This is an interesting point. The Flash movie shouldn't be anything like that crappy tv show. I have no idea what it could be tho. To be honest, I don't even want to watch a Flash movie if it isn't some off the wall, batshit crazy thing. That's how I feel right now anyway. It could change after JL comes out.
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Saga of the DCEU continues - The Flash getting page-one rewrite (Variety)
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CocaMantis
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Don't know if you're serious or not but count me in for this. If, and this is a big-ass if they decide that it's time to start from scratch and reboot the whole thing, Flashpoint it's the best way to do it because it wouldn't feel like a reboot (like Spider-Man), it would be like a new piece on the DCEU but this motherfucker will be erasing everything and give a nice and clean slate (well maybe not so clean since their reputation but still).
And I'm pretty sure Flashpoint it's in their plans. A few months ago they said that the "dream" sequence on BvS it's not a dream, that actually happened aka Barry went back in time to warned Bruce. But who the fuck knows? These individuals don't seem sure about anything.
PhoncipleBone
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Without a doubt. Gonna set the comic book movie bar for the year.
might be the first DC movie since Batman Forever I see in theaters
Must be a dope gig if it was Star Wars.
Imagine having writing the opening crawl on your resume, whew
PhoncipleBone
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Dash_Riprock
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In a year with Avengers Infinity War, that will be tough.
Not a big fan of Nolan's Batman?
Shit i did see Batman Begins in theaters, that day was hazy because i had like 4 shots of everclear before seeing the movie
Yeah! Batman is just a guy who fights crime and refuses to kill people and they... oh wait.. ah crap.
At this point I don't think we need to ask why WB is screwing up so hard lol.
kunonabi
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I have no interest in Mamoa as Aquaman. I suffered through Conan and that was more than enough for me.
The Conan Kid was great, should have been the whole movie
Woah coming in with some very false posts
There is legitimately no way the Flash movie will be better than the TV show. Flash season 1 is the GOAT.
Forsaken82
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maybe this is the proof that they are Flashpointing the DCEU to fix all the problems and start fresh without having to recast and hard reboot.
I wonder if they would be able to pull off the sheer monstrosity of the Reverse Flash in the movie. Few DCTV villains are as awesome as that guy.
Frozenprince
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I would even take Bart at this point.
illmatic22
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Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Batman with guns sign me up!
One might say that's exactly what a page one rewrite is for.
This. This universe is already tainted with all the crapy writing, directors, and even actors.
Frozenprince
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I mean for fucks sake you have arguably the DEFINITIVE Flash writer headed your studio creatively and you still can't make this shit work with a touch up?
Like, Johns is RIGHT THERE.
Like, Johns is RIGHT THERE.
Dash_Riprock
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Either his hands are tied or he's still beholden to the idiot execs above him.
Sweeney Tom
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This is partly why I think if anything we're getting told the polite version of the "DCCU is fucked" situation
Frozenprince
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I just don't get it. You have an already in universe established Barry Allen with a rogues gallery and he doesn't even need to pretend he's trying to write Wally. Everything is right there for it to work.
Out of all the DCEU movies, THIS should be by far the easiest one to do well and get asses in seats with good critical reception and word of mouth.
The Silver
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I just want a Crisis movie if they reboot, I need Superboy Prime breaking the 4th wall and punching the screen somehow bringing back Robin.
Bobby Roberts
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What they originally had probably worked just fine. What they had rewritten probably worked okay, too.
Flash likely isn't the problem at all.
It's the universe Flash is attached to.
So if this universe brickwalls in November, then the "page one rewrite" becomes an abandoned project. If the universe manages to clear BvS's take, this "page one rewrite" ends up being a revision of what they already had and a director finally gets announced.
Flash on CW too solid. Definitely do not believe it be easy to pull off.
My god.. An absolute shit show if true.
Critics are way too kind to the DCCU movies.
Purple Cheeto
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Nolan's Batman in Name Only.
Dash_Riprock
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Frozenprince
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You're probably right. My "soft reboot" for phase 2 gets less and less likely by the day it seems.
For as much shit as it gets, Marvel's lesson that they learned in streamlining how the studio and creative teams work together should be the standard. You don't need to "assembly line" movies. But you sure as shit need a process that's not, imo, basically the culmination of how Hollywood has farmed out these fucked up blockbuster franchises for decades.
WB has no idea what they are doing creatively and it's painfully obvious at this point that WAY too many hands are in the jar to have any of this shit be successful. Especially egregious is the fact that the blueprint for making this work already exists IN HOUSE in their animation side.
So the Flash is literally stuck between universes. That is strangely and beautifly poetic
ZackieChan
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He's too skinny now. He'd never be as big as GOATfleck or even himself as The Comedian.
They can't really just reset the universe with a Flash movie because it would be a massive mess when the next movie comes out and the audience is a mix of people who have and who haven't seen The Flash.
I'm in two minds about whether they should reboot or not, but even if they do so, I can't see an elegant way to do it other than "Spend at least five years not putting out any DC movies", and I cannot see WB execs going for that at all.
I'm in two minds about whether they should reboot or not, but even if they do so, I can't see an elegant way to do it other than "Spend at least five years not putting out any DC movies", and I cannot see WB execs going for that at all.
bigly
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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WB needs a visionary leading DCU.
DC are held to a higher standard than Marvel. The way people trip over themselves to highlight plot holes for shit that's explained in the movies is truly fascinating. But anyhow, regarding the topic of this thread, it's disappointing they can't get their shit together with the Flash.
PhoncipleBone
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I think right now many are holding DC to a much lower standard, and they still can't meet that.
Just waiting for them to make an average film.
Dash_Riprock
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That's bullshit and you know it. Just stick to defending the Martha scene in BvS with 10,000 word essays.
Frozenprince
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Discotheque
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BvS is the most interesting a comic cinematic universe can get tbh. I understand why it was critically maligned though. I'm not gonna spout out its a bias or whatever. Snyder is barely anybody's cup of tea.
they should scrap these dceu plans. everybody wants them to get it all in line and have it under control (good luck) and what..get another freaking mcu. no thanks y'all. one is more than enough at this point. throw it in the trash and just make separate or very loosely tied continuities. give snyder his injustice timeline he so desperately wants to go forward with. make batman its own thing. keep suicide squad and ayer's future plans for those rogues the fuck away from batman's universe.
make a separate justice league for all i care. this interconnected comic movie stuff is overrated, the concept stopped being novel after the first avengers. like how many times do we have to see hawkeye's lame ass in other movies, and they insist on making all the films have a familiar tone because they don't want to be too jarring to audiences and keep it a consistent brand. and it has just made the movies feel more underwhelming every year. and now they wanna do the DC equivalent but even worse by throwing in Harley Quinn I'm sure. could you imagine that. being subjected to Suicide Squad's Harley Quinn in multiple unrelated films plz no.
of course my plan also sounds like a terrible mess but I think it would allow for more properties like the Nolan and Raimi movies to shine through. Logan looks to be taking the right approach, but they also have the benefit of being able to be so far ahead of the xmen-timeline in that movie as well.
they should scrap these dceu plans. everybody wants them to get it all in line and have it under control (good luck) and what..get another freaking mcu. no thanks y'all. one is more than enough at this point. throw it in the trash and just make separate or very loosely tied continuities. give snyder his injustice timeline he so desperately wants to go forward with. make batman its own thing. keep suicide squad and ayer's future plans for those rogues the fuck away from batman's universe.
make a separate justice league for all i care. this interconnected comic movie stuff is overrated, the concept stopped being novel after the first avengers. like how many times do we have to see hawkeye's lame ass in other movies, and they insist on making all the films have a familiar tone because they don't want to be too jarring to audiences and keep it a consistent brand. and it has just made the movies feel more underwhelming every year. and now they wanna do the DC equivalent but even worse by throwing in Harley Quinn I'm sure. could you imagine that. being subjected to Suicide Squad's Harley Quinn in multiple unrelated films plz no.
of course my plan also sounds like a terrible mess but I think it would allow for more properties like the Nolan and Raimi movies to shine through. Logan looks to be taking the right approach, but they also have the benefit of being able to be so far ahead of the xmen-timeline in that movie as well.
lol. It seems so long ago. I just hope that in another 3 years we won't be looking back and saying "Wow remember the golden days when DC gave us good movies like Man of Steel?".
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Well, that's not surprising. The Flash has so much potential for a movie, I hope the director they eventually get will be more than just a yes man.
Season one of the tv show managed to nail almost every aspect of the character but the movie won't have nearly enough time to compete so they need to differentiate themselves, especially in the villain department. The Reverse Flash was awesome in the show because of the slow build-up and the revelations regarding Harrison Wells.
A fun way to go about it would be to seemingly kill Barry at the end of Justice League by having him be absorbed by the speed force after defeating a bad guy, similar to what happened in the JL animated series. Then his solo film could be about him travelling the multiverse, Sliders style, trying to find his way back home. You'd get a very different kind of superhero movie.
But who am I kidding, Brett Ratner is probably gonna end up directing this thing anyway.
Season one of the tv show managed to nail almost every aspect of the character but the movie won't have nearly enough time to compete so they need to differentiate themselves, especially in the villain department. The Reverse Flash was awesome in the show because of the slow build-up and the revelations regarding Harrison Wells.
A fun way to go about it would be to seemingly kill Barry at the end of Justice League by having him be absorbed by the speed force after defeating a bad guy, similar to what happened in the JL animated series. Then his solo film could be about him travelling the multiverse, Sliders style, trying to find his way back home. You'd get a very different kind of superhero movie.
But who am I kidding, Brett Ratner is probably gonna end up directing this thing anyway.
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