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Should remakes cost full price?
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Yes. As long as they are of resi 4 dead space quality.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
A lot of remakes are good, Majoras mask 3ds was easier to find than a good n64 original cartridge.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
The only thing I want is that they ensure a port of the original is also sold. I love REmake but I'd rather have OG RE2 on current playforms to play.
If the original is available I give zero shits about remakes. Change it or keep it faithful, do whatever at that stage
If the original is available I give zero shits about remakes. Change it or keep it faithful, do whatever at that stage
LaughingStock
Member
If the game was REMADE, then yes.
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Nintendo dropped a remake for 40 bucks.
kiphalfton
Member
Remakes, yeah
Remasters, hell no. Shouldn't even be any more than $20.
Remasters, hell no. Shouldn't even be any more than $20.
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Trogdor1123
Member
They should cost exactly the amount people are willing to pay for them
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
The lines are getting blurred with terminology to the point that this becomes an answer with an asterisk attached, but...
For "remasters," from basic ports to visual upgrades all the way to gameplay tweaks? I'm thinking like the RE1 port for the DS, or a recent (and better, honestly) example, Crisis Core Reunion, I think a price break is the honorable way to conduct business. I'm Square's case for CCR, the updates made to the Battle system and the exploration QoL improvements with the visual boost could have easily justified a full retail price for me, but it's a very transparent way of communicating with your customers. It feels very "We're not gonna act like you guys are complete idiots and say this is a new product from the ground up, here's a discount," and, despite surely being a business strategy in and of itself, it just *feels* warmer and softer than "Yeah, we modernized performance, now give us sixty bucks, you fucking gullible plebs,"
Conversely, for Remakes more along the lines of the big hitters in recent memory - the RE Remakes, FFVII, etc, I personally feel enough new work and new ideas and new material has been produced to justify a full price retail sale.
Tl;dr: I'm willing to pay more for what was obviously more work for the developers. Slapping a PS1 game on a PS5 with an updated opening movie and menu does not a $60 purchase justify.
For "remasters," from basic ports to visual upgrades all the way to gameplay tweaks? I'm thinking like the RE1 port for the DS, or a recent (and better, honestly) example, Crisis Core Reunion, I think a price break is the honorable way to conduct business. I'm Square's case for CCR, the updates made to the Battle system and the exploration QoL improvements with the visual boost could have easily justified a full retail price for me, but it's a very transparent way of communicating with your customers. It feels very "We're not gonna act like you guys are complete idiots and say this is a new product from the ground up, here's a discount," and, despite surely being a business strategy in and of itself, it just *feels* warmer and softer than "Yeah, we modernized performance, now give us sixty bucks, you fucking gullible plebs,"
Conversely, for Remakes more along the lines of the big hitters in recent memory - the RE Remakes, FFVII, etc, I personally feel enough new work and new ideas and new material has been produced to justify a full price retail sale.
Tl;dr: I'm willing to pay more for what was obviously more work for the developers. Slapping a PS1 game on a PS5 with an updated opening movie and menu does not a $60 purchase justify.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
if it's that good
Captain Toad
Banned
There are many levels of remakes. Some remakes can barely even be called that, as they really completely new games. Resident Evil 2, for example. Those games are re-imaginings more than remakes.
Stuff that is just graphics, maybe not. TLOU Part One felt pricey. But, I would have no issue with Demon's Souls being full price, as the difference was enormous.
Then, FFVII Remake is an outlier because it really isn't a remake or even a reimagining, but a brand new game in the same universe that just happens to tell its story through stuff like time travel and alternate universes.
Stuff that is just graphics, maybe not. TLOU Part One felt pricey. But, I would have no issue with Demon's Souls being full price, as the difference was enormous.
Then, FFVII Remake is an outlier because it really isn't a remake or even a reimagining, but a brand new game in the same universe that just happens to tell its story through stuff like time travel and alternate universes.
jonnyXx
Member
They also dropped numerous Wii U ports and a Wii remaster for 60 bucks.
Iced Arcade
Member
no BUT price amount should depend on the title.
games like deadspace and RE4 shouldn't be tagged budget price as a lot of work goes into them BUT a lot of work is still already done like: story written, design, functions etc
games like deadspace and RE4 shouldn't be tagged budget price as a lot of work goes into them BUT a lot of work is still already done like: story written, design, functions etc
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I think the question is not quite right here, the value of the product should directly depend on the quality and quantity of the work done. We have examples of both very good Remakes and Remasters and very bad ones. In the case when a game is taken, and actually re-assembled by hand from start to finish, everything from models, textures, levels, etc. and this work is done with high quality (As an example - Resident Evil 2,
Metroid Prime or Demon Souls), while new content is also added to the game, then yes, of course, such a Remaster can be worth the full price. But if we look at work like GTA: The Trilogy, or let's say the recently released Tales of Symphonia Remastered, which was clearly created only with the goal of making quick money on famous brands, then of course not.
Metroid Prime or Demon Souls), while new content is also added to the game, then yes, of course, such a Remaster can be worth the full price. But if we look at work like GTA: The Trilogy, or let's say the recently released Tales of Symphonia Remastered, which was clearly created only with the goal of making quick money on famous brands, then of course not.
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Astral Dog
Member
tbf those Wii U games deserved a second chance,3D World even got a nice side game bundled with it
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Captain Toad
Banned
Nintendo released games for $50 on Wii U, then a few years later, released the port on Switch for $60, after the Wii U version was selling for $20.
Gambit2483
Member
Depends. Is it a FF7/RE4/RE2 Remake?
Or a TLOU Part 1 "Remake"?
Or a TLOU Part 1 "Remake"?
ZoukGalaxy
Member
More seriously,
REMAKE: Can understand it for *true* remake (Demon's Souls is a great example), beside TLOU and Dead Space are truely a mascarade and easy money grabber, they should ashamed to ask full price, they are not remake AT ALL, especially TLOU.
REMASTER: no question, should NEVER ask full price.
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Spyxos
Member
Everything that is called a remake, but yes Tlou 1 remake was more than unnecessary and outrageously expensive.
MiguelItUp
Member
I voted yes, because majority of the remakes (at least the ones I've been interested in) have all been worth it IMO.
I say it depends on the content included, assuming extra content, and the time between versions.
So far, I've had absolutely no problem with remake pricing until The Last of Us. Because as much as I love the game... the OG, a remaster, and a remake in less than a decade is ridiculous, lol.
I say it depends on the content included, assuming extra content, and the time between versions.
So far, I've had absolutely no problem with remake pricing until The Last of Us. Because as much as I love the game... the OG, a remaster, and a remake in less than a decade is ridiculous, lol.
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Grizzled Ghost
Member
Of course, if they're putting in the amount of work necessary to make a full game.
Plus, with inflation, RE4 is actually 17 bucks cheaper than it was when I bought it in 2005.
Plus, with inflation, RE4 is actually 17 bucks cheaper than it was when I bought it in 2005.
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Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
If it has significant change then I would say it justifies it.
The "Remake" on the title has different meaning. You see games like RER and RE4R not putting Remake on cover while FFVIIR purposefully put "remake" on title.
This has been said before and actual devs said themselves, FFVIIR is not actual remake.
The "Remake" on the title has different meaning. You see games like RER and RE4R not putting Remake on cover while FFVIIR purposefully put "remake" on title.
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normalguy09x
Member
Nope. I am not paying $70 for a remake of an old game. No way, no how not ever. They would make so much more money if they would price these games on a case by case basis, and not just automatically price them like a brand new AAA game.
Gambit2483
Member
If it has significant change then I would say it justifies it.
This has been said before and actual devs said themselves, FFVIIR is not actual remake.
The "Remake" on the title has different meaning. You see games like RER and RE4R not putting Remake on cover while FFVIIR purposefully put "remake" on title.
Semantics Son.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
vargas117259
Neo Member
yes of course
ShadyAcshuns
Member
This, so much. Hogwarts Legacy was a great game, but I'm full of regrets for spending $80 for it.
Knightime_X
Member
Nintendo also has the worst sales in the gaming industry.
DryvBy
Member
Depends. Capcom really remakes their games while some others remake some aspects. I feel like even how Resident Evil remakes are, they're brand new additions to the series. Dead Space looks really good but it's almost the same game. Story and everything is already done, all they have to do is polish it up.
AlteredForms
Banned
Remakes: Yes
Remasters: No
But the question arises, when is the appropriate to remaster or remake? I've always found it a little funny when developers release an improved version and guilt-trip the original owners to double-dip lol.
Remasters: No
But the question arises, when is the appropriate to remaster or remake? I've always found it a little funny when developers release an improved version and guilt-trip the original owners to double-dip lol.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
Yes.
Remasters... no.
Remasters... no.
NecrosaroIII
Ask me about my terrible takes on Star Trek characters
Pretty much this. Remakes can pretty drastic. For example:
Dragon Quest III (NES)
vs
Dragon Quest III 2D-HD
existensmaximum
Member
If the game is remade from the ground up and in addition is better than all contemporary games.. Yeah?
Mr.Phoenix
Member
This is a very very very very shallow thing to say or way to look at it.
You do realize, that with game development (especially when talking about remakes)... that `polish it up` part you are dismissing, is what takes years to do right?
Even if the game is identical in layout and general content,(eg, TlouP1, DS, Dead space...etc), the bulk of the work... and we are taking years' worth of it, go into remodeling everything, creating new textures, new animations, applying new and modern rendering methods/effects, sound effects/recordings...etc.
That shit takes time... and money.
I don't even consider RE1/2/3 remakes as remakes, I consider them as reboots. Because they are pretty much different in every way from the core games. RE4 is a remake though.
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