bonesmccoy
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It seems like it is going to be severe for Turkey and the anti-Assad groups still fighting in Syria.
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Russian ambassador Andrey Karlov assassinated in Ankara
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It seems like it is going to be severe for Turkey and the anti-Assad groups still fighting in Syria.
it will probably feel like it if you are vulnerable enough to be affected by whatever form the retaliation takes place.
He's holding a gun. Dont think that makes for an easy arrest
US would be involved.
Captain Zyrain
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That video was something else.
My lord.
My lord.
GTP_Daverytimes
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Russia would win any war against turkey though not without being bloodied, and i doubt they would fight to occupy Turkey.
michaelius
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Russia will probably retaliate against rebels in Syria now with really awful bombings
If Russia attacks and NATO doesn't defend Turkey, NATO will be basically be proven to be a farce.
Dubbedinenglish
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Turkey has a very well funded and capable military.
This won't be war, maybe more tensions between Russia/Turkey but there shouldn't be much more. Considering their actions in Syria, I'm really not surprised Russians would be more targeted for terror attacks.
EDIT: The recent "gulen" purges by Turkey probably have reduced capability though.
TheCochese
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Read the whole thread, Christ Above.
Charles Brandon
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If you watch the video he's gesticulating while he rants about something
Um, nope. Russia into Turkey is not something either side would want to test, but given they don't even share a land border I absolutely don't think Russia automatically wins any war. I mean, a straight up war of occupation would be farcical, there isn't a country on the planet that could do that.
Regulus Tera
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This is like the worst of times for this to happen
Russia will double down on Assad, Erdogan will intensify the crackdown on opposition with more applause by the people.
Europe will watch and continue to back Erdogan because they are afraid of refugees, USA will fail with bombs and diplomacy, terrorists will gain more support. In the future, USA under Trump will move more towards Russia, leaving a leaderless Europe even more alone.
Might be wrong.
Europe will watch and continue to back Erdogan because they are afraid of refugees, USA will fail with bombs and diplomacy, terrorists will gain more support. In the future, USA under Trump will move more towards Russia, leaving a leaderless Europe even more alone.
Might be wrong.
And_Gignac
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Russia won't go to war against Turkey because of this lmao what the fuck. Absurd.
"Somewhat joking" can be hard to detect on the internet, especially when several people sincerely believe things similar to what you said.
Turkey has two obvious things of interest to Russia: Energy pipelines and access to the Mediterranean (from Sevastopol).
I could see Russia fully back the Kurds and help them secede to fuck with Turkey before doing anything huge like declaring all out war.
you're being trolled
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Why would this lead to more tensions between Russia and Turkey? The is no reason to think so, like Turkey said this is an attack on Turkey-Russia relations.
They have nukes tho
LegendofJoe
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If people want to worry about something they should start worrying about the stability of Turkey. If Erdogan turns his full attention to the Kurdish community there could be another civil war in the region (just as the one in Syria is ending). The people living there are in hell, my heart aches for them.
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GTP_Daverytimes
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In the last 7 wars Rusia has fought against Turkey it has won all the ones that Turkey fought alone in (5 of the 7), it lost the Crimean war which turkey was aligned with a host of other nations and the other was indecisive.
There is going to be an even more severe clampdown by Erdogan against civil liberties and Russia are going to be absolutely incensed and increase their support of Assad. Apparently the attacker said this was for Aleppo. Either way it will be innocent people who suffer as usual.
Huw_Dawson
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Hard to say what will happen now. I'd expect Russia to further solidify their support for Assad, and probably a weakening of NATO support for anti-Assad forces. If this is blamed on/claimed by one of the Syrian groups that the West is backing, then it'll also reflect exceptionally poorly on the US at a very bad time.
A Serious Man
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I look forward to Trump's level-headed and considerate response.
Netherscourge
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This whole thing must have been planned out for weeks or maybe even months.
The assassination, the posted guard who did it and the fact they timed it to be on live TV during this visit is way-too coordinated for a random lone-wolf type of isolated incident.
IMO anyway. Maybe security is total shit in Turkey and this type of political killing CAN be pulled off with relative ease? But this seems way way too calculated to me.
I do think the military response if something happened to Turkey would be more severe under Obama than Trump but Putin obviously wouldn't just wait over a month to do something. Not to mention an invasion of a well armed and funded military is not some trivial thing to do and likely won't happen over some random incident involving some random ambassador.
RustyNails
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I dont think the guy is ISIS supporter. There is no plugging of the caliphate or other nonsense.
Considering the recent relations between Turkey and Russia I would say that actually the opposite should be true. You don't send some weak people to face the "enemy".
This is what I look forward to the most.
A Kurdish state with a mediterranean port city would negate at least one of those advantages.
d00d3n
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Look forward to it on twitter.
Not exactly true. It's still the murder of a foreign diplomat so there is going to be a lot of tension as a result. The two nations were well on their way to sort of mending fences and this will almost certainly set it back.
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