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Silent Hill HD Collection |OT| Programmed in Smoke Signals
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Since you answered that, can you at least lie to me and say there will be an amazing HD port of SM to Wii U?
I love SM.
Broder Salsa
Banned
Then go back to the damn OT. Acronyms with silent hill games are kind of bad, silent hill DP just doesn't sound right either.
Roland Stiles
Member
There will also be threats in the "normal" world, remixed dynamic otherworld transitions, and death will have consequences (whatever that means).
EDIT: and Harry will have an iPad instead of cellphone. But the game still won't pause when you play Angry Birds.
AzureSkies
Member
On an unrelated note, for someone who's interested in the concept of Silent Hill: Shattered Memories. Would it be worth picking up a copy on Amazon and emulating it with PCSX2 or buying the PSP version if I can't get the Wii version?
I absolutely love the concept behind the game, it's just that I don't own a Wii so I've been put off a bit from playing the game.
I absolutely love the concept behind the game, it's just that I don't own a Wii so I've been put off a bit from playing the game.
I liked the Wii version of Shattered Memories (so sharp, and the wii motions added a nice aspect to the puzzles) but it would have been much better if the enemies were just a little more creepy looking/they appeared in more than just chase sequences.
Thats the main problem I have with SM and DP, neither have odd/creepy looking monsters, or at least not on the same level as 2-4.
Or a patch that fixes the game they just put out?
So cruel.
Well I did ask for it after all. Not a fan of Downpour and I doubt I will be into the Vita game but I will at least look into it when more media comes out.
Don't know, I can't imagine playing it with out the Wii, it really seemed best geared towards that system. I would go PS2 between it and PSP though.
If you can...i'd play the Wii version. It just seems like you'd miss out on so much (game has the best flashlight ever) without the wiimote (speak noises too).
As long as I can bash enemies with said Ipad.
EDIT:
This is what I meant by the thickness of the fog really driving the atmosphere home -
I know what it is since i've played the game already, but people just getting into the series would have a WTF face for a few seconds. You cant make out what you are seeing, but you just know its going to be...unpleasant.
And of course the whole run down/slightly abandoned town feel.
Also those talking about using PCSX2, the only thing that sucks is that the FMVs are busted for SH2.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
If you can't get the Wii version, go for the PS2 version. Only reason I bought the PSP version was because the PAL PS2 version is hard to find, and I wanted to have all main series SH games.
BTW, Tomm, have you played Soundless Mountain 2?
Typographenia
Member
It's 23 flavors of scary!
Roland Stiles
Member
We're making progress here people. Together we can make SM work.
"Hulett and GAF collaborate for SH1 Reimagagain!"
EDIT: I started Soundless Mountain once but something distracted me.
Typographenia
Member
You just use the warmer spot on the back to melt through the ice on the environment. Sorry. : (
I'll start mocking up the t-shirts designs, now.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Instead of Angry Birds, you'll be able to play Raging Robbies on Harry's iPad.
What kind of crazy tech did Konami use to get the FMVs to run at 60fps? Its just so...strange looking. Amazing looking, but still strange. Gave me the impression that next gen SH titles would look like that back in the day.
Actually I bet that ends up becoming a real game at some point.
lol that would be some MGS1 look on the inside of the case level stuff.
Oh and yeah when running SH3 on PCSX2, the self shadows are kinda messed up at times.
Actually I bet that ends up becoming a real game at some point.
lol that would be some MGS1 look on the inside of the case level stuff.
Oh and yeah when running SH3 on PCSX2, the self shadows are kinda messed up at times.
FairXchange
Member
No but seriously, what does Konami plan to do about the patch for PS3? I don't care that they released 200mb of data and called it a day, it didn't fix the game I purchased and it still isn't up to par technically.
I don't want effects added in, I just want the framerate to stop nosediving, making the game go slow motion, or cause skipping and stuttering.
Call technical support? What jewel of wisdom are they going to offer me? Change my PS3? This is nonsense. This is particularly upsetting because SH is my favourite franchise and I'm not big on throwing money away on a product that doesn't work as intended.
I don't want effects added in, I just want the framerate to stop nosediving, making the game go slow motion, or cause skipping and stuttering.
Call technical support? What jewel of wisdom are they going to offer me? Change my PS3? This is nonsense. This is particularly upsetting because SH is my favourite franchise and I'm not big on throwing money away on a product that doesn't work as intended.
Nemesis_
Member
This seems like a ridiculous omission and I have to wonder what the development team were thinking. At least if it was an oversight they didn't purposely do it, but why on earth would you willingly remove this. The outcome, regardless of how it came about, is incredibly shitty. And we haven't even got a response so we will never know why either I am willing to wager.
I'm going to guess it's because they're interlaced. I believe the cutscenes in games like Tales of Destiny DC are 60fps too. Looks really freaking good.
edit: I gotta say I was expecting the ports to terrible, but a disaster like this is pretty unprecedented. That's what you get for handing a job for seasoned professionals off to a bunch of newbies with no console experience I guess.
I'd like to know what the 200MB was actually supposed to fix/contain.
Roland Stiles
Member
THe PS3 patch is supposed to bring the game to the same performance level as XBox. The easiest way to confirm should be VO synching to lip flaps.
If you look at the Kotaku vid from a few weeks back, you can tell the James/Angela scene in the graveyard is out of synch by a second or so.
Can anybody playing on patched PS3 tell me if that scene is synched now or not? I'm really concerned by the "patch, it does nothing" reports but I want to understand if it actually didn't do anything, or if it just didn't magically fix every issue.
If you look at the Kotaku vid from a few weeks back, you can tell the James/Angela scene in the graveyard is out of synch by a second or so.
Can anybody playing on patched PS3 tell me if that scene is synched now or not? I'm really concerned by the "patch, it does nothing" reports but I want to understand if it actually didn't do anything, or if it just didn't magically fix every issue.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Oh what the fuck? I was looking at this website: http://phoenixsoft-mobile.com/projects.htm The website is Phoenixsoft but apparently that is Hijinx's old name. They obviously haven't updated it in a while.
Their work on consoles includes: Karaoke Revolution Glee: Volume 3, Vandal Hearts: Flames of Judgment, and Frogger Returns. That's all I can find. So obviously they had connections with Konami.
Not what you were asking but,
I was just playing Silent Hill 3 HD and the scene with Heather and Douglas where he talks about his son was completely out of sync. (with the patch)
I don't even know why the issue is revolving around 4 words changed.
He has the approval of Blaustein, so really, whether you interpreted the story in one way or the other, that's not controversial at all.
Personally i was going to buy it 100%, because the PC versions are impossible to find and the Ps2 versions look like shit on the LCD, and the reason i am NOT buying it as of now are:
- shit framerate, stuttering and various bugs (at least on the ps3 version, which is the only one i can get).
- a lot of sound bugs.
- weird ground retexturing in SH2 and 3(if this is somehow for the new aspect ratio, i would've liked better old textures but in 4:3, although you can hack the widescreen on PC).
- horrible absence of fog, on both SH2 and SH3 (this is probably the worst offender) that in the case of SH2 shows a lot of weird background details that were obviously meant to be hidden.
- color alteration in SH3, plus missing effects.
- Only new voices on SH3.
The censored scene in SH2 has been debunked, so i crossed that one off.
Anyway, out of all those, the 4 words changed are the least offender, because they had the specific approval of whom those dialogues wrote/translate.
Someone may argue that i should try it for myself, but i'm not willing to blindly buy and hoping for the best.
If anyone wants to provide material to counter some of these points, i'd be more than happy to listen because in the end, i don't complain for fun, although i am "a random someone on the internet" behind the screen and the keyboard i am a Silent Hill fan and i want to play the damn games, period.
And i'm not here to point fingers and call shit on whoever, but so far this HD collection is not looking good, whoever is to blame is not in my interest and i'm seriously sorry if you're getting unwarranted heat, Tomm.
What i know is that as of now, Konami doesn't have a good image, especially considering its glorious past, it's basically a joke.
She should probably held in higher regard those few brands that are left to connect her with good thoughts.
On the bright side, i'm looking forward to get Downpour.
EDIT: Well fuck, you guys went on while i was writing.
He has the approval of Blaustein, so really, whether you interpreted the story in one way or the other, that's not controversial at all.
Personally i was going to buy it 100%, because the PC versions are impossible to find and the Ps2 versions look like shit on the LCD, and the reason i am NOT buying it as of now are:
- shit framerate, stuttering and various bugs (at least on the ps3 version, which is the only one i can get).
- a lot of sound bugs.
- weird ground retexturing in SH2 and 3(if this is somehow for the new aspect ratio, i would've liked better old textures but in 4:3, although you can hack the widescreen on PC).
- horrible absence of fog, on both SH2 and SH3 (this is probably the worst offender) that in the case of SH2 shows a lot of weird background details that were obviously meant to be hidden.
- color alteration in SH3, plus missing effects.
- Only new voices on SH3.
The censored scene in SH2 has been debunked, so i crossed that one off.
Anyway, out of all those, the 4 words changed are the least offender, because they had the specific approval of whom those dialogues wrote/translate.
Someone may argue that i should try it for myself, but i'm not willing to blindly buy and hoping for the best.
If anyone wants to provide material to counter some of these points, i'd be more than happy to listen because in the end, i don't complain for fun, although i am "a random someone on the internet" behind the screen and the keyboard i am a Silent Hill fan and i want to play the damn games, period.
And i'm not here to point fingers and call shit on whoever, but so far this HD collection is not looking good, whoever is to blame is not in my interest and i'm seriously sorry if you're getting unwarranted heat, Tomm.
What i know is that as of now, Konami doesn't have a good image, especially considering its glorious past, it's basically a joke.
She should probably held in higher regard those few brands that are left to connect her with good thoughts.
On the bright side, i'm looking forward to get Downpour.
EDIT: Well fuck, you guys went on while i was writing.
ROFL, I figured this would look bad: (late game location spoilers) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTZeeVJYS98#t=30s
Holy crap at that water...
Original for comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhSz59KL5rI#t=6m30s
Row row row your boat, gently over the edge of the world!
Holy crap at that water...
Original for comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhSz59KL5rI#t=6m30s
Mr. Enigma
Member
Might want to check that first link again...
Fixed. Stupid clipboard.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Jesus. Didn't they bug test this thing at all? No fog? wtf?
Mr. Enigma
Member
I'm not going to complain about watching that hilarious Mega64 video again. :lol
And yeah, the water in the boat ride part looked beyond horrible. It looked like he was on top of a wavy black and white blanket. Looks even worse now that I see the original version again.
Dreadful shit.
I think they made the contrast on the water texture stronger so you could see it through the fog. Without the fog it looks horribad. It actually looks fine in the original.
"but the tank-like movement will probably make them feel archaic to players who didnt play them a decade ago."
Sounds like this reviewer doesn't know about the superior control option...
I've never played with the other control option, whats makes it so different?
lol you've missed out. Default controls are tank controls. Alternate controls are free 2D movement.
toddhunter
Member
Lol awesome
WickedLaharl
Member
At the hospital now on 360. The difference in performance is crazy. I'm not entirety positive but I think the framerate on 360 is capped @ 30FPS while on PS3 it's uncorked and varies wildly because of it.
Other then a few minor glitches I've been having a great time. Now if only the game was patched to make it less dark i'd be quite the happy camper.
Other then a few minor glitches I've been having a great time. Now if only the game was patched to make it less dark i'd be quite the happy camper.
Gokurakumaru
Banned
Dear God, that is awful. F@ck this game, seriously.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Maybe we should stop posting upres-ed PC pics already guys for comparison. It's kinda getting annoying and we get it that the PS3/360 version looks inferior.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Ninja Kn1ght
Member
Mother of God.
RadioHeadAche
Member
They did. Actually, I've noticed quite a bit of dialogue in Silent Hill 3 that doesn't match up with the subtitles/original script.
Also, that 300mb patch seemingly did nothing. There's still a lot of slowdown and I noticed some really bad synching issues during some cutscenes towards the end of Silent Hill 3.
And yet the collection was originally announced for the PS3 only.
L O L
What's up with the music when James meets Laura? It sounds like it's been reworked, for the worse. Has this happened to other pieces of music in the game?
Yepp. When James is reading the letter in the intro. The music is changed there to some electric guitar.
Seems only to be when you use the new voices though.
RadioHeadAche
Member
I can't speak for Silent Hill 2, but SH3 has some really bad synch issues particularly with the "They look like monsters to you?" cutscene and the pre-final boss cutscenes. Those two have some of the worst synching issues I've seen since I started playing.
This is with the patch, by the way.
Napalm_Frank
Member
I may be wrong but aint music changed only when 5.1 sound is enabled. If disabled the music is unchanged even when new voices are selected.
Konami looked for someone cheap?
RadioHeadAche
Member
**Silent Hill 3 ending spoilers**
Did anyone else notice Douglas with a huge blood stain on him in the normal ending? It looked like he was stabbed as in the alternate ending, but he was just chilling on that bench under the stars.
Backfoggen
Banned
What the fuck were they thinking putting this garbage out? That water reminds me of the cool gradient backgrounds that were popular on 90s internet pages.
Steiner_Zi
Member
What a dissapointment this thread is... Thank god I didn't pre-order this.