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[Bo_Hazem]

Well good thing is they can do a system update down the road if they want to allow externals that support speeds needed. My guess is an updated Series X (Series Y?) will either support M.2 or USB ports that support external drives with fast enough read/write.
I am surprised the console didn't ship with USB 4 to allow faster external read/write speeds so external drives could be used, but proprietary cards are a source of profit while taking a loss on consoles....

Not sure if it'll work on Series console as the internal and external one are using different type of NVMe, utilizing only 2x lanes instead of 4x. Not sure if there is an adapter for that, but if there is you can even use PCIe 3.0 at similar speeds or even higher with no problem, making you have access to very cheap options.

Well all I remember is that Cerny said the PS5 itself takes over dealing with the various priority levels, etc.

He said the M.2 drive's controller isn't going to be doing much, instead the PS5 will do it. But that's why they need extra speed to account for that.

Cerny never said the M.2 SSD needs a particular controller or DRAM. Just around 7 GB/s read speed.

Yes, the I/O will mimic those missing priority levels, but not the flash memory. PS5's flash memory though is the one that has 6 priority levels and of course designed to deal with 12-channel design instead of 8 or 4.

It'll be interesting to see if they can overcome this confusing situation.

 

[jroc74]

I went with 8 cores Zen 2 CPU in 2019 when I upgraded from a quad-core 3rd gen i5. Had to go with Gen3 board at the time as the cheaper B550 chipset with Gen4 support wasn't a thing up until now, a bummer.

Yeah, I kept putting off building my PC for a few years and when I was ready (in 2020) I started paying attention to some things. I almost did the exact same thing but with a Ryzen 2600 and a lower tier mobo.

Learned alot in the past few years, and I dont really know that much, lol.

 

[VAVA Mk2]

You sure about the bold? That would mean 6 priority levels as well which is not what I understood from the Mark Cerny. I think it works only with the I/O perks so it need a similar flash controller on the external one.

Not sure if it'll work on Series console as the internal and external one are using different type of NVMe, utilizing only 2x lanes instead of 4x. Not sure if there is an adapter for that, but if there is you can even use PCIe 3.0 at similar speeds or even higher with no problem, making you have access to very cheap options.

Eh maybe later hardware revisions.

 

[GHG]

I agree.

Why is this thread being shitted on and being transformed on how the PS5 SSD works? How is PS5 SSD and Seagate SSD related? What relationship does Sony have with Seagate?

?

They don't need a relationship with seagate for a drive to potentially be compatible. If the drive can work at the required speeds then it will meet the spec requirements. The same goes for any hard drive manufacturer.

Similar discussions have taken place in topics about new Samsung SSD hardware (as an example) so why the upset?

 

[kyliethicc]

Yes, the I/O will mimic those missing priority levels, but not the flash memory. PS5's flash memory though is the one that has 6 priority levels and of course designed to deal with 12-channel design instead of 8 or 4.

It'll be interesting to see if they can overcome this confusing situation.

Its definitely gonna work. It'll be fine. Sony wouldn't have designed it that way if it was an issue.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Its definitely gonna work. It'll be fine. Sony wouldn't have designed it that way if it was an issue.

Then the only challenge now is having an NVMe m.2 SSD that won't throttle drastically in few seconds of streaming.

 

[kyliethicc]

Well good thing is they can do a system update down the road if they want to allow externals that support speeds needed. My guess is an updated Series X (Series Y?) will either support M.2 or USB ports that support external drives with fast enough read/write.
I am surprised the console didn't ship with USB 4 to allow faster external read/write speeds so external drives could be used, but proprietary cards are a source of profit while taking a loss on consoles....

No chance. Xbox will only use their proprietary storage. It has its own dedicated port. They've committed.

And proprietary external storage is simpler & more profitable for Microsoft. They're not gonna support M.2 SSDs, they'd have to redesign the entire console and create a way for users to install an internal drive. They clearly did not like that option when designing Series X.

And I doubt they're ever gonna put fast USB ports on any Xbox. Xbox Series X is still only using USB-A @ 5 Gb/s.

 

[kyliethicc]

Then the only challenge now is having an NVMe m.2 SSD that won't throttle drastically in few seconds of streaming.

I mean for all we know, the PS5 SSD does the same. They're using regular TLC NAND.

 

[Md Ray]

Then the only challenge now is having an NVMe m.2 SSD that won't throttle drastically in few seconds of streaming.

This is probably why it's taking them so long to come out and announce PlayStation-approved M.2 drives.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Would think so. Samsung and Corsair already have PCIe drives with 7,000Mb/s read speeds. Believe that is the speed Cerny highlighted in his tech reveal that would be needed for PS5 storage expansion options.

Unfortunately no PC gaming software to take advantage of it.




Not sure if they will be able to use them compression techniques that the PS5's SSD uses?

 

[jroc74]

Awesome. Be sure to let us know when there's a game that uses it.

This convo has reminded me of this:

Introducing the IBM/Sony/Toshiba Cell Processor ? Part I: the SIMD processing units

IBM, Sony, and Toshiba took the wraps off of their new Cell processor today, …

arstechnica.com

That's a strange comparison considering much of the gaming world is implementing SSD technology advancements, in some fashion, whether it is the various new drives like this Seagate SSD or Microsoft's DirectStorage API or Nvidia's RTX IO tech. So you think these advancements are simply going to be ignored by game developers? Why? As Md Ray pointed out, R&C is already on the way. Hard to imagine devs not taking advantage of these IO speeds.

The comparison to Cell is wild.

....if thats the case.....MS also made a mistake.....and so has Epic....

The funny thing about Cell, it had a redemption story for Sony:

https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/corporatereport/CorporateReport2019_E.pdf

Slide 21

'Moreover, the hard-earned experience from developing the Cell/B.E. at a massive investment cost led to Sonyʼs semiconductor business capturing the worldʼs number one position in imaging applications. Applying the advanced MOS LSI technology acquired in developing the Cell/B.E. to the development of CMOS image sensors helped them achieve their superior position. In terms of human resources, system LSI, network and other engineers rapidly cultivated technological skills while Sony brought together hundreds of highly specialized human resources from outside the company. In 2015, for production bases of the semiconductor business, which had undergone restructuring in 2011, Sony announced a program to strengthen development and production of image sensors. Under the third mid-range plan, announced in 2018, Sony intends to maintain its number one position in imaging and become the global leader in sensing, both in the CMOS image sensor area.'

I do believe this is part of the thing MS and Sony agreed to for using Azure:

Sony and Microsoft to explore strategic partnership - Stories

Companies to collaborate on new cloud-based solutions for gaming experiences and AI solutions TOKYO and REDMOND, Wash. — May 16, 2019 — Sony Corporation (Sony) and Microsoft Corp. (Microsoft) announced on Thursday that the two companies will partner on new innovations to enhance customer...

news.microsoft.com

'As part of the memorandum of understanding, Sony and Microsoft will also explore collaboration in the areas of semiconductors and AI. For semiconductors, this includes potential joint development of new intelligent image sensor solutions. By integrating Sony’s cutting-edge image sensors with Microsoft’s Azure AI technology in a hybrid manner across cloud and edge, as well as solutions that leverage Sony’s semiconductors and Microsoft cloud technology, the companies aim to provide enhanced capabilities for enterprise customers. In terms of AI, the parties will explore incorporation of Microsoft’s advanced AI platform and tools in Sony consumer products, to provide highly intuitive and user-friendly AI experiences.'

 

[IntentionalPun]

Is CDPR the only dev listed? Don’t recognize some of the logo.

edit: Jesus give it a rest with the SSD warz

edit2: how in the hell we end up with cell processor essays? Lol

 

[GHG]

The comparison to Cell is wild.

....if thats the case.....MS also made a mistake.....and so has Epic....

The funny thing about Cell, it had a redemption story for Sony:

https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/corporatereport/CorporateReport2019_E.pdf

Slide 21

'Moreover, the hard-earned experience from developing the Cell/B.E. at a massive investment cost led to Sonyʼs semiconductor business capturing the worldʼs number one position in imaging applications. Applying the advanced MOS LSI technology acquired in developing the Cell/B.E. to the development of CMOS image sensors helped them achieve their superior position. In terms of human resources, system LSI, network and other engineers rapidly cultivated technological skills while Sony brought together hundreds of highly specialized human resources from outside the company. In 2015, for production bases of the semiconductor business, which had undergone restructuring in 2011, Sony announced a program to strengthen development and production of image sensors. Under the third mid-range plan, announced in 2018, Sony intends to maintain its number one position in imaging and become the global leader in sensing, both in the CMOS image sensor area.'

I do believe this is part of the thing MS and Sony agreed to for using Azure:

Sony and Microsoft to explore strategic partnership - Stories

Companies to collaborate on new cloud-based solutions for gaming experiences and AI solutions TOKYO and REDMOND, Wash. — May 16, 2019 — Sony Corporation (Sony) and Microsoft Corp. (Microsoft) announced on Thursday that the two companies will partner on new innovations to enhance customer...

news.microsoft.com

'As part of the memorandum of understanding, Sony and Microsoft will also explore collaboration in the areas of semiconductors and AI. For semiconductors, this includes potential joint development of new intelligent image sensor solutions. By integrating Sony’s cutting-edge image sensors with Microsoft’s Azure AI technology in a hybrid manner across cloud and edge, as well as solutions that leverage Sony’s semiconductors and Microsoft cloud technology, the companies aim to provide enhanced capabilities for enterprise customers. In terms of AI, the parties will explore incorporation of Microsoft’s advanced AI platform and tools in Sony consumer products, to provide highly intuitive and user-friendly AI experiences.'

Don't waste your time trying to have an intelligent discussion with that.

 

[Topher]

Unfortunately no PC gaming software to take advantage of it.




Not sure if they will be able to use them compression techniques that the PS5's SSD uses?

That's the hope for RTX IO. I doubt they will see equivalent performance since they don't have the tight reigns on hardware as a console but at least breaking down some of the bottlenecks will help. I think we are not too far off on the PC gaming front where SSDs will be moving from "recommended" to "minimum" requirements.

Object pop-in and stutter can be reduced, and high-quality textures can be streamed at incredible rates, so even if you’re speeding through a world, everything runs and looks great. In addition, with lossless compression, game download and install sizes can be reduced, allowing gamers to store more games on their SSD while also improving their performance.

Introducing NVIDIA RTX IO: GPU-Accelerated Storage Technology For The Next Generation of Games

Load instantaneously, experience vast worlds with endless views and rich detail, and further improve gameplay by leveraging the power of GeForce RTX 30 Series graphics cards and NVIDIA RTX IO.

www.nvidia.com

 

[VAVA Mk2]

No chance. Xbox will only use their proprietary storage. It has its own dedicated port. They've committed.

And proprietary external storage is simpler & more profitable for Microsoft. They're not gonna support M.2 SSDs, they'd have to redesign the entire console and create a way for users to install an internal drive. They clearly did not like that option when designing Series X.

And I doubt they're ever gonna put fast USB ports on any Xbox. Xbox Series X is still only using USB-A @ 5 Gb/s.

While you are likely right they did revise the 360 and add HDMI ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[kyliethicc]

This is probably why it's taking them so long to come out and announce PlayStation-approved M.2 drives.

I doubt it. My guess is same as the rumors from Bloomberg. They're waiting to add M.2 support because they'll need to increase fan speed and they wanted good press at launch about how quiet the PS5 is. And they want the M.2 drives to fall in price.

They will probably announce some marketing license deal with Seagate or Western Digital or whoever to put a PlayStation logo on some M.2 drive like they did with external HDDs for PS4. But that's a more long term thing, who knows when that'll happen.

 

[Topher]

While you are likely right they did revise the 360 and add HDMI ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah, but they've already made licensing deals with Seagate to support their proprietary expansion design. Changing over to a standard port would effectively undercut that partnership. I imagine Microsoft stuck with proprietary storage for Xbox 360 for similar reasons.

 

[prinz_valium]

Hopefully a 500GB and 2TB Xbox Series expansion card

 

[VAVA Mk2]

Yeah, but they've already made licensing deals with Seagate to support their proprietary expansion design. Changing over to a standard port would effectively undercut that partnership. I imagine Microsoft stuck with proprietary storage for Xbox 360 for similar reasons.

Yeah true. I just hope more options come out along with other vendors to help drive price down and bring more choice. 1 TB isn't enough.

 

[kyliethicc]

Yeah true. I just hope more options come out along with other vendors to help drive price down and bring more choice. 1 TB isn't enough.

Limiting competition, limiting choice, and forcing higher prices is the exact business idea behind proprietary storage.

It is simpler for marketing, and for users to understand. Xbox basically created like old school PS2 memory cards (but its an SSD.)

Sucks cuz its gonna be limited and expensive, but it works from day 1 and is simple to buy & use.

For now, best value on both systems is just use an external HDD. Cheap and high capacity. Not ideal, tho.

 

[VAVA Mk2]

Limiting competition, limiting choice, and forcing higher prices is the exact business idea behind proprietary storage.

It is simpler for marketing, and for users to understand. Xbox basically created like old school PS2 memory cards (but its an SSD.)

Sucks cuz its gonna be limited and expensive, but it works from day 1 and is simple to buy & use.

For now, best value on both systems is just use an external HDD. Cheap and high capacity. Not ideal, tho.

They said over time other hardware partners would be making cards for the port and more sizes. Question is when.

 

[Dream-Knife]

That's a strange comparison considering much of the gaming world is implementing SSD technology advancements, in some fashion, whether it is the various new drives like this Seagate SSD or Microsoft's DirectStorage API or Nvidia's RTX IO tech. So you think these advancements are simply going to be ignored by game developers? Why? As Md Ray pointed out, R&C is already on the way. Hard to imagine devs not taking advantage of these IO speeds.

R&C could be made for the inferior xbox tech.

It will eventually be utilized, but it won't be for years.

Everytime people attempt to predict what the future of game dev is, always turns out to be wrong.

We are in 2005. Crysis hasn't come out yet.

 

[Topher]

R&C could be made for the inferior xbox tech.

It will eventually be utilized, but it won't be for years.

Everytime people attempt to predict what the future of game dev is, always turns out to be wrong.

 

[Kazekage1981]

?

They don't need a relationship with seagate for a drive to potentially be compatible. If the drive can work at the required speeds then it will meet the spec requirements. The same goes for any hard drive manufacturer.

Similar discussions have taken place in topics about new Samsung SSD hardware (as an example) so why the upset?

This entire thread has been shit on with Bo_Hazem taking screenshots of Mark Cernys PS5 reveal and explaining how the PS5 SSD is so awesome. We get it. The topic of the thread is Seagate's SSD's and how it contributes to gaming performance and graphics. Last time I checked Seagate has nothing to do with Sony, but everything to do with PC gaming and Xbox Series X|S. This could be related to the questions that I asked previously when it comes to DirectStorage API and SFS. You are right that they dont need a relationship with Sony, but unless Seagate specifically mentioning their inner workings on a compatible PS5 SSD, then why bring this PS5 internal SSD shit in here?

 

[Bo_Hazem]

This entire thread has been shit on with Bo_Hazem taking screenshots of Mark Cernys PS5 reveal and explaining how the PS5 SSD is so awesome. We get it. The topic of the thread is Seagate's SSD's and how it contributes to gaming performance and graphics. Last time I checked Seagate has nothing to do with Sony, but everything to do with PC gaming and Xbox Series X|S. This could be related to the questions that I asked previously when it comes to DirectStorage API and SFS. You are right that they dont need a relationship with Sony, but unless Seagate specifically mentioning their inner workings on a compatible PS5 SSD, then why bring this PS5 internal SSD shit in here?

And WTF did you add to the thread except bitching and whining? In what way the conversation isn't related to the OP?

You should stop your shit posting and antagonizing others when you're 100% useless here. All your posts here are either insults or uneducated takes, very disposable.

 

[Topher]

Last time I checked Seagate has nothing to do with Sony, but everything to do with PC gaming and Xbox Series X|S.

This has a hell of a lot more to do with PS5 than it does with Xbox Series X|S as this isn’t a Xbox Series X|S compatible drive.

 

[GHG]

This entire thread has been shit on with Bo_Hazem taking screenshots of Mark Cernys PS5 reveal and explaining how the PS5 SSD is so awesome. We get it. The topic of the thread is Seagate's SSD's and how it contributes to gaming performance and graphics. Last time I checked Seagate has nothing to do with Sony, but everything to do with PC gaming and Xbox Series X|S. This could be related to the questions that I asked previously when it comes to DirectStorage API and SFS. You are right that they dont need a relationship with Sony, but unless Seagate specifically mentioning their inner workings on a compatible PS5 SSD, then why bring this PS5 internal SSD shit in here?

Seagate don't need to say "this SSD works with the PS5", that's not how it works. Like any SSD manufacturer they will make a standard PCIe 4.0 SSD for the PC and then Sony will decide if it meets the spec requirements for the PS5.

You're having an unnecessary tantrum about nothing. If you want to discuss potential upcoming Seagate SSD drives for the Xbox Series consoles and PC (the latter of which is actually already being discussed) then you're also free to do so in this thread.

 

[Corndog]

Not sure if you even understand what you just said. Also it's 17GB/s on average up to 22GB/s after decompression, which means 17-22MB/ms which is literally DDR4 single channel speed range.

Don’t spout bull crap please.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Don’t spout bull crap please.

This is what happens when you skip school, lack of comprehension and respect.

 

[JTCx]

This entire thread has been shit on with Bo_Hazem taking screenshots of Mark Cernys PS5 reveal and explaining how the PS5 SSD is so awesome. We get it. The topic of the thread is Seagate's SSD's and how it contributes to gaming performance and graphics. Last time I checked Seagate has nothing to do with Sony, but everything to do with PC gaming and Xbox Series X|S. This could be related to the questions that I asked previously when it comes to DirectStorage API and SFS. You are right that they dont need a relationship with Sony, but unless Seagate specifically mentioning their inner workings on a compatible PS5 SSD, then why bring this PS5 internal SSD shit in here?

Can you cry sum moar?

This has everything to do with Sony as much as PC.

 

[VAVA Mk2]

This is what happens when you skip school, lack of comprehension and respect.

 

[Brofist]

Unfortunately no PC gaming software to take advantage of it.




Not sure if they will be able to use them compression techniques that the PS5's SSD uses?

Nah they won't be able to. Tech only moves forward at the release of a new Sony platform and then stagnates for another 7-10 years barely getting better until the next Playstation system comes out. A $500 box will be the pinnacle of technology for the foreseeable future. /s

 

[sendit]

Nah they won't be able to. Tech only moves forward at the release of a new Sony platform and then stagnates for another 7-10 years barely getting better until the next Playstation system comes out. A $500 box will be the pinnacle of technology for the foreseeable future. /s

Right on. I have this framed on my wall:

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Right on. I have this framed on my wall:

What a legend, full swagger.

 

[longdi]

why a need for this event?

Who the hell does Seagate think they are?

WD, Samsung, Corsair, Sabrent and many many have released the latest PCIE4 storage, maxing out the standards already.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

why a need for this event?

Who the hell does Seagate think they are?

WD, Samsung, Corsair, Sabrent and many many have released the latest PCIE4 storage, maxing out the standards already.

Imagine you're the CEO of Seagate, what do you think this free event via internet, and probably paid by sponsored above that, would benefit the company and products?

 

[DGrayson]

Lets keep the thread on topic. About this drive.

Direct comparisons to PS5 SSD can go in the next gen tech thread or the console war thread.

Thanks,

 

[longdi]

Imagine you're the CEO of Seagate, what do you think this free event via internet, and probably paid by sponsored above that, would benefit the company and products?

useless CEO out of touch with the ground. Probably 1k viewers at best. Waste of effort and time.
I am going to neg the stream if i am still awake to tune in.

 

[Corndog]

This is what happens when you skip school, lack of comprehension and respect.

I have a degree in computer science. Is that enough?

 

[ZywyPL]

No ridiculous heatsink required either:

For a one time benchmark run or continuous full-speed usage? There are many SSD with claimed 5-7Gbps speed out there, but in reality only few are actually able to maintain those speeds for more than 5min. That's why I expect the upcoming Seagate's drive to offer 6-7Gbps speeds but with an actual proper heatsink, something like Corsair MP600. If not then meh, just another show and no go.

 

[Blond]

will it be faster than PS5 superior SSD?

Yeah it honestly might be. We’ve been sitting on fast enough SSDs since November 2020.

 

[GHG]

For a one time benchmark run or continuous full-speed usage? There are many SSD with claimed 5-7Gbps speed out there, but in reality only few are actually able to maintain those speeds for more than 5min. That's why I expect the upcoming Seagate's drive to offer 6-7Gbps speeds but with an actual proper heatsink, something like Corsair MP600. If not then meh, just another show and no go.

Have a look at the laptop benchmarks posted with the new phison e18 controller. Granted, that's from phison themselves so take with a pinch of salt, we will need to wait for some independent benchmarks before it can be 100% verified.

The corsair mp600 uses the old e16 controller that is notorious for heat issues when used continuously.

A lot of people don't realise this but the controller is the first point of failure on these drives in terms of what causes the heat (amd subsequent slow down) issues. The old e16 controller got very hot without heat sinks (there was a comprehensive reddit post that I read last year when I was shopping for a new SSD for my PC build at the time but I can't find it so this will have to do as a reference point for now regarding temperature):

Said NVMe SSD unit reaches 101ºC without the heatsink, in the Phison controller after 30 seconds in a stress test. The most important thing is that after reaching that critical temperature, the performance drops to the beast to 500MB / s. This is because the unit is protected, preventing it from exceeding 100ºC, which could damage the unit.

Las SSD NVMe M.2 Gen4 sin disipador presentarían importantes problemas de rendimiento por temperatura

El disipador es fundamental en las unidades SSD NVMe M.2 Gen4, para evitar que se generen problemas térmicos y que caiga el rendimiento.

hardwaresfera.com

To get a better idea of what you are looking at in terms of the hot spot above use this image of the same drive without the heatsink:

As you can see, the hottest part of the drive is very much the controller.

It's well documented that the old e16 controller was rushed in order to enable manufacturers to have "4.0" SSD's available at the time of AMD's X570 chipset launch but the e16 has major shortcomings as a result:

But the Phison E16 was a bit of a rushed design, with a minimum of changes to their highly successful E12 controller to enable PCIe 4.0 support. That left the E16 with some notable shortcomings: it only offers slightly more peak bandwidth provided by the upgrade to PCIe 4.0, and the extra performance comes with a lot of extra power consumption. The rest of the SSD industry decided to take the PCIe 4.0 transition a bit more slowly, preparing more mature controller designs to be manufactured on smaller process nodes that can provide the efficiency necessary to use the full speed of a PCIe 4.0 x4 link while staying within the thermal and power constraints of a M.2 drive.

The Samsung 980 PRO PCIe 4.0 SSD Review: A Spirit of Hope

www.anandtech.com

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The e16 is 28nm while the e18 is 12nm.

PHISON Electronics Corp. - PS5018-E18

www.phison.com

Phison are making a big deal about highlighting the fact that this hew controller runs cooler:

Less power, lower heat, longer battery life.
Outstanding performance.

The E18 is the only solution on the market to break the 7GB/s barrier for both read and write access with superior power efficiency. Your device stays cool even while running the most blazingly fast applications.

Also a recent preview for the new e18 controller gives us some promising information:

Companies that decide to use this technical blueprint may not choose to bundle their E18 drives with something like this (as they usually aren’t needed). That said, you can certainly buy one if need be. Phison for instance sells an optional heatsink and Corsair has a water-cooled option. The SSD will do just fine within a notebook or external enclosure without the large heatsink though.

Phison PS5018-E18 Controller Hands On

The Phison PS5018-E18 is now paired with new firmware and the latest Micron NAND to deliver a client computing SSD that's very capable.

www.storagereview.com

 

[ZywyPL]

ed with the new phison e18 controller. Granted, that's from phison themselves so take with a pinch of salt, we will need to wait for some independent benchmarks before it can be 100% verified.

The corsair mp600 uses the old e16 controller that is notorious for heat issues when used continuously.

A lot of people don't realise this but the controller is the first point of failure on these drives in terms of what causes the heat (amd subsequent slow down) issues. The old e16 controller got very hot without heat sinks (there was a comprehensive reddit post that I read last year when I was shopping for a new SSD for my PC built at the time but I can't find it so this will have to do as a reference point for now regarding temperature):

Wasn't aware of that, thanks for the read.

 

[Thirty7ven]

No doubt these companies look at PS5 as a promising source of extra revenue and there will be drives labeled as “PS5 compatible”

 

[Kazekage1981]

I am hoping Seagate makes 2TB+ SSD for Xbox Series S|X. 1TB is not enough. Time will tell. Looking forward to the event.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

i think they announce a PS5 version internal SSD.

Yeah, this needs to happen. Too many damn storage issues on PS5.

 

[Topher]

why a need for this event?

Who the hell does Seagate think they are?

WD, Samsung, Corsair, Sabrent and many many have released the latest PCIE4 storage, maxing out the standards already.

Seagate says they are bringing in their "partners" including Razer and CDPR for the event. It does seem a bit odd to hold an "event" for just another drive being released unless there is something more to it.

Thankfully, game companies are not known for overhyping their products.

 

[Excess]

And proprietary external storage is simpler & more profitable for Microsoft. They're not gonna support M.2 SSDs, they'd have to redesign the entire console and create a way for users to install an internal drive.

inb4 someone realizes it's just an custom NVMe with a CFexpress connection in an enclosure, and then creates third-party offerings.

Same thing happened with the 360's storage devices. Anyone remember these? You could buy knock-off ones from China for a third of the price. Eventually, MSFT just decided to start allowing you to upgrade with 2.5 HDD's in the Elite console.

 

[jroc74]

This entire thread has been shit on with Bo_Hazem taking screenshots of Mark Cernys PS5 reveal and explaining how the PS5 SSD is so awesome. We get it. The topic of the thread is Seagate's SSD's and how it contributes to gaming performance and graphics. Last time I checked Seagate has nothing to do with Sony, but everything to do with PC gaming and Xbox Series X|S. This could be related to the questions that I asked previously when it comes to DirectStorage API and SFS. You are right that they dont need a relationship with Sony, but unless Seagate specifically mentioning their inner workings on a compatible PS5 SSD, then why bring this PS5 internal SSD shit in here?

Bo wasnt even the first to bring up the PS5 SSD tho....

And it says Gaming in the OP. Unless PS5 isnt for gaming now?

Seagate has a propriety drive for the Series consoles. Wouldnt off the shelf drives relate more to the PS5? I say relate more because yes you can get a drive and enclosure and use it on Series consoles.

I'm doing that with the PS5 now, NVMe drive and enclosure.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

Lets keep the thread on topic. About this drive.

Direct comparisons to PS5 SSD can go in the next gen tech thread or the console war thread.

Thanks,

We would if you didn't close it.