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Should remakes cost full price?
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MasterCornholio
Member
Depends on the work that's put into them.
Like RE2 vs RE3 remakes for example.
Like RE2 vs RE3 remakes for example.
cireza
Member
They also removed games (or raised prices) from the Wii U eShop when the Switch version was released. I think it happened for Bayonetta 2 and Donkey Kong.
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BlitzerRadic
Member
So exactly part of the game is "old?" And why should games be penalized for having some old stuff in it?
Because I can think of lots of stuff sold as new that has old stuff in it and no one seems to have a problem with it.
AngelMuffin
Member
Closer to remaster than a remake. Maybe a remaster +.
Spyxos
Member
Not inkjet printer. We have here on every corner like 2 stores that can print it out professionally including framing.
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DevilHunterX0
Member
In a perfect world,
Remaster = $20
Remake = $50
Reboot = $60
New / Sequel = $70
Remaster = $20
Remake = $50
Reboot = $60
New / Sequel = $70
Spyxos
Member
By old I mean that I already own it in the old version. And for me the new remastered version doesn't offer enough differences to the old one at that price.
BlitzerRadic
Member
Why dont you quantify the "old" part because the way you describe it doesnt make sense to me. Lets take RE4 remake. How much of RE4 remake do you already own? Like what percentage?
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Spyxos
Member
I've only played the demo. And I own the original. I'll wait until it's 50% off.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
But they are not old games, though. That’s what I’m pointing out. They’re full ground-up new games using the old only as a basis. They are not the remakes that we used to get with just new graphics or higher resolution, or a redone UI.
Not sure I am understanding the basis being used as the distinction to somehow say they aren’t worth a full-priced game. When they are made with the same amount of time and resources as any other game. It just seems like an arbitrary distinction, for these types of remakes.
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Elder Legend
Banned
Yes, they should. 80% people here have no fucking clue what goes into game development and how difficult and time consuming it is whether it's a remake or a new game/ip/sequel.
Honestly $70 is already a very generous price. I am surprised the publisher aren't charging $80 per game this gen. Which is what they should be doing considering how expensive game dev and marketing is these days.
Honestly $70 is already a very generous price. I am surprised the publisher aren't charging $80 per game this gen. Which is what they should be doing considering how expensive game dev and marketing is these days.
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Spyxos
Member
That's the thing for me they are old games in a new look.
Elder Legend
Banned
It doesn't matter, art assets are extremely expensive in game development, especially of high quality.
I think the issue for some is might be because of updates or fan mods that gaming has since a remake of a movie would just be regular new full price. PC gaming just keeps updating the game so that they can continue selling the game as the hardware gets better but console is usually a one and done fix the bugs and move on to the next game and maybe think about doing something with the game 15 years later.
I'm more of it depends on the remake/game.
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Captain Toad
Banned
Riiiight. Because publishers would totally invest tens or hundreds of millions making these games for the hell of it.
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BlitzerRadic
Member
So you cant actually quantify why RE4 remake should not be full price then?
Spyxos
Member
As I said, these games will never be worth the full price to me. For you they are, for me they are not. I've played Dead Space Remake and pretty much all the other big remakes.
ricardo_sousa11
Member
If its worth it, then yes, if its a skin grab then no
But u a grown up, u should make ur own decisions
But u a grown up, u should make ur own decisions
killatopak
Member
Yes. Quality has a price. If the quality isn’t up to par, simply don‘t buy it until it is on sale on a price you can afford.
BlitzerRadic
Member
If thats how you feel then why you even make this thread?
Spyxos
Member
What do you mean? I asked if they should be full price or not? And I also voted no. Where is the problem?
Teletraan1
Banned
I don't know if they should. I don't have enough data to support whatever they are doing. I only know I don't buy them at full price. I don't actually buy much at full price.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
Yeah. It's like how sometimes you have a French film that was remade by Hollywood in English. Does it mean the remake is somehow LESS than the original French production?
Originality is nice, but adaptations are not bad. And many of the remakes are entirely rebuilt and don't even carry the same code in it anymore.
The Cockatrice
Member
remakes/remasters no matter how good should not cost full price. Original and new games only should. Im glad we got RE4R and Dead Space R but if you think about it, we played these before or at least some of us did, I'd rather get some new and exciting stories.
AncientOrigin
Member
Remaster No
Remake Yes
A remake is a new game.And many deserve every penny like Demons Souls or Resi 4
Remake Yes
A remake is a new game.And many deserve every penny like Demons Souls or Resi 4
BootsLoader
Banned
Yes because remakes are often “a childhood dream becoming true” situation.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Exactly! You said it better than I ever could
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
That’s the whole problem I think with this discussion. Is they are so much more than just remakes, that I think using the word remake doesn’t illustrate what they are/ the work done on them. People see it’s a “remake” and they make their judgements that it’s not really a new game, so as “remakes” like this become more common, I think we need to find a new word. “Full Reimagining”? Something like that, maybe?
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Ff7, dead space, re4,re2 should be $60. Not $70 because they are clearly last Gen games.
Tlou part 1, and demon souls should be $40 like sotc was last Gen. A simple asset flip with very minor gameplay changes. If the level design is being redone, if the bosses are being redone, if the combat is being changed then yes charge full price.
Tlou part 1, and demon souls should be $40 like sotc was last Gen. A simple asset flip with very minor gameplay changes. If the level design is being redone, if the bosses are being redone, if the combat is being changed then yes charge full price.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
They should cost whatever people are willing to pay for them. RE4R is $60 and I'm willing to pay that simply because I love the original game. If they think it would sell at $100, they should sell it as such, but I wouldn't pay that much for it.
And stop going after those who say "it's not worth it" because what you think holds value, others might not. Nothing wrong with that either.
And stop going after those who say "it's not worth it" because what you think holds value, others might not. Nothing wrong with that either.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Saying RE4 and TLOU are Remakes of the same quality is just wrong.
Laptop1991
Member
Depend's on the remake, if it has everything the original game had and more and looks better then yeah, but if it has just better graphics and leaves mechanics out like the trains and trams with Mafia or no mp3 player like the GTA DEF Edition's then no.
Neff
Member
Pretty much. They've changed almost nothing outside of the visuals and that's not enough of an incentive for me to double dip on a game I've beaten several times.
Dead Space makes some worthwhile changes to add flavour and surprises, but it's still basically the same game all said and done.
RE4 pays respects to the original, and retains a few familiar rooms for nostalgic purposes, but otherwise it's legitimately a brand new game and I happily would have paid twice what I did for it. In fact it stands alongside REmake as a definitive blueprint for reworking a classic.
SCB3
Member
I'm not saying that, but they are both full remakes, granted TLoU Part 1 was or seems like a minor remake at best but it still was
You can of course make the argument that RE4R is a reimagining of course
daffyduck
Member
If they remade MG1... But that would have to be a true remake, in the fashion of the Solid series..
Elektro Demon
Banned
Remake yes, but a remaster no.
Captain Toad
Banned
OP and people asking similar questions - you're asking the wrong question.
The question should be, "Should I get a better job and stop being so cheap?"
The question should be, "Should I get a better job and stop being so cheap?"
Spyxos
Member
Not everyone likes to spend money unnecessarily.
NightmareFarm
Member
Remakes of games younger than a decade should be $20 at most. Older should be $40 if it's just a 1:1 remake with better graphics and a few tweaks, $60 if it's an actual remake which overhauls a lot of stuff(like FF7R).
Gambit2483
Member
Too specific...and you're dreaming if you think anyone's selling anything for less than $40 anymore. But yeah, in a perfect world maybe..
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