Strider Highwind
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I really feel like this would have been a pretty good game in VR if they couldve pulled it off...specially with watching how some of the puzzles are pulled off
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SCORN – Prologue Gameplay Walkthrough (8 Mins)
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GymWolf
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Not sure if vr already reached this level of graphic fidelity yet.
ClanOfNone
Member
Atmosphere looks amazing, and sometimes that's all it takes. Silent Hill franchise is a perfect example of this. Combat is terrible, and the RE style "puzzles" are crap, but the games nail the atmosphere and it is what makes (most of them) great.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Got to agree. Its perfect for Gamepass, but as a retail offering its not great value and I can see a lot of refund claims on Steam as the ambiguous marketing might leave some to believe its more than a Myst type experience.
I can see a lot of work has gone into the presentation, but honestly even as someone who's had a more than passing interest in Giger and Beksinsky's art, I really have to wonder if that's enough.
Ill take a banger like plagues tale day one on gamepass that i wont have to buy. It doesnt hurt me if its not exclusive and other people get to play it.
GHG
Member
Based on the previews there's a chance that could end up having a similar fate. I will riot if that's the case though, was really fond of the first one.
We have 4090s now, it's possible.
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Feel Like I'm On 42
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I'm very impressed with the visuals on series x
M1987
Member
Good to hear.I don't care about reviews,so I will be playing this when I can pull myself away from souls games,they are so addictive
Buggy Loop
Member
On top of Elder legend’s 10/10 and gamerant’s 1/5 (WTF)
skit_data
Member
On top of Elder legend’s 10/10 and gamerant’s 1/5 (WTF)
Wow, mixed reviews indeed. It’s pretty much all over the place.
Pretty much expected tbh, I’ll definitely check out some impressions here on the forum though because it’s always interesting with games that get so many mixed reviews.
The Cockatrice
Member
Yeah I instantly dismiss any of these ridiculous dumb scores. I've never given in my entire life the lowest or the maximum score to ANY game. Not even my number one game of all time is not perfect nor my hated game of all time doesnt have 1/10. There is no such thing. Ridiculous.
SJRB
Gold Member
On top of Elder legend’s 10/10 and gamerant’s 1/5 (WTF)
Always dismiss outliers.
10/10 and 1/10 are ridiculous scores only given to get rage clicks. With literally hundreds of sites releasing their reviews, it's a way to stand out in the crowd. Pathetic, really.
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Badlucktroll
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it unlocked… wtf am i playing lol
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tommib
Member
Why do people get so troubled by a personal score? Knowing Elder Legend, I totally get why for him it would be a perfect game. There is such a thing as a perfect game for a specific reviewer.
The Cockatrice
Member
Its not personal when its public therefore I can and will always criticize anyone that says x is perfect.
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tommib
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That’s what reviewers do? They make their reviews public? I don’t understand.
Justin9mm
Member
You obviously got no idea what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about gamepass, I'm talking about xbox as a brand not delivering enough good exclusive games. Why do you think there has been the recent acquisitions? What does plagues tale and gamepass have to do with it!
The Cockatrice
Member
I clarified a bit with the edit but what I mean is you and everyone else are entitled to have opinions just like I am, however when you promote your score or you get early free copies from the devs or your public review gets you money, then I will ofc criticize them. To be fair, I do not value any "critic". I think they're all paid shills. Even the good ones are ding it for some form of income, whether its an income from being a more open-speech kind of guy, you are still doing it for the money. Sorry bit of a rant here. Point is, no game is perfect.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
Xbox has an issue with knowing how to pick games to support. Remember, The Medium was there first Next Gen day one game pass game, lol crazy. Phil is clearly doing his best but he needs help in this department.
I’m still going to try this out because it’s in game pass but it seems like another disappointment.
tommib
Member
Sure, that’s your opinion and how you see things - I just don’t think like that at all.
I used to have my own amateur reviewer site back in the day and one of the few games I ever gave a perfect score was the game D, from Kenji Eno. You can quickly do a search and see how divise that game is. It’s basically a FMV puzzle game. To this day, that game is still - for me - perfect. And I wrote about it.
The hard part is writing so that someone understands why that game checks all your boxes. That’s the interesting part of criticism.
You’re looking for objectivity in reviews which just isn’t possible because whatever a critic writes is an impression. I don’t think they’re shills but I can see how they can feel forced to jump on a bandwagon and not to diverge from a general reception.
What changed these days is that we look at scores and don’t really read anything. It used to be the opposite before.
The Cockatrice
Member
Its fine, I get you but to me, if you do not find flaws in things, you're not good at the job you're doing and this honestly applies in everything not just reviews. We are designed as human beings to have flaws thus our creations have flaws as well. Yes, your wife, your mom, your dog, are perfect in your eyes but in my experience if you do not see problems within them, then you become ignorant and ignorance can be damaging. Sorry we're getting a bit philosophical in here but suffice to say, in my opinion, we should always look for flaws.
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Punished Miku
Gold Member
On top of Elder legend’s 10/10 and gamerant’s 1/5 (WTF)
Being devicive means its likely interesting at least.
01011001
Banned
played it for 2h,
if I had to describe it with as few words as possible I would say "Horror-Action-Myth"
it has slight Survival Horror elements, Action Adventure elements, and classic graphics adventure elements like Myth-like games
Survival Horror elements: you die real fast and you have to manage ammo + health items
Action Adventure elements: you upgrade something that's similar to a key card, and have navigate placed with small environmental puzzles
Myth like elements: puzzles that could be straight out of Myth an that influence usually bigger puzzles that lock your progression
so anyone who likey Myth like puzzles, Resi like health+ammo management and slight metroid like elements will be into this for sure.
if I had to describe it with as few words as possible I would say "Horror-Action-Myth"
it has slight Survival Horror elements, Action Adventure elements, and classic graphics adventure elements like Myth-like games
Survival Horror elements: you die real fast and you have to manage ammo + health items
Action Adventure elements: you upgrade something that's similar to a key card, and have navigate placed with small environmental puzzles
Myth like elements: puzzles that could be straight out of Myth an that influence usually bigger puzzles that lock your progression
so anyone who likey Myth like puzzles, Resi like health+ammo management and slight metroid like elements will be into this for sure.
Dirk Benedict
Member
That actually sounds appealing.
remember_spinal
Banned
Gamespot gave it a 4 lol
Like i said, those launch day embargos almost always tell you what you need to know
Like i said, those launch day embargos almost always tell you what you need to know
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Gman liked it. Good enough for me to give it a shot.
MiguelItUp
Member
Sounds more or less like I was expecting. An immersive game sprinkled with puzzles, minor combat, etc. A fairly short and visually intriguing game, sounds good to me. But this is surely divisive AF, clearly.
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
4 hours campaign? Ouch.
Elder Legend
Banned
We gave Elden Ring same score.
They are very different games, stop comparing apples to oranges, its very silly of you. We judge games objectively and not subjectively like what most people do.
Elden Ring does things very well on what it sets out to do and so does Scorn for the type of a game it is.
Hestar69
Member
Not saying a 7 is a bad game(played many 7 games that have been amazing) but this game wasn't going to score well (seems I was right) and seems the puzzles are god awful.A 7 is nothing bad .. you get straight 8 / 9 / 10s
Pedro Motta
Member
Like it's very silly of you to call other reviewers idiots.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Good length for something like this.
Justin9mm
Member
I have GP so will def try it too but I think you're right. Kind of like an actor who keeps picking the shittiest scripts/movies to do lol
semiconscious
Member
um, sorry, but all game judging is subjective. there's no such animal as an 'objective opinion'...
Elder Legend
Banned
On top of Elder legend’s 10/10 and gamerant’s 1/5 (WTF)
Hey listen man, I am exception to the rule. I just really like atmospheric games and I am Abita bias towards a strong art direction. I very clearly stated in my review at the end that his game is absolutely not for everyone and stated the reasons why I personally liked it.
People need to stop just looking at score and then make false judgements. At least read the review itself if you want a thorough explanation.
We gave Elden Ring also a 10/10, Saints Row recieved s 6.5 . It has been a while since I've played a good atmospheric horror game. The game is not broken, playable from start to finish and doesn't have any weird bugs (at least none that I've encountered)
Elder Legend
Banned
That's a hard disagreem a good reviewer will look at the game objectively and review it fairly if they understand its intended design. Because you have to judge the game based on what it's intended design is trying to achieve. Whether the design is good or bad is a different story that's where the review comes in.
It was very obvious that Scorn is a game that strives for good art, immersion and atmosphere and strong audio design to achieve their primary goal which is to immerse the player in this scary universe and it does it extremely well.
If you let a reviewer who hates slow spaced games and doesn't care for atmosphere or immersion of course they will treat it badly.
It's the same thing with Dark Souls. People who hate games without any handholding will hate it. It's disengenous to let someone review a game who doesn't understand the product itself from the get go. But majority of website just care about $$$ so they throw reviews at their so called "contributors" just to churn shit out and make money. They do not give a fuck about honest opinions or transparency.
Reality is that not everyone will like what each and every game does. There are people who hate Last of Us and God of War cause they don't care about games with deep storytelling and good narrative. Does that make them bad games? No.
Is it really hard for people to understand that not every game is for them? If you don't like the game, that doesn't make it bad. It just makes it bad for YOU.
Now what makes a bad game across for everyone is something like Saints Row. Poorly designed from the get go. Horrible cast of characters, repetetive missions and poor world building among other bad qualities.
Objective reviews do exist. I been in this industry since 2013 and have done a lot of work for a variety of publications but now run my own shop
I am 100% positive I know what I am talking than most people here.
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semiconscious
Member
not sure if serious...
Elder Legend
Banned
Oh I wow look you can't even provide a good counter argument. It's ok, because you don't have any. On the ignore list you go where you belong. Too bad, because I don't mind having a civil discuss, but it's obvious you are just here to piss people off and not willing to have an intellectual conversation.
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AeonGaidenRaiden
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Not for $35 it isn't. But of course most people are playing it on gamepass so they "don't mind" since they didn't fork out the cash. Order 1886 got shit on because of that length but I see reviewers again give it a pass because its "free game".
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The Order launched at full price. This is available for $35.99 ~ $39.99. It's not the same case at all, even if you eliminate the game pass factor entirely.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
A bad game is a bad game, but like anything in life if someone didn't pay for it (Game Pass download), then of course it's not as bad, since there's no money lost. Sounds logical to me.
Order 1886 got shit on because it was a full priced game and people expected more from a Sony game. Scorn is a cheaper indie game so expectations are lower.