game directly. Anything is possible but this may be a mistake, since Sakamoto has his own internal game group inside the Nintendo SPD division.
Then again, everything was just restructured so who knows what is going on..
Hosokawa and Morisawa also worked on Wario Land 4, Fusion, Zero and Other M. The continuity is there, except for Other M those three people were the only ones left from the initial RD1 staff.A lot of those Sakamoto credits for his contributions to games are special thanks, advisor or designer.
Sakamoto is not why Wario Land 4 is awesome.
Like, you guys see "they stuck Retro with the Other M guy," and I see "ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THE BEST METROID GAMES THAT WE ALL LOVE ARE WORKING TOGETHER IN THE SAME PLACE while Tanabe is elsewhere working on some whatever kiddie multiplayer spin-off for kids"
Balloon Fight (1984) Game Designer
Wrecking Crew (1985) Director, game Designer
Gumshoe (1986) Director, game Designer
Metroid (1986) Game Designer
Kid Icarus (1986) Game Designer
Balloon Kid (1990) Director
X (1992) Director
Kaeru no Tame ni Kane wa Naru (1992) - Scenario Writer
Super Metroid (1994) Director, Scenario Writer
Teleroboxer (1995) Director
Galactic Pinball (1995) Special Thanks
Game & Watch Gallery (1997) Advisor
Trade & Battle: Card Hero (2000) Director
Wario Land 4 (2001) Supervisor
Metroid Prime (2002) Special Thanks
Metroid Fusion (2002) Director, Scenario Writer
Wario World (2003) Advisor
WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$! (2003) Supervisor
WarioWare: Touched! (2004) Producer
Metroid: Zero Mission (2004) Director
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes (2004) Special Thanks
Metroid Prime Pinball (2005) Special Thanks
WarioWare: Smooth Moves (2006) Producer
Rhythm Tengoku (2006) Producer
Picross DS (2007) Supervisor
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (2007) Special Thanks
Rhythm Heaven (2008) General Producer
WarioWare: D.I.Y. (2009) Producer
Tomodachi Collection (2009, Japan exclusive) Producer
Metroid: Other M (2010) Director, Producer, Scenario Writer
Rhythm Heaven Fever (2011) General Producer
Kiki Trick (2012) Supervisor
Game & Wario (2013) Producer
Tomodachi Life (2013 in Japan, 2014 worldwide) Producer
The projects in which he has been a producer is almost impecable in terms of sales and success... but he made Other M so I guess Nintendo should burn him or something.
HOLY SHIIIIIIIT (if true)
So, Retro are working on Metroid (great rejoicing) but it's being overseen by Sakamoto! FUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Darkest fucking timeline!
I can totally understand Nintendo wanting a member of NCL there on the ground, but wow!
Still, everyone loves a good redemption story. Imagine Metroid Prime 4 comes out to rave reviews, and at the end: "Directed by Yoshio Sakamoto". He would be redeemed. Even a producer credit on a great game would salvage a large part of his reputation.
I'm rooting for you man!
(Time to catch up on the thread, sorry)
A lot of those Sakamoto credits for his contributions to games are special thanks, advisor or designer.
Sakamoto is not why Wario Land 4 is awesome.
Is it that hard to accept that Other M really soured people on Sakamoto?
It doesn't need to be salvaged. He's a great director and a great producer who had a misstep. The fact that some people on the internet CANNOT.LET.IT.GO is their problem.
I'd prefer the team to do whatever they are most passionate about. From the looks of tropical freeZe they put a lot of heart and soul into that game but do they really want to keep doing dkc forever? I have my doubtsI really hope this doesn't mean the end of Donkey Kong games by Retro. I'm in the minority when it comes to wanting a new Metroid. If it's Sakamoto though, then I'm concerned.
(He had no involvement in Warioware Twisted which is my favorite one)
Retro DESERVES their freedom.They thought that they had more proven themselves and that they didn't need an NCL producer holding their hand anymore.
he's literally the first name in the credits
So out of that list he directed Super Metroid which is his best game on the list by far. He also produced some Warioware games as well as Rhythm Heaven and Tomodachi. (He had no involvement in Warioware Twisted which is my favorite one)
I dont understand why people think hes this legendary developer though? Hes no Gunpei Yokoi, Miyamoto, or Sakurai. Even with a game i love to death like Pikmin 2, i still dont like some decisions Miyamoto has made over the years.
Is it that hard to accept that Other M really soured people on Sakamoto?
It doesn't need to be salvaged. He's a great director and a great producer who had a misstep. The fact that some people on the internet CANNOT.LET.IT.GO is their problem.
Its not that people are soured with him, is the claims that anything he could touch will turn to shit. Supe Metroid is arguably still the best in the franchise, and he still produces awesome games like Megamix. The guy deserves another chance.
Retro DESERVES their freedom.
Considering he directed one of the best games on the Virtual Boy i dont think hes total shit. Im just giving credit where its due for why Other M is how it is.
If they are under Sakamoto, they effectively are free. I don't know how many times this needs to be stated but Sakamoto was (prior to merger and promotions) the man in charge of all of SPD. He was Tanabe's boss and the man who oversaw all external production. If Retro is now directly under Sakamoto, they would effectively have (in the old structure) become their own branch of SPD rather than a sub-wing of SPD-3 under Tanabe. He has his own development team, he's not going to suddenly also be taking Retro under as a development team.
They serve to gain autonomy and clout from this, not lose it. They are now under one of the most senior and respected men at Nintendo, and I suspect either Sakamoto himself or Miyamoto was responsible for the shift as the latter is a fan of the studio.
This also gels well with the older rumor of them working on their own pitched project. If these rumors collide and verify, then, ya, Retro is effectively now operating under their own devices with Sakamoto as their direct connection to the NCL top.
No one is arguing that Sakamoto's directing and writing is a big reason why Other M is disliked. But to paint such a wide brush based on one game when the dude has such a huge and varied body of work is honestly unfair.
Donkey Kong: Other K les go
THE BANANA
The problem with this is that Retro is quite possibly / probably working on Metroid, which is Sakamoto's, well, baby. It makes sense that he'd leave other teams to do what they want to / need to, but with Metroid it's hard not to feel like he'd want to get hands on and interfere. It's also hard not to imagine that, as a high-level employee with plenty of pull, that he would have asked to be put in this position for exactly that purpose.
I see no indication that Retro is working on Metroid.
I pretty much focus all of my hate on the game and not him, but ultimately it'd go a long way for him to acknowledge that it was a troubled game.
I don't think we need him to make a public statement on it to give you catharsis.
Other M was a disappointment. These things happen. It's time to move on.
That's goodIf they are under Sakamoto, they effectively are free. I don't know how many times this needs to be stated but Sakamoto was (prior to merger and promotions) the man in charge of all of SPD. He was Tanabe's boss and the man who oversaw all external production. If Retro is now directly under Sakamoto, they would effectively have (in the old structure) become their own branch of SPD rather than a sub-wing of SPD-3 under Tanabe. He has his own development team, he's not going to suddenly also be taking Retro under as a development team.
They serve to gain autonomy and clout from this, not lose it. They are now under one of the most senior and respected men at Nintendo, and I suspect either Sakamoto himself or Miyamoto was responsible for the shift as the latter is a fan of the studio.
This also gels well with the older rumor of them working on their own pitched project. If these rumors collide and verify, then, ya, Retro is effectively now operating under their own devices with Sakamoto as their direct connection to the NCL top.
I see no indication that Retro is working on Metroid.
Sure, we don't know what Retro are working on. But history indicates there's a strong possibility that it's either DK or Metroid.
I guess the whole thing is that IF retro are working on a new metroid for NX (which makes sense to me as even a trailer of such would energise their hardcore support at launch) then I'd rather Sakamoto not be involved at all. If they're not making Metroid, then I feel like I lose anyway, as there's no new Retro Metroid. Feels like a lose-lose.
What part of "Please don't have Sakamoto work on Metroid again, the only one he's directed in the last decade was complete shit" calls him a depraved lunatic?2
People still bitching as if Sakamoto is some sort of depraved lunatic are morons. Plain and simple. Grow up and use your heads or shut up.
If they are under Sakamoto, they effectively are free. I don't know how many times this needs to be stated but Sakamoto was (prior to merger and promotions) the man in charge of all of SPD. He was Tanabe's boss and the man who oversaw all external production. If Retro is now directly under Sakamoto, they would effectively have (in the old structure) become their own branch of SPD rather than a sub-wing of SPD-3 under Tanabe. He has his own development team, he's not going to suddenly also be taking Retro under as a development team.
They serve to gain autonomy and clout from this, not lose it. They are now under one of the most senior and respected men at Nintendo, and I suspect either Sakamoto himself or Miyamoto was responsible for the shift as the latter is a fan of the studio.
This also gels well with the older rumor of them working on their own pitched project. If these rumors collide and verify, then, ya, Retro is effectively now operating under their own devices with Sakamoto as their direct connection to the NCL top.
As far as I can tell he has never made a successful 3d title and his last decade is filled with various minigame collections of varying success. It's fair to be sceptical.
Per fucking Donkey Kong.Or it's all just a big bunch of bullshit, and nobody has any clue what Retro is up to, per fucking usual.
Tbh I would call "crazy" or "King K Rool fan" to a person that entertain the notion that Sakamoto will not have ANY kind of involvement in any new Metroid game.What part of "Please don't have Sakamoto work on Metroid again, the only one he's directed in the last decade was complete shit" calls him a depraved lunatic?
If his creative decisions for the last one were all terrible, why would I want him involved? Do you think that Sakamoto having some involvement in a Metroid game makes it inherently better?Tbh I would call "crazy" or "King K Rool fan" to a person that entertain the notion that Sakamoto will not have ANY kind of involvement in any new Metroid game.
While I think Retro did a good job with DK I think it's a waste of Retro's talent to have them developing it. Let them do something slightly more mature.
Inb4 Sakamato made one mistake out of many awesome games.
ftfyGuess like Miyamoto is now just the "man who ruined Paper Mario: Sticker Star", Sakamoto is just damned as the "man who ruined Metroid"
If they are under Sakamoto, they effectively are free. I don't know how many times this needs to be stated but Sakamoto was (prior to merger and promotions) the man in charge of all of SPD. He was Tanabe's boss and the man who oversaw all external production. If Retro is now directly under Sakamoto, they would effectively have (in the old structure) become their own branch of SPD rather than a sub-wing of SPD-3 under Tanabe. He has his own development team, he's not going to suddenly also be taking Retro under as a development team.
They serve to gain autonomy and clout from this, not lose it. They are now under one of the most senior and respected men at Nintendo, and I suspect either Sakamoto himself or Miyamoto was responsible for the shift as the latter is a fan of the studio.
This also gels well with the older rumor of them working on their own pitched project. If these rumors collide and verify, then, ya, Retro is effectively now operating under their own devices with Sakamoto as their direct connection to the NCL top.
Miyamoto didn't direct Sticker Star, he just passed down some mandates.Guess like Miyamoto is now just the "man who ruined Paper Mario: Sticker Star", Sakamoto is just damned as the "man who ruined Metroid; Other M".
Well the Other K part of the joke was made...I see the joke about Donkey Kong : Other K featuring Kiddy Kong have already been made.
Personally I want to see DK suffering a panic attack upon seeing either Mario or K Rool for the millionth time.Donkey Kong: Other K les go
THE BANANA
Because it's one of the most jaded, vapid and deceitful slander that has spread like wild fire in modern social media. That instead of understanding the triumphs and underachievements that came from the end product they just jump on a bandwagon on stuff like "the baby".The idea that Retro is forced into making X game is so silly.
What part of "Please don't have Sakamoto work on Metroid again, the only one he's directed in the last decade was complete shit" calls him a depraved lunatic?
NATURAL SPLENDOUR for title of federation force OT?this part from the OP
reminds me of a funny bit in the Game & Wario Iwata Asks
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wiiu/gameandwario/0/3
NATURAL SPLENDOUR for title of federation force OT?
Maybe Other K will be the anti-Other M: Instead of being a terrible new 3D vision of Metroid following the great Metroid Prime games, it will be a fantastic new 3D vision of Donkey Kong following the garbage Donkey Kong 64.Well the Other K part of the joke was made...
Personally I want to see DK suffering a panic attack upon seeing either Mario or K Rool for the millionth time.