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Russian ambassador Andrey Karlov assassinated in Ankara
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Funky Papa
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Well. Here come the conspiracies.
Electric Eye
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That looks eerily like the the No Russian mission. Fucking crazy.Higher quality picture
Bodyguard on the right is apparently the shooter
JohnTinker
Limbaugh Parrot
This the ambassador right before the shooting, and the assailant.
Chezzymann
Member
I always wanted a winter here in Houston. Guess nuclear winter will have to do.
shinobi602
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These images are crazy, holy shit.
He looks like he's two dimensional in this photo.
If in some crazy way this tied back to the Turkish government, which I don't believe it will, and it did result in a war between Turkey and Russia, wouldn't NATO not be obligated to get involved? I thought the charter stated that the NATO member couldn't be the one to start things.
SliceSabre
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That is some scary shit right there.
Like fucking why? What do you hope to achieve by killing an ambassador!?
Netherscourge
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This is the type of shit that can be taken as an act of war to people like Putin and Trump. People who jump to conclusions and are looking for a fight.
Even if it was a lone-wolf psycho-fuck with their own personal agenda.
Even if it was a lone-wolf psycho-fuck with their own personal agenda.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Not really sure how that works, Turkey being a powerplayer in the region and a NATO member with some serious beef against Assad.
We aren't talking about San Marino here.
RustyNails
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I thought Erdogan said Friendship with Obama ended, Putin is best friend now just a few weeks ago. I doubt he will do anything drastic.
bonesmccoy
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Before the 'tut, tut, Russia' stuff gets too loud and begins to echo, remember that shit like this looks really bad on Turkey. Being unable to protect foreign diplomats is a serious, serious problem.
n00bsauce87
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This may have some sort of copycat effect. I could be wrong, but who is to say this won't enable others.
Phantast2k
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LegendofJoe
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The killer made what he hoped to achieve clear - revenge for Aleppo.
don't think so. Europe is a bit of a powder keg because of the refugee crisis but absolutely no one but the most far-right knuckleheads would even consider a war with anyone, really. Turkey doesn't want a war. Russia's reaction remains to be seen, but I strongly doubt that they would take military actions against a freaking NATO member state because one of their ambassadors was assassinated by a Assad-opponent
The index finger...
well bringing a security detail didn't help him here
you think turkish government sanctioned this ?
lone nutjob killed an ambassador, if russia attacks turkey for this nato will intervene
Article 5 can be interpreted a variety of ways. Regardless, I don't think there will be a military response. Just my guess.
The problem is that Turkey's internal stabilities have reached this level. The rising tide of Islamo-nationalism -- stoked often by Erdogan -- cannot exist in parallel with policies and alliances that are nominally Western, nor can it abide the rising Kurdish nationalism in Turkey's southeast. Erdogan's Turkey is the kind of place that seems ascendant right up until it implodes.
No. Read my post again.
Well if you're going to be an assassin might as well practice some trigger discipline. Wouldn't be good if you went and assassinated the wrong guy.
It's Russia involvement in Syria that's spilled into surrounding areas, not sure why your pointing the finger at Turkey. I mean, we in the West are being told similar narrative regarding Assad and Russia.
I'm going to say the opposite, they should not have killed the guy. Disarm/disable/injure him but keep him alive for Q&A.
We live in some crazy times technologically, those pics are immediately haunting.
He represents Russia and sometimes that's all that matters. No different than terrorists attacking embassies.
VIDEO: http://nos.nl/video/2149213-russische-ambassadeur-neergeschoten.html
He yells Allahuakbar and other Arabic words first. Then "Don't forget Aleppo, don't forget Syria. You won't taste safety while Aleppo isn't in safe. Only death could apart me from here. Every people who has a part on that cruelty will explain that one by one." as a Turkish.
I think he is ISIS supporter. I mean, look at that sentence: "You won't taste safety while Aleppo isn't in safe"
He yells Allahuakbar and other Arabic words first. Then "Don't forget Aleppo, don't forget Syria. You won't taste safety while Aleppo isn't in safe. Only death could apart me from here. Every people who has a part on that cruelty will explain that one by one." as a Turkish.
I think he is ISIS supporter. I mean, look at that sentence: "You won't taste safety while Aleppo isn't in safe"
andythinkpad
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Do you not remember the explosion that killed a bunch of Turkey air force pilots? It's in the same year.
People have such short memories.
RustyNails
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Russia has razed East Aleppo to the ground. There was a video recently out of East Aleppo where it showed a doctor performing surgery on a child without anaesthetic because he did not have any, and the Turkish newscaster broke down and cried on air.
Syria is their neighbor and the things going on there has affected Turks deeply. Images coming out of Syria have shook the Turks to core. But shooting an ambassador is criminal. The shooter will be celebrated as a martyr in some circles.
George Washington
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Very disturbing
Phantast2k
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The ambassador has died: https://twitter.com/MoscowTimes/status/810892860350431233
GTP_Daverytimes
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Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
This isn't gonna start a war people, stay reasonable. Comparing this to WW1 is ludicrous
What I was going to say. Whether it's said publicly by Russia or not, this will be troubling for them. This is a pretty large screw up by Turkey and its authorities. It's in both of these country's interests to not get hostile toward one another, and they've been actively healing relations, but this doesn't help.
You could argue this is bigger than the Russian jet being shot down, but that doesn't necessarily mean the reaction will be harsher in this incident. We'll see.
No, GAF, this doesn't mean WWIII. Still, interesting times.
SyenceLabb
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Looks like the guy was shouting. Any word on what he was saying?
Unreal.
Bitch Pudding
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What's with the finger? It's where it belongs if you carry a gun without intending to shoot within the next seconds.
The finger pointed to the sky that's a sign I've seen jihadists make in videos (islamists also use it when they're protesting and shit)
So basically this guy had a radical as a bodyguard ?
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