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[Fry]

Can't wait to pay to see Polanski's new masterpiece.

 

[Zeliard]

It seems the issue people have with watching his films is that it nets him money, so logically you should be extending your boycott to whoever is directly enabling him, so as to attempt a bit of consistency. After all, if watching his movies is such a terrible thing because it allows him to live the lifestyle he's accustomed to, then certainly his being funded to make films and netting strong casts in the first place should be seen as much worse. Yet strangely I'm not seeing any blame for that going to the cast or producers, who are free to do what they want - only the viewers.

The actors who have no problem working with him - which is presumably due to his background as a director rather than as a rapist (the same reason people watch his movies, incidentally) - what's to make of all of them? Harrison Ford accepted an Oscar for Roman Polanski and personally delivered it to him overseas. Is he morally corrupt? All of the actors who signed that petition?

Polanski's films are made in conjunction with several others and I'm not thinking "too bad this was directed by a rapist" when I'm watching something as engrossing as The Pianist. Professional and personal life can be distinguished, and no shortage of people considered great throughout human history have done or said heinous, damaging things, and yet their work is still largely held as something separate unless there are clear influences.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

a defense force for everything. if on GAF say Gaborn, for example, posted a thread about a man drugging and anally and vaginally raping a 13 year old that he lured to his house 99% of all posts would be about how the man should get the death penalty or life in jail.
screw Polanski and anything he ever makes.

 

[ConradCervantes]

He'll be dead soon anyways. That happens to old people more often than not. I'd rather he be eaten alive by a crocodile than in his bed peacefully, but dead is dead.

Are there any actors of note who have come out and said they'd never work with him?

 

[Stinkles]

Jesus Christ. The world is capricious and cruel. Some people never pay for their crimes. Get over it. What is indignation going to solve? Really?

I am entitled to my indig...hey who is your avatar

 

[ZedIndyLil]

Ayayayay, this thread... All I can say is that the guy is an asshole, but The Pianist is one of the best Holocaust films ever.

Oh, and I can also say that the OP's choice of pics is highly amusing for some reason.

 

[ComputerMKII]

He'll be dead soon anyways. That happens to old people more often than not. I'd rather he be eaten alive by a crocodile than in his bed peacefully, but dead is dead.

Are there any actors of note who have come out and said they'd never work with him?

I don't have such a list but I know who do support Polanski:

Woody Allen, Martin Scorcese, Monica Bellucci, Pedro Almódovar, Jonathan Demme, Tilda Swinton, David Lynch, John Landis, Asia Argento, Alejandro González Iñárritu, Harvey Weinstein, Darren Aronofsky, Alexander Payne, Whoopi Goldberg, Debra Winger, Olivia A. Bugnon, Michael A. Russ, Erika Abrams, Marguerite Aflallo, Fortunio Aflallo, Stéphane Agussol, Fatih Akin, Yves Alberty, Stephane Allagnon, Brice Allavoine, Woody Allen, Gianni Amelio, Greta Amend, Wes Anderson, Michel Andrieu, Roger Andrieux, Pascale Angelini, Yannick Angelloznicoud, Jean-Jacques Annaud, Bernard Anne, Tomas Arana, Frédéric Aranzueque-Arrieta, Alexandre Arcady, Fanny Ardant, Judith Arlt, Marie-Hélène Arnau, Stéphane Arnoux, Stéphanie Arques-Voitoux, Olivier Assayas, Alexander Astruc, Simone Audissou, Gabriel Auer, Jennifer Augé, Zdzicho Augustyniak, Alexandre Babel, Vladimir Bagrianski, Jean-Yves Bainier, Hélène Bainier, Lubomila Bakardi, Fausto Nicolás Balbi, Eleonor Baldwin, Jean-François Balmer, Alberto Barbera Museo nazionale de Torino , Sylvie Bardet-Borel, Ruth Barensteiner, Luc Barnier, Christophe Barratier, Ernest Barteldes, Carmen Bartl, Pascal Batigne, Sylvette Baudrot, Anne Baudry, Henning Bauer, Tone Bay, Juan Antonio Bayona, Xavier Beauvois, Liria Begeja, Matthieu Béguelin, Gilles Behat, Jean-Jacques Beineix, Marco Bellochio, Yannick Bellon, Florence Bellone, Véra Belmont, Jacqueline Belon, Jean-Marc Benguigui, Djamel Bennecib, Saïd Ben-Said, Luc Béraud, Jean-Pierre Berckmans, Jacob Berger, Christof Berger, Alain Berliner, Gael Garcia Bernal, Pascal Berney, Xavier Berry, Jean-Paul Bertin, Bernardo Bertolucci, Giuseppe Bertolucci, Jean-Marie Besset, Nico Beyer, Marlène Bisson, Arnstein Bjørkly, Lucien Blacher, Virginie Blanc-Brude Bard, Jean-Marc Bloch, Léa Bloch, Marks Blond, Catherine Boissière, Anne-Sylvie Bonaud, Olivier Bonnet, Thierry Boscheron, Renata Bosco, Freddy Bossy, Claudia Bottino, Jacqueline Bouchard, Louise Anne Bouchard, Patrick Bouchitey, Cédric Bouchoucha, Paul Boujenah, Patrice Bourbon, Frédéric Bourboulon, Jérôme Bourgon, Etienne Boussac, Christine Bouthemy, Katia Boutin, Elizabeth Brach, Ian Brady, Jacques Bral, Sophie Bramly, Paulo Branco, Patrick Braoudé, Guila Braoudé, Edwin Brienen, Adrien Brody, Stéphane Brodzki, Isabelle Broué, Max Brun, Merima Bruncevic, Bastien Brunel, Caroline Brunner, Anne Burki, André Buytaers, Emilie Buzyn, Anthony Byrne, Come Caca, Marco Cacioppo, Gerald Calderon, Monica Cannizzaro, Peggy Carajopoulou-Vavali, John Carchietta, Christian Carion, Angela Carlin, Henning Carlsen, Jean-Michel Carré, Esteban Carvajal Alegria, Lionel Cassan, Bryan Cassiday, Pascale Castioni, Miss Catadler, Steve Catieau, Mathieu Celary, Pedro Celestino, Teco Celio, Muriel Cerf, Dabiel Chabannes, Thierry Chabert, Chagi, Jean-Yves Chalangeas, Daniel Champagnon, Christophe Champclaux, Georges Chappedelaine, Litseselidis Charalampos, Yann Charbonnier, David Charhon, Fabienne Chauveau, Claire Chazal, Patrice Chéreau, Hubert Chertier, Brigitte Chesneau, Marie-Christine Chesneau, Michel Chevalier, Mishka Cheyko, Catherine Chiono, Catherine Chouchan, Elie Chouraqui, Alex Cichy, Souleymane Cissé, Jean- Pierre Clech, Henri Codenie, Robert Cohen, Olivier Cohen, Lilia Cohen Decerisy, Catherine Colassin, Suzanne Colonna, Jean-Paul Commin, Andrea Concato, Patrick Conrad, Anne Consigny, Alain Cophignon, Antony Cordier, Alain Corneau, Jérôme Cornuau, Bruno Coulais, Guy Courtecuisse, Miguel Courtois, Antoine Courtray, Christiane Courvoisier, Guillaume Cousin, Morgan Crestel, Rudyard Cretenet, Dominique Crevecoeur, Alfonso Cuaron, Estelle Cywje, Isabelle D. 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Professional Organizations:

- The Académie des César (the French equivalent to the Oscars)
(...)
- The Cannes film festival
(...)
- The cast and crew of The Ghost Writer
- Pathé

http://www.popcrunch.com/celebrities-support-polanski/

 

[Blader]

It always seemed strange to me that Hollywood appears more supportive of Polanski than of Elia Kazan, whose "crime" was much much less offensive.

 

[Zeliard]

But what if the man made ART and had a bunch of ARTISTS say he's a really nice guy and even sign a petition and work for him. (He'd still be culpable for raping a thirteen year old is what.)

Try to read. I'm not saying that condones anything. I'm saying you should be vilifying those actors, directors, etc because they are continuing to ensure that Roman Polanski makes the movies he wants to make with the people he wants to make them with. Which you decry, and it's amusing that you're continuing to ignore it, seeing as how you have no trouble throwing vitriol at movie-watchers for it. Following, or are you still too wrapped up in self-righteous indignation?

 

[antonz]

It always seemed strange to me that Hollywood appears more supportive of Polanski than of Elia Kazan, whose "crime" was much much less offensive.

Not too surprising really. Former Child Actor Corey Feldman actually just had a big interview where he pointed out one of the biggest problems and poorly kept secret is how rampant pedophilia is in the business.

the 40-year-old former child star said that pedophiles were "like vultures" in the entertainment industry. "The number one problem in Hollywood was, is and always will be pedophilia," he said. "It's all done under the radar... But it's the big secret." The Lost Boys actor said he was "literally surrounded" by pedophiles at the age of 14, but didn't realize "until I was much older what they were and what they wanted."

"There was a circle of older men that surrounded themselves around this group of kids," he said. "They all had either their own power, or connections to great power in the entertainment industry." Feldman said that Haim's substance addiction was also a "symptom" of the molestation he experienced earlier in life. "There's a lot of good people in this industry, but there's also a lot of really, really sick, corrupt people in this industry," Feldman said. "There are people… who have gotten away with [pedophilia] for so long that they feel that they're above the law.

 

[THE-Pink-Dagger]

But what if the man made ART and had a bunch of ARTISTS say he's a really nice guy and even sign a petition and work for him. (He'd still be culpable for raping a thirteen year old is what.)

Yeah, the RPDF makes my head spin.

First of all, what I'm about to say doesnt excuse what Polanski did, but when he did what he did, he was in really dark places, I mean his wife was murdered by the crazy Manson, can you imagine in what state you would be?!

 

[Speevy]

I mean his wife was murdered by the crazy Manson, can you imagine in what state you would be?!

I would be in whatever state my wife's killer was in, shooting them in the head.

 

[ComputerMKII]

First of all, what I'm about to say doesnt excuse what Polanski did, but when he did what he did, he was in really dark places, I mean his wife was murdered by the crazy Manson, can you imagine in what state you would be?!

I don't see how even surviving the Holocaust and having your wife brutally murdered gives you an excuse to drug and rape a child, but there are a lot of things about the case I may not know.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

It's classism, is what it is.

If Polanski was a garbage man and he anal raped a 13 year old girl, people wouldn't want to support him. They'd want the smelly garbage man who anally raped a little girl locked up forever.

But oh, he's rich and an artist, and hands out with celebs. He can anal rape children and we can all tell ourselves "Im so awesome because I can separate his WORK from the MAN, like their can possibly somehow be a good way to support an unrepentant child rapist.

“If I had killed somebody, it wouldn’t have had so much appeal to the press, you see?

But… fucking, you see, and the young girls.

Judges want to fuck young girls. Juries want to fuck young girls. Everyone wants to fuck young girls!”

-Roman Polanski, Child Rapist

 

[computers putin']

A pretty reasonable line to draw, really.

I'd say so too.

 

[THE-Pink-Dagger]

I don't see how even surviving the Holocaust and having your wife brutally murdered gives you an excuse to drug and rape a child, but there are a lot of things about the case I may not know.

Wow wow, did he drug the child?! I may not know everything about the case but was everything actually proved?! But I think he wasnt in his right mind in this period.

 

[Speevy]

Wow wow, did he drug the child?! I may not know everything about the case but was everything actually proved?! But I think he wasnt in his right mind in this period.

Did you ever start to think about Charles Manson? I mean, he must have been going through a tough time.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Dude is an unrepentant rapist, pedophile, and general piece of shit. I haven't seen any of his recent films, although I've heard good things about Ghost Writer. I'll check this out eventually, but my disdain for the man - and Hollywood's response to his madness - kind of makes me take my time.

 

[Salsa]

But oh, he's rich and an artist, and hands out with celebs. He can anal rape children and we can all tell ourselves "Im so awesome because I can separate his WORK from the MAN, like their can possibly somehow be a good way to support an unrepentant child rapist.

I like how you specifically say "separate the work from the man" and then go ahead and make a statement that is exactly the opposite of that.

Im not doing it to support him, i just like his movies, that's all. Is he getting a couple more bucks because of it? sure, what the fuck do i care. Guess what? the only difference it makes, in the end, is that i either see a movie or not.

I can live knowing i paid to see a movie directed by a person who raped a child, even though the movie has NOTHING to do with rape in the slightest, or his personal life for that matter, its a movie, once its done it loses all attachments to the director, its there for you to see. Omg i must be a monster.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

Wow wow, did he drug the child?! I may not know everything about the case but was everything actually proved?! But I think he wasnt in his right mind in this period.

The murders occurred like 7 1/2 years earlier.

As far as his mental state goes, He was well enough to have made four movies, including "Chinatwn," and to have started a sexual relationship with a 15 year old Nastassja Kinski a year prior to the rape.

I don't see why it's so hard for some people to wrap their minds around the fact that the guy is just a fucking pedophile rapist.

 

[Arcblade]

First of all, what I'm about to say doesnt excuse what Polanski did, but when he did what he did, he was in really dark places, I mean his wife was murdered by the crazy Manson, can you imagine in what state you would be?!

Most definitely not anywhere near the place that someone decides to commit premeditated child rape, that's for certain.

Your scenario:

Cop: "Mr. Polanski - your wife has been murdered."

Roman Polanski:

1."OH NO."

2 *goes and acquires a date rape drug*

3. *finds a child*

4. *drugs the child*

5. *rapes and sodomizes the child*

I'm pretty sure these are not the 5 stages of grief.

 

[Zeliard]

Oh, absolutely, they're all assholes too.

It's cute that you're more upset about alleged insults toward your person than the event in question, tho.

Saying someone is part of the, what was that acronym, RPDF? Charming as that is, it's not really conducive to conversation.

I have to imagine you guys, being non-hypocrites, have never seen a Roman Polanski film. Because, after all, that would qualify as watching a Roman Polanski film, and I doubt any of you in question were born well before '77 and saw Chinatown with pure eyes. Unless of course the issue really is him getting money directly from your pocket, in which case it's presumably okay to TIVO, stream, borrow or pirate his films, and we can all wait for this movie's home releases.

Nothing excuses what he did. If it encroaches so much on your viewing of a movie, that's that, but it's rather obnoxious to accuse people of supporting pedophilia or rape simply because they watch one of his movies.

 

[ComputerMKII]

Wow wow, did he drug the child?! I may not know everything about the case but was everything actually proved?! But I think he wasnt in his right mind in this period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski_sexual_abuse_case

By the way, (and I don't mean this as a personal attack against anyone in this thread), I find it strange that so many people on the Internet (not necessarily at NeoGAF) seem to want to boycott Polanski, while I also see many people not having a problem admitting they find nazi uniforms and architecture 'cool', even insisting on how they nazis were bad indeed and on how art and life should be judged on separate grounds.

 

[Expendable.]

Should I start separate thread so people that can separate his work from his life can discuss either/or?

This is such a repetitive conversation after every single Polanski thread.

 

[Noshino]

a defense force for everything. if on GAF say Gaborn, for example, posted a thread about a man drugging and anally and vaginally raping a 13 year old that he lured to his house 99% of all posts would be about how the man should get the death penalty or life in jail.
screw Polanski and anything he ever makes.

I would love to punch the guy but...

The victim, Samantha Geimer, during a television interview on 10 March 2011, blames the media, reporters, the court, and the judge for causing "way more damage to [her] and her family than anything Roman Polanski has ever done." She adds that the media were "really cruel," stating that the judge was using her and a noted celebrity for his own personal gain from the media exposure

She has gotten over it. Instead of helping, people that keep bringing it up are making matters much worse.

 

[Expendable.]

Trying...

...to...

...get...

...back....

....on...

....topic.

 

[computers putin']

it's kinda hard to separate his life from his work considering the very reason he is able to allude punishment is because of the support his work receives.

 

[ComputerMKII]

Food for thought. This man committed crimes and now directly profits from them:

Issei Sagawa (佐川 一政 Sagawa Issei?, born June 11, 1949) is a Japanese man who in 1981 murdered and cannibalized a Dutch woman named Renée Hartevelt. After his release, he became a minor celebrity in Japan and made a living through the public's interest in his crime.

Japanese authorities found it to be legally impossible to hold him, because the French court refused to hand pertinent paper to Japan, claiming that the case was already dropped in France. As a result, Sagawa checked himself out of the mental institution on August 12, 1986, and has been a free man ever since.

Post-release

Sagawa now lives in Tokyo and is a minor celebrity in Japan. He is often invited as a guest speaker and commentator. He has also written restaurant reviews for the Japanese magazine Spa.In 1992, he appeared in Hisayasu Sato's exploitation film Uwakizuma: Chijokuzeme (Unfaithful Wife: Shameful Torture) as a sadosexual voyeur.

Besides books about the murder he committed, Sagawa wrote a commentary book Shonen A in 1997 on the Kobe children's serial killings of 1997, when a 14-year-old referred to in the media as "Boy A" ("Shōnen A") killed and decapitated a child and attacked several others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issei_Sagawa

 

[Zeliard]

I mean, yeah, that is the issue, and the rest is mostly just you trying to put words in my mouth because you feel offended at something I didn't say.

If you can watch his movies if you're not giving him money, then you're obviously capable of separating his work from his personal life and divorcing his movies from it. Which I thought was the controversy here. But apparently we actually all agree, so that's nice.

Edit: Expendable I blame you for this.

 

[Noshino]

sigh

the victim herself has forgiven him, so has her family....

watch this

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/exclusive-roman-polanski-victim-blames-media-13103307

now please let's drop the case, you aren't helping anyone.


Anyway, I kind of love the way Reilly doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the cast....yet...does in an awkward way.

 

[ComputerMKII]

it's kinda hard to separate his life from his work considering the very reason he is able to allude punishment is because of the support his work receives.

As I said earlier, this is plain wrong. It's in French law, that France will not hand its own citizens to another country's judicial system. As for the extradition process from Switzerland, it was cancelled because the United States have refused to give Switzerland a required document.

 

[Ratrat]

Food for thought. This man committed crimes and now directly profits from them:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issei_Sagawa

This is often brought up but the celebrity thing is sickeningly overstated.

 

[ComputerMKII]

sigh

the victim herself has forgiven him, so has her family....

watch this

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/exclusive-roman-polanski-victim-blames-media-13103307

now please let's drop the case, you aren't helping anyone.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the US judicial system (especially when it's about serious crimes) prosecute on behalf of society, or the People or whatever, instead of the victim, so that the victim's wishes to drop the case are not taken into account?

 

[Pristine_Condition]

Should I start separate thread so people that can separate his work from his life can discuss either/or?

This is such a repetitive conversation after every single Polanski thread.

Yeah. You're right. God, this thread is so unfair to Polanski. I'm sure the child rapist deserves a thread devoted to discussing him without all the nasty child raping part.

Here's some suggestions for other threads on GAF:

-Adolph Hitler's Awesome Autobahn (No Holocaust Talk Please!)

-Was Chris Benoit the Greatest Wrestler of All Time? (no murder talk allowed)

-OJ Simpson's Greatest Touchdowns (YouTube Links Here!)

-The Art and Culture of The American Southern States (1780-1860) Appreciation Thread

 

[brianjones]

wow you guys comparing him to hitler are really trivializing the holocaust

isnt there something in member etiquette about derailing threads

 

[ComputerMKII]

Yeah. You're right. God, this thread is so unfair to Polanski. I'm sure the child rapist deserves a thread devoted to discussing him without all the nasty child raping part.

Here's some suggestions for other threads on GAF:

-Adolph Hitler's Awesome Autobahn (No Holocaust Talk Please!)

-Was Chris Benoit the Greatest Wrestler of All Time? (no murder talk allowed)

-OJ Simpson's Greatest Touchdowns (YouTube Links Here!)

-The Art and Culture of The American Southern States (1780-1860) Appreciation Thread

I agree with you (assuming you were being sarcastic). Trying to discuss the work itself is a lost cause. I don't see such threads lasting more than a few posts before derailing again. Might as well keep it in one thread, and those who actually want to discuss the movie can still do so.

wow you guys comparing him to hitler are really trivializing the holocaust

That's ironic considering Polanski's parents and sister were sent to concentration camps (his mother died in Auschwitz).

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

First of all, what I'm about to say doesnt excuse what Polanski did, but when he did what he did, he was in really dark places, I mean his wife was murdered by the crazy Manson, can you imagine in what state you would be?!

his wife was murdered many years before. I don't see how you go from grief to rape but that's just me. and even if he was in a "dark" place he needed to be put in another place which was jail.

 

[Expendable.]

Expendable I blame you for this.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

wow you guys comparing him to hitler are really trivializing the holocaust

isnt there something in member etiquette about derailing threads

I didn't compare him to Hitler, dummy.

I used it as an example of threads that wouldn't fly that would be similar. So I was clearly talking about THREAD SUBJECTS, not people.

 

[computers putin']

As I said earlier, this is plain wrong. It's in French law, that France will not hand its own citizens to another country's judicial system. As for the extradition process from Switzerland, it was cancelled because the United States have refused to give Switzerland a required document.

Ah, if true I retract my statement.

 

[Hellion]

Hey did you guys know Roman Polanski violently raped a little girl, vaginally and anally and then fled from justice? And lived a life of celebrity and relative luxury? Because he did. So his art can fuck off.

wish there was a video of polanski getting punched in face in public?

And every actor hes worked with post rape can fuck off.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

I would love to punch the guy but...



She has gotten over it. Instead of helping, people that keep bringing it up are making matters much worse.

yes but I want to see the courts work properly. and in this case it means handing a verdict for a crime committed.

 

[Neuromancer]

Hey did you guys know Roman Polanski violently raped a little girl, vaginally and anally and then fled from justice? And lived a life of celebrity and relative luxury? Because he did. So his art can fuck off.

I'm with you on this one. Fuck this guy.

 

[ghostmind]

Sorry, but I am not going to separate his works from his actions.

As for the actors who support him - Hollywood is an incestuous elitist group who protects its own. I might as well give up movies as a whole if I were to extend my ban to anyone associated with him. Now, if any of them decide to become a pedophile/rapist themselves, and flee in cowardice instead of answering for their crimes, then I will no longer support them either.

 

[THE-Pink-Dagger]

The murders occurred like 7 1/2 years earlier.

As far as his mental state goes, He was well enough to have made four movies, including "Chinatwn," and to have started a sexual relationship with a 15 year old Nastassja Kinski a year prior to the rape.

I don't see why it's so hard for some people to wrap their minds around the fact that the guy is just a fucking pedophile rapist.

Yeah I just saw that, so yeah, no excuse even though we'll never truly know what exactly happened that day.

 

[ComputerMKII]

I have a question for everyone. Since Polanski will turn 78 in a few days, and chanses are he won't live much longer, will you watch his movies after he dies, or even pay for it?

 

[brianjones]

edit: nevermind i read that wrong

 

[ComputerMKII]

i fail to see your point

I have none, it's just a question.

 

[Noshino]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the US judicial system (especially when it's about serious crimes) prosecute on behalf of society, or the People or whatever, instead of the victim, so that the victim's wishes to drop the case are not taken into account?

I agree, but in this case the lawsuit is actually causing damage to the victim, her parents, and her children as well.

Oh, and on top of that, the lawsuit was royally fucked up, the victim (and other parties) claim that the judge and DA were looking for personal gain given the media attention.


Like I said, as much as I would want to punch the guy for taking advantage of a child, I can't keep bringing up this case when so much shit has gone wrong with it. Sorry but bringing up this case does more harm than good.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

I have a question for everyone. Since Polanski will turn 78 in a few days, and chanses are he won't live much longer, will you watch his movies after he dies, or even pay for it?

no. what kind of question is that?!