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Sarah Palin's Yahoo! email account hacked and published

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SetUhatU said:
I appreciate your argument and the hysteria with which you present it. Let's look closer at your links:

Link 1: "i do not have permission to view page" nice gaf.

It's in the forum archive, I forget if juniors can view that. Apologies.

SetUhatU said:
Link 2: The Bush Doctrine - something that is ambiguously defined at best. You can see a smug Gibson nearly jump out of his seat with glee in this "gotcha" moment. This is not a good illustration of incompetence unless you are pointing that finger at Gibson for his inability to ask a question as a responsible journalist.

It is not ambiguous in the least. The Bush doctrine is an extremely clearly defined set of foreign ideologies which has set the foundation for much of what Bush has done during his presidency. This would be bad enough if it was the Democratic candidate making this mistake; that it is the candidate of the very party whose leader pushed it is catastrophically incompetent.

SetUhatU said:
Link 3: What does the VP do? Good question? To take this as Palin having no comprehension of what the vice president does because she lacks brain power is ridiculous. Desperation much?

Good...question? So I am to believe you think that a serious candidate for vice president should, mere weeks before being selected, be so uninformed about the position she is about to get that she needs to be filled in? This isn't remedial Politics 101. This is the heart beat away from the president, even more important when you are McCain's age.

SetUhatU said:
Link 4: I don't understand your point.

I am suggesting that her experience, or lack of it, is as relevant to me as Obama's "lack of experience."

SetUhatU said:
Link 5: Transferring Colleges? Are you serious? What does this have to do with anything? Desperaaaaaaation.

The fact that Palin is a completely undistinguished and mediocre student who cannot even muster the gusto to perform well re: Journalism major is a pretty big contrast to Obama, whom you were suggesting was similarly incompetent. As Obama is a brilliant student and fiercely intelligent and did what he did with the Harvard Law Review, something most students in the nation can only dream of.

This is about leading by example, vs. leading by faith.

SetUhatU said:
Link 8: Community Organizer: Hilarious little jab @ the convention. This would hurt any prima donna.

Hilarious, provided you don't realize exactly how pivotal community organizers are in making people's neighborhoods livable. This is akin to punching Jesus Christ and Martin Luther King in the balls, at the same time. Hilarious only if you are dishonorable, as Palin is.

SetUhatU said:
Link 10: Ads - I hate these on both sides. You overstate this though.

Obama has never once released an ad with anything near the disgusting implications of the McCain ad. It is the one thing that has not only made me violently anti-McCain, but violently anti-McCain supporters. With an ad like that, if you're among the numbered who defends it I can only imagine the type of person you actually are.

This is a general "you", I don't know what you feel about the ad specifically.

SetUhatU said:
Link 11: Many of us share his stance on the right to life.

Those "many" are still batshit insane.

SetUhatU said:
Re: Obamas brilliant campaign. You are right, it is incredible that he was able to defeat the Clinton machine. Obama is a great speaker, very motivating and inspirational. However, as the polls reflect, there is a large traditional chuck of America that does not want to socialize our nation.

Yes instead we should be blubbering isolationists with a poor standing in the world whose ability to speak with authority is significantly diminished every day.

Good show, good show.
 
MThanded said:
Are you king slanders apprentice?
You have to be kidding about the Bush doctrine link. She should know what the bush doctrine was. He just asked the question. If she answered it right there would have been no problem. I forgot about the media being on big librul spin machine though.

Speaking of which - I have read dozens of stories today about some tanning bed that was purchased in Alaska a few years ago. How in the world is that a more important story than this? Obama pushing for Iraq to delay a withdrawal agreement until after the election. Insane!
 
Amir0x said:
It's in the forum archive, I forget if juniors can view that. Apologies.



It is not ambiguous in the least. The Bush doctrine is an extremely clearly defined set of foreign ideologies which has set the foundation for much of what Bush has done during his presidency. This would be bad enough if it was the Democratic candidate making this mistake; that it is the candidate of the very party whose leader pushed it is catastrophically incompetent.



Good...question? So I am to believe you think that a serious candidate for vice president should, mere weeks before being selected, be so uninformed about the position she is about to get that she needs to be filled in? This isn't remedial Politics 101. This is the heart beat away from the president, even more important when you are McCain's age.



I am suggesting that her experience, or lack of it, is as relevant to me as Obama's "lack of experience."



The fact that Palin is a completely undistinguished and mediocre student who cannot even muster the gusto to perform well re: Journalism major is a pretty big contrast to Obama, whom you were suggesting was similarly incompetent. As Obama is a brilliant student and fiercely intelligent and did what he did with the Harvard Law Review, something most students in the nation can only dream of.

This is about leading by example, vs. leading by faith.



Hilarious, provided you don't realize exactly how pivotal community organizers are in making people's neighborhoods livable. This is akin to punching Jesus Christ and Martin Luther King in the balls, at the same time. Hilarious only if you are dishonorable, as Palin is.



Obama has never once released an ad with anything near the disgusting implications of the McCain ad. It is the one thing that has not only made me violently anti-McCain, but violently anti-McCain supporters. With an ad like that, if you're among the numbered who defends it I can only imagine the type of person you actually are.

This is a general "you", I don't know what you feel about the ad specifically.



Those "many" are still batshit insane.



Yes instead we should be blubbering isolationists with a poor standing in the world whose ability to speak with authority is significantly diminished every day.

Good show, good show.

Back to work I go - fun stuff man. Have fun voting.
 
A journalist getting something wrong alongside the candidate does not somehow make the definition less clear.

It means they need to educate themselves.
 
Also, I disagree with the comparison of community organizers to Jesus Christ, while at the same time disparaging the experience of being Mayor and Governor.


Amir0x: Oh please. If I asked you that question a couple of weeks ago you'd be running to Wikipedia faster than I could hit f5. Or you'd say the same thing as Gibson.
 
I have it on foxnews and the blonde bitch said the vote on what you think about palin's hacked email jumped up 25000 within a minute. She said they think someone was hacking the poll on the website.... LOL i thought it was fucking hilarious:lol
 
APF said:
Also, I disagree with the comparison of community organizers to Jesus Christ, while at the same time disparaging the experience of being Mayor and Governor.


Amir0x: Oh please. If I asked you that question a couple of weeks ago you'd be running to Wikipedia faster than I could hit f5. Or you'd say the same thing as Gibson.
Amirox is not running for VP nor attempting to ask anyone else that question....
 
APF said:
Also, I disagree with the comparison of community organizers to Jesus Christ, while at the same time disparaging the experience of being Mayor and Governor.

I am not disparaging the experience at all. I have not said one negative thing about her time as Mayor or Governor, only that her tenure and scope of experience is tiny. Same as Obama's. Which, as I also noted, is not an issue for me. "Lack of experience" has never been an issue to me, it is only a phenomenal chance to poke holes in the foremost argument of the McCain camp for the past 4 months.

There is no specific experience that can actually train someone to be president, whether you get that executive position at some point or not.

APF said:
Amir0x: Oh please. If I asked you that question a couple of weeks ago you'd be running to Wikipedia faster than I could hit f5. Or you'd say the same thing as Gibson.

Well now that we're done with the part where you make shit up with your psychic abilities, i hope we can continue.
 
MThanded said:
How nice of you. Good time to leave.
What's the point? There were so many blanket statements in that last response that it is useless to go forward with the debate. Besides, I understand that different people have different priorities on issues and these same people have varying degrees of understanding the best methods for tackling said issues. When all is said and done the responsible voter will look beyond all of this and choose the candidate that best fits their views. The time I invest in responding to videogamers online can be better spent...like chatting about how great LBP will be - now there's something we can all agree on.
 
The funniest part about the whole Bush Doctrine thing is that there is a transcript from 2002 I believe, where Gibson and a couple others are commenting on a State of the Union speech Bush had just given and Gibson lays out an entirely different definition of it then than he gave in the Palin interview :lol

Guys asks a very vague question about a term with 7 different meanings and she responds asking for clarity and somehow it means she's clueless. When the guy asking the question himself doesn't know what it is. Amazing. Even better was how all the Obama people on the internets were suddely experts on the Bush Doctrine though :lol
 
Executive experience and leadership qualities are both important necessities for qualification to be president, but I think a lot of people here in this thread are forgetting about the massive executive department bureaucracy that surrounds the presidency.

These candidates won't be making decisions based solely on their own experience and knowledge, they'll have a substantial amount of information and advice at their disposal each and every day. The ability to lead and to make sound, rational choices with this information provided is what I look for in a president. Experience is an important quality for a president, but it isn't anywhere near as important as leadership and intelligence are.
 
APF said:

Again, not disparaging it at all. I specifically linked to the image with the words "not because of her lack of experience". The image simply illustrated what her "experience" was most of the time, in a funny fashion.


APF said:
What is it then, without looking it up?

In contrast, what is the Powell Doctrine? Again without looking it up.

Recite one of Rumsfeld's Rules, same constraint.

Well now how will I prove I didn't look at wikipedia?

Bush Doctrine: countries that hide terrorists are treated as threats and preemptive attacks to take out perceived "future threats", with democracy building thrown in. My simple explanation.

Powell's Doctine is just a series of guidelines that he believes must be met before using our military.

Not sure about Rumsfeld's Rules though, so you have my honesty.
 
Amir0x vs. APF!

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Amir0x said:
Good...question? So I am to believe you think that a serious candidate for vice president should, mere weeks before being selected, be so uninformed about the position she is about to get that she needs to be filled in? This isn't remedial Politics 101. This is the heart beat away from the president, even more important when you are McCain's age.

Well, I doubt the CIA let's everyone in on it's little secrets the moment you "apply". You shouldn't put that much confidence behind preparation. It's nice, but not necessarily required. The skill set is more important. McCain thinks she is the perfect candidate, supposedly. She must have something in her that makes him think she can pull it off. Either that, or she really is just a political tool.

Amir0x said:
Obama has never once released an ad with anything near the disgusting implications of the McCain ad. It is the one thing that has not only made me violently anti-McCain, but violently anti-McCain supporters. With an ad like that, if you're among the numbered who defends it I can only imagine the type of person you actually are.

You'd have to be pretty dense to believe McCain is the only one throwing the punches. I'm equally annoyed by both of the ad campaigns. They're full of sh!t, and hardly make you want to "believe" in either of the candidates. Imagine how nasty it feels to be told the candidate you support will just ensure eight more years of hell. That's pretty low to me. ;)

Bumblebeetuna said:
The funniest part about the whole Bush Doctrine thing is that there is a transcript from 2002 I believe, where Gibson and a couple others are commenting on a State of the Union speech Bush had just given and Gibson lays out an entirely different definition of it then than he gave in the Palin interview :lol

Guys asks a very vague question about a term with 7 different meanings and she responds asking for clarity and somehow it means she's clueless. When the guy asking the question himself doesn't know what it is. Amazing. Even better was how all the Obama people on the internets were suddely experts on the Bush Doctrine though :lol

:lol I couldn't believe myself when a reporter repeatedly asked her a question that she already gave an answer for. They're just trying to get what they want to hear. What they want the American public to hear. Depending on the bias, it can be quite excruciating. Just one of the reasons I have never enjoyed politics.
 
Basch said:
Well, I doubt the CIA let's everyone in on it's little secrets the moment you "apply". You shouldn't put that much confidence behind preparation. It's nice, but not necessarily required. The skill set is more important. McCain thinks she is the perfect candidate, supposedly. She must have something in her that makes him think she can pull it off. Either that, or she really is just a political tool.

Well I guess if you're going to take someone for such a powerful position, it really doesn't matter what you do if that's the standard. You should have SOME knowledge about the position.

And yeah, I do believe she is a political tool. But in a far more cynical way than Biden is.

Basch said:
You'd have to be pretty dense to believe McCain is the only one throwing the punches. I'm equally annoyed by both of the ad campaigns. They're full of sh!t, and hardly make you want to "believe" in either or. Imagine how nasty it feels to be told the candidate you support will just ensure eight more years of hell. That's pretty low to me. ;)

Who said he's the only one throwing punches? They both do, they both throw out policy barbs that are misleading and often straight up untrue.

Only one, however, has released an ad implying anything remotely as sinister as that McCain ad. As I said in the other thread, my knowledge of political ads only goes so far but I'm fairly certain that this is one of the darkest ads in a long, long, LONG time
 
Amir0x said:
Only one, however, has released an ad implying anything remotely as sinister as that McCain ad. As I said in the other thread, my knowledge of political ads only goes so far but I'm fairly certain that this is one of the darkest ads in a long, long, LONG time

Out of curiosity what ad are you talking about?
 
Amir0x said:
There is no specific experience that can actually train someone to be president, whether you get that executive position at some point or not.
While there are certainly parts that will have to be learned on the job, I'd disagree with the general sentiment of that comment.

The role of President has some pretty obviously similar executive position; governor, CEO, general, even some mayoral positions (NYC, LA, Chicago, maybe a few others.) A good leader in any of those position, with 5-10 years experience, would transition fairly easily into the presidency. Especially if they had some other related experience, such as an ambassadorship, legislative, cabinet-level position, etc...

From Congress, it's a rougher transition. Managing legislation is nothing like administrating the government, at most, it's one small part of the job. Over time, just by being a part of the overall political machine, congressional people can develop an expansive understanding of the presidential process, even though they'll never get that actual executive experience until they get into office.
 
APF said:
http://members.aol.com/cheyenned/Wasilla.jpg



What is it then, without looking it up?

In contrast, what is the Powell Doctrine? Again without looking it up.

Recite one of Rumsfeld's Rules, same constraint.
Amir0x is running for VP now? What? Was he a mayor of a 5 person town or something? Oh I get it! He can see Japan from his house. Foreign policy expert. Very clever. But can he kill dumb antlered animals? That's the question....that's the question....
 
LegendofJoe said:
Out of curiosity what ad are you talking about?

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Squirrel Killer said:
While there are certainly parts that will have to be learned on the job, I'd disagree with the general sentiment of that comment.

The role of President has some pretty obviously similar executive position; governor, CEO, general, even some mayoral positions (NYC, LA, Chicago, maybe a few others.) A good leader in any of those position, with 5-10 years experience, would transition fairly easily into the presidency. Especially if they had some other related experience, such as an ambassadorship, legislative, cabinet-level position, etc...

From Congress, it's a rougher transition. Managing legislation is nothing like administrating the government, at most, it's one small part of the job. Over time, just by being a part of the overall political machine, congressional people can develop an expansive understanding of the presidential process, even though they'll never get that actual executive experience until they get into office.

Some with the most executive experience were awful presidents, some with the least were fantastic presidents.

There simple truth I was illustrating was that nothing in the world can literally train you for president. Not even being vice president, or governor. The challenges one faces there are distinct from these positions, even if crossover occurs.
 
LegendofJoe said:
Out of curiosity what ad are you talking about?

Yes, please, because if it's that bad, I'll want to hear it too. Trust me though, hearing Biden going on and on about how McCain will just be eight more years of hell (granted, he doesn't account for a loss in the reelection) is simply distasteful. You can agree to disagree, but, in my opinion, that just goes a bit too far. What's that make his supporters then?

EDIT: Thanks. Actually, that was kind of funny. I don't see this dark meaning, or cheap shot. Maybe I'm missing something. I suppose it could be offensive to his family and his person, but really it's nothing different from the typical barrage of advertisements.
 
I missed the original incident, but monitored the discussion and repostings afterward to see what I could learn about what had happened and who was responsible.

There are several misconceptions and errors in most accounts of this story, including your post. Most significantly, the perpetrator(s) were not members of an infamous group of hackers. I donÂ’t blame you for misunderstanding this, because in all the media coverage regarding the war with Scientology the media has completely failed to explain what Anonymous is.

Anonymous is not exactly a group. It is people using the umbrella of a web discussion board for cover to be as offensive, funny, strange, or whatever as they want.

Here’s the short version: there is a site called 4chan.org. It is an image posting site based on a popular Japanese site. The site contains multiple boards, each of which is dedicated to a particular subject. The most notorious of these boards is called /b/. /b/ is the board dedicated to random images. /b/tards, as its denizens are called, are interested only in their own amusement. Their sense of humor runs the gamut from sick to cruel to merely strange. Lolcats, as made famous by http://www.icanhascheezburger.com, originated on /b/. A lot of memes start there. There is a lot of racist humor — pictures of excited and happy black people in proximity to fried chicken abound. There is a lot of pornography. Sometimes it’s child pornography, although posting that is moderator grounds for banning — no, it’s not a pedophile ring; /b/tards post it because they think doing so is funny.

4chan does not log participants. Most people don’t use or have usernames, and post instead as “Anonymous.” And every so often, a number of /b/’s anonymous denizens decide to make somebody’s life hell. Sometimes it’s a random person who offends /b/’s sense of propriety. Sometimes it’s a forum dedicated to a serious topic. Sometimes it’s Scientology. And Tuesday, it was Sarah Palin. Or it would have been.

Sarah PalinÂ’s email account was hacked by one person. Not a group.

This person read her emails, then posted the username and password on /b/. This happened at about 4 in the morning on Tuesday. The idea was that the sea of Anonymous /b/tards would download the emails, upload porn, and cause all manner of mischief. Anonymous is not a group of hackers. Anonymous is more like gremlins. They are hyperactive adolescents in search of amusement and joy, which they often get by upsetting people and making messes. ThatÂ’s what was happening here. Anonymous did not hack the account. A hacker tried to throw Sarah Palin to Anonymous. Not all of Anonymous was having it. One person threw a crowbar in the works. Other /b/tards were displeased to miss a chance at the lulz. The moderators stepped in. The thread was deleted.

Later, other individuals created threads reposting screencaps of emails and the inbox, and put together a collection of these files. All mentions of these were purged by the moderators. So then some bright /b/tards decided to email what little stuff they had to the media.

ThatÂ’s pretty much it.

This afternoon, in a thread that was later deleted, an individual claiming to be the original poster gave his account of what happened. I’ve attached screencaps. Here’s the text. The original poster used the name “rubico.” The linked email address for the poster was rubico10@yahoo.com.

This is what rubico said:

rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:57:22 No.85782652

Hello, /b/ as many of you might already know, last night sarah palin’s yahoo was “hacked” and caps were posted on /b/, i am the lurker who did it, and i would like to tell the story.

In the past couple days news had come to light about palin using a yahoo mail account, it was in news stories and such, a thread was started full of newfags trying to do something that would not get this off the ground, for the next 2 hours the acct was locked from password recovery presumably from all this bullshit spamming.

after the password recovery was reenabled, it took seriously 45 mins on wikipedia and google to find the info, Birthday? 15 seconds on wikipedia, zip code? well she had always been from wasilla, and it only has 2 zip codes (thanks online postal service!)

the second was somewhat harder, the question was “where did you meet your spouse?” did some research, and apparently she had eloped with mister palin after college, if youll look on some of the screenshits that I took and other fellow anon have so graciously put on photobucket you will see the google search for “palin eloped” or some such in one of the tabs.

I found out later though more research that they met at high school, so I did variations of that, high, high school, eventually hit on “Wasilla high” I promptly changed the password to popcorn and took a cold shower…

>> rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:58:04 No.85782727

this is all verifiable if some anal /b/tard wants to think Im a troll, and there isnÂ’t any hard proof to the contrary, but anyone who had followed the thread from the beginning to the 404 will know I probably am not, the picture I posted this topic with is the same one as the original thread.

I read though the emailsÂ… ALL OF THEMÂ… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governorÂ…. And pictures of her family

I then started a topic on /b/, peeps asked for pics or gtfo and I obliged, then it started to get big

Earlier it was just some prank to me, I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be, just like all of you anon out there that you think there was some missed opportunity of glory, well there WAS NOTHING, I read everything, every little blackberry confirmationÂ… all the pictures, and there was nothing, and it finally set in, THIS internet was serious business, yes I was behind a proxy, only one, if this shit ever got to the FBI I was fucked, I panicked, i still wanted the stuff out there but I didnÂ’t know how to rapidshit all that stuff, so I posted the pass on /b/, and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet and just sat there in a comatose state

Then the white knight fucker came along, and did it in for everyone, I trusted /b/ with that email password, I had gotten done what I could do well, then passed the torch , all to be let down by the douchebaggery, good job /b/, this is why we cant have nice things[/i]
The “white knight fucker” was the /b/tard who thought that going through Sarah Palin’s email wasn’t cool. He logged in, changed the password, and sent an email to a friend of Palin’s warning her and letting her know the new password. Unfortunately, he then posted a screenshot of this email to let the other /b/tards know their fun was over. He failed to blank the password, and they all tried to log in and change the password — which tripped the automated Yahoo! freeze. Since then, the account has been deleted. “Rapidshit” refers to rapidshare.com — i.e., rubico wanted to download the emails, put them into one file, and put that file up on rapidshare for /b/tards and the world at large to download. But he panicked, or didn’t know how to download the emails, and so pawned that task off on Anonymous, which he didn’t realize wasn’t monolithic and in his favor.

As Paul Harvey would say, “And now you know…. the rest of the story.”
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LegendofJoe said:
Not at all surprising IMO, and I'd hope most people would have sense enough to see how ridiculous that was.
No doubt some will complain about the terrible invasion of her privacy, but many are the same who also say that we shouldn't be concerned about the government listening in on our phone calls and emails as if we haven't got anything to hide then we shouldn't have anything to be worried about.
 
PARANO1A said:
4chan isn't a site, it's a community. You can't just shut down a community - it's like the FBI will shut down Islam.
No, you can't... but you can send enough of them to prison to make them scatter and disperse of their own volition. Besides, the government's watching them now, and can track the community's movement. If someone's watching them, it's less fun.
 
Enough with the fucking politics in this thread. It's about laughing at someone for using 12345 as their password and about multiple people breaking the law. Sarah Palin included.
 
Meier said:
Enough with the fucking politics in this thread. It's about laughing at someone for using 12345 as their password and about multiple people breaking the law. Sarah Palin included.
It looks like the password recovery questions are what were hacked. A pretty common security hole. Someone could probably hack your bank account using information stored on your facebook profile. The smart thing would be to fill the questions in with other passwords or something random.
 
One of my favorite parts is Republicans calling 4chan a "hacker site".
This afternoon, I mentioned an infamous group of hackers whose Internet bulletin board was the gathering place for those who bragged about and publicized the Sarah Palin private e-mail hacking.

A tech-savvy reader who monitors the hackers’ site e-mailed me a detailed explanation of how it went down, who was responsible, and how someone with a conscience warned a friend of the Palin family of the crime (language warning):
(Rest of the link is a repost of the story posted above.)
 
Basch said:
Yes, please, because if it's that bad, I'll want to hear it too. Trust me though, hearing Biden going on and on about how McCain will just be eight more years of hell (granted, he doesn't account for a loss in the reelection) is simply distasteful. You can agree to disagree, but, in my opinion, that just goes a bit too far. What's that make his supporters then?

The same people the rest of us facepalm.gifed when bush was re-elected 4 years ago.
 
afternoon delight said:
Glad the media is mad at someone hacking her account, not conducting state business on an unauthorized account! Must be for the lulz
From what I understand, using a personal email account isn't against Alaska rules, regulations, or law. The only thing is that such an account would still be subject to transparency laws, in other words, deleting the account is a serious violation.
 
Evlar said:
What do you imagine the Palin doctrine would be?
A reliance on NATO over the UN, vigilance on the side of small democracies, and a preference towards non-military means of intervention in int'l conflict.
 
APF said:
A reliance on NATO over the UN, vigilance on the side of small democracies, and a preference towards non-military means of intervention in int'l conflict.


I can see the NATO and vigilance part...but a preference towards non-military internvention? That is a bit of a stretch.....from the little that she has said on the matter.
 
So... the relevant experience for running for President that you all keep citing is his successful campaign to run for president.

:lol

Sometime when you guys come off the hopium, you should reread yourselves.
 
Arde0 said:
I can see the NATO and vigilance part...but a preference towards non-military internvention? That is a bit of a stretch.....from the little that she has said on the matter.
*shrug* in her Gibson interview she kept on suggesting military action wasn't the first or preferred option. The question itself is a bit of a lark though, given she isn't CIC yet.
 
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